I’ve just read that Andrew Tinkler from Stobarts is to have a meeting with Gordon Brown and the transport secretary.
He is asking for hgv operators to be taxed more when running empty.
How could this be policed?
Stobarts has hubs all over the UK. The small operator / owner driver dosn’t.
It appears to me that he’s after legalising a scam to get rid of his competition.
Shaft…Stobarts? Surely not! The green monster showing their true colours
pete-b:
Shaft…Stobarts? Surely not! The green monster showing their true colours
It’s a bit like your mr burns Avatar. 
limeyphil:
pete-b:
Shaft…Stobarts? Surely not! The green monster showing their true coloursIt’s a bit like your mr burns Avatar.
Don’t know if there is any truth in it, but I heard they were naming their newest truck Monty Burns
How can specialised haulage stand a chance? Take the tanker work I used to do. I could take a tanker full of condensed milk to Bristol. Once I’ve unloaded it, then what? Can’t wash it out on site because there’s no CIP gear there. No idea how far it is to the nearest point I could and if I had to travel more than 20 miles, because the times were so tight, it’d turn into a night out job.
limeyphil:
I’ve just read that Andrew Tinkler from Stobarts is to have a meeting with Gordon Brown and the transport secretary.
He is asking for hgv operators to be taxed more when running empty.How could this be policed?
Stobarts has hubs all over the UK. The small operator / owner driver dosn’t.
It appears to me that he’s after legalising a scam to get rid of his competition.
The Government will probably listen to him and the White paper will be drafted by next week.
Cos if a transport company wants to pay tax and give the goverment the idea then you know the Government will fined a way to do it.
There have 1800 trucks Stobarts you can’t tell me that there don’t all run full, how many trucks does Stobarts have standing about waiting for work.
Big companies IMO are there to under cut the little guy all the time, there chase every penny including fuel duties but small firms out there can’t cos there need to say competitive
IMO Big companies we always look at getting rid of the competition its in there best interests
Sorry for the rant
You will probably find that Browns other adviser will be at the meeting, Terry Leahy chairman of tesco.
If this does happen there needs to be a strike !!!
Strike? Nobody,s got a job to strike from!
willie_mac:
You will probably find that Browns other adviser will be at the meeting, Terry Leahy chairman of tesco.If this does happen there needs to be a strike !!!
I hope your suggesting we withhold our labour type of strike Willie and not that we hold a strike an" Eddie day "
■■? How long before Stobarts start up a return loads department.■■?
Its probably time for the Monopolies Commission to get an inquiry opened up
into the British Haulage Industry as before long the Big Boy`s eg:- Stobarts, Wincantons DHL etc will control too much of the available work thus running out most smaller firms.
Who was it that wanted a Nationalised Haulage industry. ■■? 
Whatever happened to the Monopolies Commission, in place to ensure fair competition, yet we have Tesco and Stobarts screwing anyone that gets in the way, oh yes I forgot. The Monopolies Commission are a Government agency, the Mafia are mere amatuers compared to Browns regime 
Tiger
I’m sure a lot of firms at the minute would appreciate the chance to cut out empty running, but then again that would imply they had a load to take somewhere to get empty.
Edit, charging all foreign plated vehicles £150 every time they enter the country would be more worthwile.
Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?
i hope eddie will get taxed when his insulation from southwales does a drop in portsmouth then runs empty to southwales for another load!!! 
I think we should all write to our MP’s.
We can give them a drivers point of view as well as a operators point of view.
Well if they listen to that bloody idiot, We’ll all be shafted before long.
I want.
longer cabs. this could restart the new truck market.
simplified tacho rules. this will improve road safety.
all foreign trucks to be charged per day for using UK roads. (ireland exempt). It will make £££millions.
No charging to park up overnight. this will also improve road safety.
The police will take truck crime seriously.
That’s what the government needs to hear,
We don’t need more regulations, that’s what will come from this tax.
willie_mac:
If this does happen there needs to be a strike !!!
Which job would you be withholding your labour from Wullie?
I don’t see where this is my problem, for me to go on strike, cause my boss problems and leaving the door wide open for Eastern European companies to walk in and take our work. Leaving me with no job to go back too.
If my boss thinks it’s a problem, I’m quite sure he’ll take whatever steps he feels are required. If he needs his employee’s help, he’ll let us know. We’ll support him, as long as a pay cut isn’t expected.
This is a business problem, not a workers problem, as far as I can see.
when you see a stobart wagon let hes tyres down or just get the the solicitor that got willy end stobart of with speeding
limeyphil:
I’ve just read that Andrew Tinkler from Stobarts is to have a meeting with Gordon Brown and the transport secretary.
He is asking for hgv operators to be taxed more when running empty.How could this be policed?
Stobarts has hubs all over the UK. The small operator / owner driver dosn’t.
It appears to me that he’s after legalising a scam to get rid of his competition.
dont want to ■■■■ on your fire phill , but i get the impression you think every stobart truck never runs anywhere empty, well i can assure you they do, its alright saying theyve got depots everywhere, but if you send a fridge out , you want the driver to come back with a fridge, not arrive back with a chipper , taut,etc
so id think at the moment stobarts would have to pay like everyone else
I would be very naive if i thought that every stobart truck didn’t run empty.
But i think on percentage a small haulier / owner driver / specialist haulier would run empty much more than stobarts.
Stobarts know this, And they are putting themselves in a better tradeing position with government backing. Which is of course unfair competition.
Read in this weeks Commercial moter, Stobart Group is set to close another site it aquired from Innovate,at Larkhall south Lanarkshire with 95 job losses.