FRENCH BORDERS CLOSED, STATE OF EMERGENCY

Carryfast:

Bking:
Times it by a thousand and they just might get the idea of what has been like to live in Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya or Syria for the past ten or fifteen years due to the French governments meddling in sovereign states affairs that were none of their business.

You sow the wind and eventually you reap the whirlwind.
And the same goes for the UK.Do you seriously expect no pay back for the mountain of misery we have inflicted on these countries for years?
Compare 129 dead to the millions that have been massacred by “allied” bombings,invasions and sanctions?

How stupid are the people of Europe?
And the real gem is that we call our selves the “victims”
In Iraq and Afghanistan alone you are talking over 2 million deaths.
If it was your family would you not crave revenge?
And what will be the answer to this atrocity?
More murder,war and killing.
As with the IRA the only answer is to talk and negotiate.
It is not the politicians who do the dying its your kids,wives and friends.

If you really think that there’s any connection between the aims of even the Provisional IRA,as opposed to those of Jihad,you’re as dangerously deluded as the Socialist zbwits like Corbyn.

In ‘this case’ we’re dealing with something similar to ■■■■ Germany but then you say that never happened either.Which in ‘this case’ is using tactics of infiltration and guerrilla warfare not all out war.

In ‘this case’ the way to deal with that would be to repatriate or liquidate all of the potential infiltration problem that exists within our own borders and stop any more getting in.

Then don’t differentiate between irregular action or all out war by the ‘Jihadist’s’ home state against us assuming they then still don’t get the message.Bearing in mind the numbers in question the answer to that obviously not being a few ‘boots on the ground’ or limited conventional bombing,being that unfortunately winning all out war always means having to kill more of the enemy,both combatants and civilians,than they kill of us.

On that note the question of all out war between the west/Israel v the major Islamic states like Saudi and Iran etc is probably more a question of when not if and hopefully before the Arabs and Iranians etc get access to nukes.Although having said that we’re probably already facing the prospect of the Islamic nuke bomb attack in the form of Pakistan.In which case the question is who helped them to develop that capability and why. :unamused: :bulb:

Jihad,revenge,freedom all the same word.People fight against oppression,we have no right to impose our ideas of “democracy” on anyone.who the ■■■■ do we think you are.
And what do we call “democracy”.The same bunch of middle class pricks,no matter what political colour,dictating their “brave new world” to us the “underclass” who vote once every 5 years. We vote for the same piece of crap no matter where you put your X.
The whole system is corrupt.

Hungarian anti-terrorist police have said they detained four people last week heading to the capital with explosives in their car and found a bomb-making laboratory.

Security has been tightened for senior officials entitled to “top protection”, the Counter Terrorism Centre said in a statement. Its director general, Janos Hajdu, said the suspects were detained last week as police stepped up investigations that touched on the security of the officials, whom he declined to name.

After the suspects in the car were detained a house search revealed a bomb-making laboratory with “explosives and devices that were suitable for killing people to the utmost extent”, Hajdu told the state television channel M1.

He said police also caught two other people with submachine guns, ammunition and silencers in their car, and that it was not clear whether the two groups were connected.

theguardian.com/world/2015/n … explosives

Bking:
Jihad,revenge,freedom all the same word.People fight against oppression,we have no right to impose our ideas of “democracy” on anyone.who the [zb] do we think you are.

Jihad has nothing to do with fighting for ‘freedom’ or against ‘oppression’ more like exactly the opposite in the imposition of sharia and the liquidation or enslavement of disbelievers and apostates.If you don’t like our version of freedom you should zb off to the Middle East and join your supposed ‘freedom fighters’.The same applies to all the rest of those who share your ideas.

Carryfast:

Bking:
Jihad,revenge,freedom all the same word.People fight against oppression,we have no right to impose our ideas of “democracy” on anyone.who the [zb] do we think you are.

Jihad has nothing to do with fighting for ‘freedom’ or against ‘oppression’ more like exactly the opposite in the imposition of sharia and the liquidation or enslavement of disbelievers and apostates.If you don’t like our version of freedom you should zb off to the Middle East and join your supposed ‘freedom fighters’.The same applies to all the rest of those who share your ideas.

In one short (by your standards) and succinct post Carryfast you have totally redeemed yourself in my eyes. Hell, I may actually read some of your other stuff now! :wink:

the maoster:

Carryfast:

Bking:
Jihad,revenge,freedom all the same word.People fight against oppression,we have no right to impose our ideas of “democracy” on anyone.who the [zb] do we think you are.

