Entitlements

I have now retired from driving HGV`s having been told that was too old (over 65) by the company I worked for, the one with the green wagons with ladies names on front,anyway what I want to know is, if I do not take the hgv medical due next month will I loose my entitlements ie, C+E etc. Can I take my medical and pass at a later date if I want to do some part time work in future, I prefer to retain my hgv entitlements if possible, what are the rules if the licence medical expires, do you have to retake your test again.
Yours Halohodge.

I believe that you will not be able to drive hgv’s but you will not lose your hgv licence, i think if say next year you have your medical and pass then you can go back driving them again without a retest, but im sure someone with more knowledge will tell you more.

bald bloke:
I believe that you will not be able to drive hgv’s but you will not lose your hgv licence, i think if say next year you have your medical and pass then you can go back driving them again without a retest, but im sure someone with more knowledge will tell you more.

Yes you are correct, my medical has expired but I still have my entitlement. My licence runs out in 2028 and up until then I can still drive cars & bikes, and can drive lorries again when I renew my medical. Even not having a CPC doesn’t affect your licence, only the ability to drive commercially.

I let mine expire for a few years, then took a medical and got it back. I was told by Swansea you never lose your entitlement as long as you can pass a medical.

Were you forced to retire or did you agree to retire? It’s my understanding there is new legislation under which a company cannot now force you to retire at 65 as long as you want to continue and are able to pass the medicals.

Has anyone heard about any cases where this forced retirement has been reversed…?

JISL to ESL:
Were you forced to retire or did you agree to retire? It’s my understanding there is new legislation under which a company cannot now force you to retire at 65 as long as you want to continue and are able to pass the medicals.

Has anyone heard about any cases where this forced retirement has been reversed…?

There is new legislation but it doesn’t come into force till later this year (september) I beleive. Our general hospital has just sent out redundandcy notices to 64 year olds to get round it.

As you are proberly aware the above company decided to get rid of all its staff over 65 of age, I believe it was because there was a very serious accident with an older driver ie, over 65 and there was problems regarding insurance, that all I can say, some might also say that it was an opportunity to get rid of dead wood before the new employment legislation comes into force, believe what you will.
I decided to retire rather than having the indignity of being forced out, I am now 66.

halohodge:
As you are proberly aware the above company decided to get rid of all its staff over 65 of age, I believe it was because there was a very serious accident with an older driver ie, over 65 and there was problems regarding insurance, that all I can say, some might also say that it was an opportunity to get rid of dead wood before the new employment legislation comes into force, believe what you will.
I decided to retire rather than having the indignity of being forced out, I am now 66.

If you still feel like a few days though, the agency should suffice, although for me Hell will have to freeze over first

Wheel Nut:

halohodge:
As you are proberly aware the above company decided to get rid of all its staff over 65 of age, I believe it was because there was a very serious accident with an older driver ie, over 65 and there was problems regarding insurance, that all I can say, some might also say that it was an opportunity to get rid of dead wood before the new employment legislation comes into force, believe what you will.
I decided to retire rather than having the indignity of being forced out, I am now 66.

If you still feel like a few days though, the agency should suffice, although for me Hell will have to freeze over first

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The Government has announced that it is proceeding with its plan to phase out the default retirement age between 6 April and 1 October 2011. The change means that from 6 April 2011, employers will not be able to issue any notifications for compulsory retirement using the DRA procedure.

Between 6 April and 1 October, only people who were notified before 6 April, and whose retirement date is before 1 October can be compulsorily retired using the DRA. After 1 October, employers will not be able to use the DRA to compulsorily retire employees.

Although the Government is removing the DRA, it will still be possible for individual employers to operate a compulsory retirement age, provided that they can objectively justify it. Examples could include air traffic controllers and police officers.

But the Government is introducing an exception to the principle of equal treatment on the grounds of age for group risk insured benefits provided by employers, recognising the risk that employers might have ceased to offer insured benefits as a consequence of the removal of the DRA. Industry professionals had predicted potentially savage cuts in the coverage of benefits if the exemption had not been granted.

The Government’s consultation response says submissions against an exemption argued that demographic changes demand that the insurance industry be more innovative and make better use of medical underwriting and actuarial data when assessing risk.

A smaller number of respondents were concerned that abolition of the DRA would lead to uncertainty, making it harder for companies to decide whether particular individuals should be treated as “good” or “bad” leavers. Some concerns were also raised about defining normal retirement ages in occupational pension schemes.

But the Government has accepted that it is in the wider interest that these benefits continue and that spreading of risk allows cover to be provided to individuals who might otherwise be unable to obtain cover or only get cover on unfavourable terms.

Just to digress slightly ,after age 65 dont you have to have a medical every year to keep entitlement?

JFC999:
Just to digress slightly ,after age 65 dont you have to have a medical every year to keep entitlement?

You do indeed

Many thanks for your input, it looks as though my entitlements are secure at least for now.

Halohodge

Wheel Nut:

halohodge:
As you are proberly aware the above company decided to get rid of all its staff over 65 of age, I believe it was because there was a very serious accident with an older driver ie, over 65 and there was problems regarding insurance, that all I can say, some might also say that it was an opportunity to get rid of dead wood before the new employment legislation comes into force, believe what you will.
I decided to retire rather than having the indignity of being forced out, I am now 66.

If you still feel like a few days though, the agency should suffice, although for me Hell will have to freeze over first

I know 99% of agencies are ■■■■,but I’ve been working for the best one for 8 years.

Our companys policy is to retire staff at the age of 65…however being that i`m a great driver and an asset to the company, they have given me a new contract, with holiday entitlement, to work mon-wed-fri for as long as i wish…and take as much time off as i wish to spend in the sun…so what a great company they are, and i wish all companies were as thoughtful of their drivers as my company is. isnt it nice to be loved.

on reaching the age of 65. if you get an erection, use it, even if you are alone. don’t waste it. :laughing:

Limey, i vote at every erection for the best reasons possible. :laughing: :laughing:

limeyphil:
on reaching the age of 65. if you get an erection, use it, even if you are alone. don’t waste it. :laughing:

I’m only 51 and I already live by that maxim, and in fact I’m just popping over to YouPorn for that very reason.