Scania 140 / 141

Thanks Dave
I spent 3 hours at that yesterday, the laptop nearly went through the window
I nearly deleted the lot but thought them too interesting to not show.

regards Keith

dessert driver:
Thanks Dave
I spent 3 hours at that yesterday, the laptop nearly went through the window
I nearly deleted the lot but thought them too interesting to not show.

regards Keith

Just resize them to 800X600 Keith, that’s what I do, and if you want to turn one, do it before you upload it to post.
It took me a long time to suss it out.
Cheers Dave.

Hey, to keep up a bit the 140/141 page :slight_smile: here some more.

A colleague of me, never restored and still in this condition.

Eric,

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Is this 140 around now please

robert1952:
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Hey Robert, nice, and the two trailers, wide spread ■■

Eric,

@ rward and
@ Eric

No idea. I found the image on a foreign site and put it aside until I rediscovered the 140/141 thread and thought it might be a good place to dump it!! It may well have been taken in
Greece or Turkey years ago for all I know. Sorry! Robert

Shrink those oversize pics please- the page is twice size of my monitor LOL.

Here’s some insight into the LT140 issue:
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1500
The Dutch ones seem to have been supplied as prototypes.
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1515
The Pat Kennett one seems to have been a factory test vehicle.

[zb]
anorak:
Shrink those oversize pics please- the page is twice size of my monitor LOL.

Here’s some insight into the LT140 issue:
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1500
The Dutch ones seem to have been supplied as prototypes.
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1515
The Pat Kennett one seems to have been a factory test vehicle.

Hey Anorak,

Never seen an LT140, here we had only 145/146.
when was it built, not from '72 on ■■? 73 or’74, or specially built ■■?

Eric,

tiptop495:

[zb]
anorak:
Shrink those oversize pics please- the page is twice size of my monitor LOL.

Here’s some insight into the LT140 issue:
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1500
The Dutch ones seem to have been supplied as prototypes.
berglitruckstop.no/viewtopic … start=1515
The Pat Kennett one seems to have been a factory test vehicle.

Hey Anorak,

Never seen an LT140, here we had only 145/146.
when was it built, not from '72 on ■■? 73 or’74, or specially built ■■?

Eric,

There was not one in the catalogue, but they did exist, as the photographs on Berglitruckstop show. That site explains it quite well, although I’m intrigued that one of the posters says, “Another LT140.” I did not bother to look all through the thread. I don’t know why Scania did not build them from the start- there was, after all, an LBT140 and an LT110.

French LB 140:

Hi All
I’m a bit late finding this great thread, hope people will find more to add. There’s a couple of pics in here of 141s I remember seeing, the first being the Ian cox tpt. I used to see one parked up at weekends in a pub car park called the railway in buntingford. Don’t know who drove it though. The other pic of murdochs 141 is the sister to a 111 once owned by my mates family’s livestock and bulk haulage company.

There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

V8Lenny:
There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

Factory spec in UK. We don’t hang about.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

V8Lenny:
There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

hey V8,The fastest on a 140 was 4.71 and for an 141 3.88.
Speed depends a bit of tyre size (not mutch but).
Those diffs with hub reduction were the 3.44 and 3.88 so with hub reduction about 480and 5.70.
The 3.88 was used in the 141 and first 142’s, but the very last 141’s and the 142 was available with the 3.44 but only with low profile tyres. Which gave speeds of 90 kph at about
1650/1700 revs. But at that time some changed tyre to the biggest size 1200/20 and 13/22.5 which gave 90 kph at around 1500 revs.
So @2000 revs it gave 120 kph and @2500 about 150 kph, but keep in mind that this are only theoretic speeds and not what you really drive, which can be up to about 7 kph less.
But that was not a very good choise with only 10 speeds, first as slow it is can Always keep up, but in the high range. And if it is windy fully loaded and you have to drive in 9th that’s
a step backwards.

Eric,

tiptop495:

V8Lenny:
There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

hey V8,The fastest on a 140 was 4.71 and for an 141 3.88.
Speed depends a bit of tyre size (not mutch but).
Those diffs with hub reduction were the 3.44 and 3.88 so with hub reduction about 480and 5.70.
The 3.88 was used in the 141 and first 142’s, but the very last 141’s and the 142 was available with the 3.44 but only with low profile tyres. Which gave speeds of 90 kph at about
1650/1700 revs. But at that time some changed tyre to the biggest size 1200/20 and 13/22.5 which gave 90 kph at around 1500 revs.
So @2000 revs it gave 120 kph and @2500 about 150 kph, but keep in mind that this are only theoretic speeds and not what you really drive, which can be up to about 7 kph less.
But that was not a very good choise with only 10 speeds, first as slow it is can Always keep up, but in the high range. And if it is windy fully loaded and you have to drive in 9th that’s
a step backwards.