Jihad has nothing to do with fighting for ‘freedom’ or against ‘oppression’ more like exactly the opposite in the imposition of sharia and the liquidation or enslavement of disbelievers and apostates.If you don’t like our version of freedom you should zb off to the Middle East and join your supposed ‘freedom fighters’.The same applies to all the rest of those who share your ideas.

In one short (by your standards) and succinct post Carryfast you have totally redeemed yourself in my eyes. Hell, I may actually read some of your other stuff now! :wink:

+1

Carryfast:
If you don’t like our version of freedom you should zb off to the Middle East

+1

It’s true what they say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

Carryfast:

Bking:
Jihad,revenge,freedom all the same word.People fight against oppression,we have no right to impose our ideas of “democracy” on anyone.who the [zb] do we think you are.

Jihad has nothing to do with fighting for ‘freedom’ or against ‘oppression’ more like exactly the opposite in the imposition of sharia and the liquidation or enslavement of disbelievers and apostates.If you don’t like our version of freedom you should zb off to the Middle East and join your supposed ‘freedom fighters’.The same applies to all the rest of those who share your ideas.

You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm

thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm
Dont remember Iraqi soldiers invading and kicking my door in or Iraqi bombers wiping out my local hospital,watching my kids die due to Iraqi sanctions.Must have slept through that.

But they did have nuclear weapons its just that sneaky bugger Saddam had hidden them at Greenham common.

Just sat listening to a bunch of vegetables in my local spouting more racist ■■■■.
That the “muslims” are dragging us into a nuclear war.
Who has the nuclear weapons?
Open your eyes imbecile.
Bet you dont ■■■■■ when the doctor that saves your life after an RTA is a muslim do you.

1.6 billion muslims in this world and every one a terrorist.
Get a life,people like you are the real problem.

Bking:

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm
Dont remember Iraqi soldiers invading and kicking my door in or Iraqi bombers wiping out my local hospital,watching my kids die due to Iraqi sanctions.Must have slept through that.

But they did have nuclear weapons its just that sneaky bugger Saddam had hidden them at Greenham common.

Just sat listening to a bunch of vegetables in my local spouting more racist [zb].
That the “muslims” are dragging us into a nuclear war.
Who has the nuclear weapons?
Open your eyes imbecile.
Bet you dont ■■■■■ when the doctor that saves your life after an RTA is a muslim do you.

1.6 billion muslims in this world and every one a terrorist.
Get a life,people like you are the real problem.

No not every one a terrorist in just the same way that not every Austrian,German or Italian was a ■■■■ in 1939.

:unamused:

The locals seemed to be happy with killing their own kids in Iraq for the crime of friendship with Brit soldiers.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … lling.html

I’d actually prefer it if those ‘doctors’ went home to their own culture and started asking questions about this among other sharia type ‘actions’.

independent.co.uk/news/world … 77324.html

While the indigenous doctors stayed here to look after their own instead of emigrating to Australia or Canada.

As I said why don’t you shove your apologist bs and get yourself over to Saudi or Iran to be with the societies you’re trying,and failing,to defend.

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm

thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

I’m afraid I don’t have any links to back up what I say as it’s based on my own experiences. Whilst studying I actually spent a few years working in a predominantly Muslim industry, and MOST of the people I worked with were spot on. But even back then they were concerned that their faith was being corrupted by people for their own ends (their words not mine). It’s only come to public knowledge in the past few (10-15) years.

If you want to judge a religion based on it’s past, why not start with christianity?

Captain Caveman 76:
If you want to judge a religion based on it’s past, why not start with christianity?

What have you just done■■? :open_mouth:

Captain Caveman 76:

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm

thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

I’m afraid I don’t have any links to back up what I say as it’s based on my own experiences. Whilst studying I actually spent a few years working in a predominantly Muslim industry, and MOST of the people I worked with were spot on. But even back then they were concerned that their faith was being corrupted by people for their own ends (their words not mine). It’s only come to public knowledge in the past few (10-15) years.

If you want to judge a religion based on it’s past, why not start with christianity?

It isn’t being judged on ‘its past’.It’s being judged on inconvenient facts of the present like state sponsored Jihadist activeties and medieval Sharia laws and penalties in Islamic states like Saudi and Iran.

