ADR

Hi Guys, don’t know if there is a thread on this or not, has anyone got any info or can point me to a website that deals with ADR Packages. My Gaffer is going to arrange for 4 of us to take it with regards to a job coming up soon and I’d like to stay ahead of the game, witrh a bit of prior knowledge if I can.

Sapper

A quick read of this might help

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23162

Try www.jcoates.co.uk

burnie1:
Try jcoates.co.uk

sapper:
I live in France and transport mobile home to the south and Portugal,

Do Coates have a branch in France?

It migh help if the OP let’s us know roughly where in the UK he is, that way the folks of TNUK can point him tonwards a suitable provider.

I’ve recently completed 7 classes tanks & packs at doncaster GTA - £550 Inc meals, all materials & exams. 7 classes + either tanks or packs is circa £450.
They are reg charity status and therfore don’t charge VAT

Hi Rog, I am no longer transporting Mobile homes in France, currently working for an Agency in Fenstanton for the Dairy, doing three weeks on and one back home, there is a job tramping for a dutch company(big and yellow with red writing) but I need to have ADR in packages, something to do with transporting aerosols, I think, between hubs in Europe, hence the question. Thanks for the replies, I think the guy that owns the company has arranged for someone to come to his premises to do the necessary for 4 of us.

Sapper

sapper:
… but I need to have ADR in packages, something to do with transporting aerosols, I think, …

Hi sapper,

Aerosols are normally transported by using an ADR exemption called “Limited Quantities” (LQs)

If you are transporting LQs, then you won’t need an ADR licence, no matter how many you carry.

Hi DieselDave, maybe I picked him up wrong, maybe it wasn,t aerosols. So, how long does the module take, can it be done in a day or is it more intensive than that?

Sapper

Dave is correct, however if the OP does need “Packages” for non LQ loads hes going to need a min of “core” module, “packages” module and at least 1 class of DG goods to attain the ADR licence for that class in packages. Which means 1-2 days + exams of his time

The full ADR course is 5 days ( including tankers ) but if you carnt get all this out of him then try for as much as poss & ask if this can go towards your cpc as some ADR does depens how much you do as depends on how many hours you will gain

peirre:
Dave is correct, however if the OP does need “Packages” for non LQ loads hes going to need a min of “core” module, “packages” module and at least 1 class of DG goods to attain the ADR licence for that class in packages. Which means 1-2 days + exams of his time

Spot-on peirre, Core + Packs (or tanks) + one UN Class is the minimum requirement for obtaining an ADR licence.

I’d put the time for that at 2 whole days, but not all ADR providers are prepared to ‘customise’ their courses, although this is allowed by the Manual of Practice for providers. This inflexible approach by most providers leads to the candidates needing to be away from their companies for the whole of a Monday, most of a Tuesday, 1.5hrs (for Classes 2 or 3) on a Wednesday and approx 2hrs on a Thursday as they roll on and off a standard ADR course.

If the OP needs an ADR certificate, (which I doubt based on the info given) I’m guessing that the provider has customised their course because the course seems to be being conducted as a ‘mobile.’

I taught two such courses back-to-back in Oxford this past week, the guys also got 14hrs DCPC, and I was back home on Friday, so everybody won. :grimacing:

Dave, aerosols may fall under ADR, it depends on quantity and contents, they had a trick question about that on the DGSA exam. LQ has limits set out under UN types.

bobobolinsky:
Dave, aerosols may fall under ADR, it depends on quantity and contents, they had a trick question about that on the DGSA exam.

Hi bobobolinsky,

That’s perfectly possible mate, but that’s why I put the word “normally” in my first post in answer to the OP. (I’ve learned to use that word, because there’s sometimes an important point left out of an OP’s ADR question. :wink: )

As you’re probably aware, a very high % of drivers get mixed-up between the separate notions of LQs and transport in accordance with ADR 1.1.3.6.3, so I always try to find out exactly what their question relates to before I answer. In the case of this particular OP, I guessed that he might not know the exact details on the method of packaging.

From holding and teaching DGSA and drivers’ ADR myself, I’d be surprised if there was a “trick” question in the DGSA exams. However, there might have been a question that catches out those who may not bother to reference their answers correctly. :grimacing:

The reason I’m suggesting that it wasn’t a trick question is that a person would find it difficult put an ADR reference in support of an LQ aerosol of a larger size than that permitted under ADR 3.4

bobobolinsky:
LQ has limits set out under UN types.

If “types” means UN Numbers, then yes, but until 30/06/2015, there will be two methods for calculating permitted LQ sizes and the individual receptacle sizes do vary between the two methods.

burnie1:
Try jcoates.co.uk

Hi burnie1,

There’s not much info in answer to the OP’s question on the ADR section of that website, and I’ve spotted three quite basic errors in what little is actually written.

burnie1:
Try jcoates.co.uk

Why are there lots of your posts that say that?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66315&p=825737#p825737
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=64284&p=792363#p792363
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=63193&p=769530#p769530
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59545&p=711811#p711811
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56432&p=668047#p668047
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55812&p=658297#p658297
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53562&p=624432#p624432
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51137&p=590329#p590329
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45994&p=522158#p522158
posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=877462#pr877462
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45120&p=511024#p511024
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=43261&p=486492#p486492
+ many more!!

ROG:

burnie1:
Try jcoates.co.uk

Why are there lots of your posts that say that?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66315&p=825737#p825737
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=64284&p=792363#p792363
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=63193&p=769530#p769530
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59545&p=711811#p711811
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56432&p=668047#p668047
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55812&p=658297#p658297
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53562&p=624432#p624432
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51137&p=590329#p590329
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45994&p=522158#p522158
posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=877462#pr877462
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45120&p=511024#p511024
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=43261&p=486492#p486492
+ many more!!

I don’t know :wink:

I also wonder why burnie1 post from an IP address that says

inetnum: ******* - ********
netname: ***********
descr: J Coates
descr: ADSL
country: GB

dieseldave:

burnie1:
Try jcoates.co.uk

Hi burnie1,

There’s not much info in answer to the OP’s question on the ADR section of that website, and I’ve spotted three quite basic errors in what little is actually written.

The advertising department are just gonna love this. :laughing:

the forum rules:
Rule 6 Links to Other Websites.

Links to Commercial Sites which are blatant adverts are not allowed unless it is somewhere you’ve used in the past or are passing it on in response to a query and you have no connection to the company.

Well burnie1, since you’ve already electronically agreed to the forum rules, would you please comment on any connection you might have with J. Coates?