Eric,

Yes 1 series had faster gearing but this trick was for 140 that always had hub reduction, at least those sold in Finland. I think hub reduction axle had thinner half shafts so I dont know how easy they were to break when converted to direct drive hub ?

One driver said they shifted from 10th to 9th when speed dropped to under 140 km/h… Governor was set to over 3500 rpm, those old V8s liked to rev.

V8Lenny:

tiptop495:

V8Lenny:
There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

hey V8,The fastest on a 140 was 4.71 and for an 141 3.88.
Speed depends a bit of tyre size (not mutch but).
Those diffs with hub reduction were the 3.44 and 3.88 so with hub reduction about 480and 5.70.
The 3.88 was used in the 141 and first 142’s, but the very last 141’s and the 142 was available with the 3.44 but only with low profile tyres. Which gave speeds of 90 kph at about
1650/1700 revs. But at that time some changed tyre to the biggest size 1200/20 and 13/22.5 which gave 90 kph at around 1500 revs.
So @2000 revs it gave 120 kph and @2500 about 150 kph, but keep in mind that this are only theoretic speeds and not what you really drive, which can be up to about 7 kph less.
But that was not a very good choise with only 10 speeds, first as slow it is can Always keep up, but in the high range. And if it is windy fully loaded and you have to drive in 9th that’s
a step backwards.

Eric,

Yes 1 series had faster gearing but this trick was for 140 that always had hub reduction, at least those sold in Finland. I think hub reduction axle had thinner half shafts so I dont know how easy they were to break when converted to direct drive hub ?

One driver said they shifted from 10th to 9th when speed dropped to under 140 km/h… Governor was set to over 3500 rpm, those old V8s liked to rev.

Hey V8, I only speak about Benelux and French Scania’s, are you sur that the fuel pump could keep up with revs above 3000 ■■ Normally the springs begin to float, but think
fuel pumps were different as here, because our engines are built in Holland and not in Sweden.
Our 140’s 2 axles and 6x2 had all the driveline of the 110/76 G672 splitter and R751 and no hubs, which was a very weak point with about 80hp more, even in motorway work.

Eric,

tiptop495:

V8Lenny:

tiptop495:

V8Lenny:
There was some talk in finnish Facebook-group about converting old 0/1-series hub reduction axle to direct drive axle by removing hub reduction and fitting a hub from some Scania 6x4 axle. That way you went from about 2000 rpm at 80 km/h to about 1450 rpm/80 km/h, and if engine rpm was raised to 3000 or more you got 160+ km/h topspeed…

Was that very popular in UK ? In Finland I know many that did it.

hey V8,The fastest on a 140 was 4.71 and for an 141 3.88.
Speed depends a bit of tyre size (not mutch but).
Those diffs with hub reduction were the 3.44 and 3.88 so with hub reduction about 480and 5.70.
The 3.88 was used in the 141 and first 142’s, but the very last 141’s and the 142 was available with the 3.44 but only with low profile tyres. Which gave speeds of 90 kph at about
1650/1700 revs. But at that time some changed tyre to the biggest size 1200/20 and 13/22.5 which gave 90 kph at around 1500 revs.
So @2000 revs it gave 120 kph and @2500 about 150 kph, but keep in mind that this are only theoretic speeds and not what you really drive, which can be up to about 7 kph less.
But that was not a very good choise with only 10 speeds, first as slow it is can Always keep up, but in the high range. And if it is windy fully loaded and you have to drive in 9th that’s
a step backwards.

Eric,

Yes 1 series had faster gearing but this trick was for 140 that always had hub reduction, at least those sold in Finland. I think hub reduction axle had thinner half shafts so I dont know how easy they were to break when converted to direct drive hub ?

One driver said they shifted from 10th to 9th when speed dropped to under 140 km/h… Governor was set to over 3500 rpm, those old V8s liked to rev.

Hey V8, I only speak about Benelux and French Scania’s, are you sur that the fuel pump could keep up with revs above 3000 ■■ Normally the springs begin to float, but think
fuel pumps were different as here, because our engines are built in Holland and not in Sweden.
Our 140’s 2 axles and 6x2 had all the driveline of the 110/76 G672 splitter and R751 and no hubs, which was a very weak point with about 80hp more, even in motorway work.

Eric,

yes no problem, I’ve done 3400 rpm, I heard waterpump doesnt like over 3500, impeller starts to spin on the shaft.

I dont think there were much difference between engines made for different countries ? At least hp and torque specs were the same.


just like them

LBS 140 in Norway.