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:

Carryfast:

Captain Caveman 76:
You so realise that ‘Jihad’ translates as ‘to do God’s work’ and used to refer to charity work, one of the five pillars of Islam.
It’s a phrase thats been hijacked by a bunch if thugs who use it to gain influence and power.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought all this stated as being in the Koran was actually really written in it. :open_mouth: When it actually just means doing a bit of charity work and,contrary to all the stories of invasion and massacre and conversion to Islamic rule,the residents of Constantinople were really happy to hand the place over to the Ottomans and they all lived happily ever after together in multi cultural harmony. :unamused: :laughing:

thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm

thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

I’m afraid I don’t have any links to back up what I say as it’s based on my own experiences. Whilst studying I actually spent a few years working in a predominantly Muslim industry, and MOST of the people I worked with were spot on. But even back then they were concerned that their faith was being corrupted by people for their own ends (their words not mine). It’s only come to public knowledge in the past few (10-15) years.

If you want to judge a religion based on it’s past, why not start with christianity?

It isn’t being judged on ‘its past’.It’s being judged on inconvenient facts of the present like state sponsored Jihadist activeties and medieval Sharia laws and penalties in Islamic states like Saudi and Iran.

+1

Well, I don’t want to sound rude, 1.6b people are not terrorists, but every ■■■■■■■■ terrorist is a muslim, coincidence I don’t think so.

P.S. Christianity had a very dark period in Medieval Europe, but it was 500 years ago, we got over it, now is 21 century, where the very same jihad schmucks use Iphone, electricity, vehicles, planes, internet etc. and claim they want to live in 7th century Caliphate.

Carryfast +1, right on the money, but the problem is that some muslims want us to become like them and their backward religion to rule the world…

Historically, attempting to overthrow one’s rulers either resulted in a “win” and a successful ousting of a political leader, prince, king or caliph even - OR a “failed attempt” that resulted in a total brutalizing of those conspiritors involved.

I’m sure that if we actually had a faction get anywhere near close to overthrowing our own government - we’d see their own brutal response (their arses to the wall as they would be by this desperate point) that would remind us that ANYONE is capable of so-called “unspeakable acts”. The armed forces would be ordered to shoot protestors that appear to be supporting terrorists. If too many of HM forces are of the “wrong ethnicity” by this point, the crisis could blow up into civil war - unthinkable! I suspect the Government in this country has a special crack troop of throughbred Brits to deal with situations like this - to be deployed by COBRA.

“A desperate man - is at his most dangerous. Give him room, but watch him closely. From too close, he is as dangerous as a powder keg with a lit fuse. From too far away, you won’t know where he went when he melted into the crowd, until that crowd itself is torn asunder by the ensuing explosion you did too little to prevent…”

The proper way to deal with a deadly enemy is to “kill them all”, and make any peace to be won with those few civilians that remain.
You cannot reconcile with a fanatic. You cannot trust any treaty with a fanatic. You can therefore never win the peace that involves any fanatical faction.

The correct next moves:

(1) Russia annexes the Kurdish region of Turkey, and immediately hands it over to the Kurds as their new official homeland. If it can be done with Serbia - it can be done again for the Kurds.

(2) NATO restrains Turkey from doing anything about (1) - because they’ve now put Russia in an impossible position - lose all face, or retaliate in a way that can only weaken Turkey.
Russia moving to create a homeland for the Kurds therefore - is a internationally acceptable way to “punish” Turkey by merely moving up the agenda something they’ve been kicking into the long grass for too long already.

(3) The French bomb where they please in the region, and shoot down any plane that approaches them. The Russians will step out of the way - and let the French get on with it.

(4) NATO approach the UN to try and stop 1-4 happening - only to get Vetoed by China.

(5) “Boots on the ground” is the only way NATO forces can hope to have a piece of what remains. No boots = Let the region go the way it’s going to. An Isolated Turkey, A new state of Kurdistan, “No change” in Syria, and stability returning to the other Arab states.

(6) No one gives a ■■■■ what Israel thinks of all this. Let 'em stew.

Maybe the French should consider closing the border at Calais. Perhaps it’ll save the needless death that will surely happen before something is done. Just as well this guy was in a left ■■■■■■…

Now that just isn’t funny! :open_mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuAGjBQX0A#t=93 For those who don’t know just how bad things are now at calais

From the pic above it would appear that they are living up to their names of Spear chuckers amongst others as that is what it looks like sticking out of the windscreen, but no doubt the left wing bleeding hearts would still try and justify it,

So from the video we can see that the new fences aren’t working and in some places have been breeched, There is still a lack of police to deal with them, Throwing money at this isn’t going to fix it,
It’s time the French government grew a pair and started deporting those at calais, and flattened /burned cleared that jungle, and any other area’s that they set up camps ,