PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[m_a_n_rules]

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I echo those comments… thank you

[ray_smyth]

I found these adverts for transport companies in a Trades Directory on the Bootle History Forum.
Click on pictures for larger image.

[erf-ngc-european]

Thank you Dean! Yes, that Jameson ERF 5MW, a new one to me, goes with an earlier picture you posted, so here they are together. Ro

[kingswinford_kit]

DEANB:
We have had some cracking Scammell Routeman’s on here.

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Hi Dean ,yes indeed some cracking Routemans , C B Crook a name from the past they were i think from Tonteg nr Pontypridd ,regards Keith

[arcdaz]

DEANB:

coomsey:
Wareham Transport Volvo. Does anyone know the trailer make on this one and the Dorchester Transport one above
Yes Dean! Top one’s by Son,n bottom one by Steptoe,

The trailer on the Volvo does look a bit odd “coomsey” but they run alot of good gear.

tribsa:
Hi Dean

Top one is Hoyner or any chassis with a Barnham fold flat body the ones SCATS had were on York chassis.

I will try and get a photo of the wagon & drag but I am not very good at uploading onto here.

Cheers
Rich

Thanks for confirming the name Barnham Rich.

pv83:
Thanks for confirming Patrick. Good point you make about the cab being off centre when trying to load one. Imagine loads have come
to grief that way over the years ! I dont suppose you actually have much tyre actually on the trailer,most of it i imagine is hanging
over the side. You haven been paying attention Patrick as you have not commented on the Crusader pic i popped on a
page or two back ■■?

Aye, you’re spot on mate, most of the tyres rest on the outriggers (see pic), makes it “interesting”… I still think they should be loaded on low loaders though…

Saw the pic regarding the Crusader mate, had some keeping up to do, and you’re wrong, it did’t break down, the fitter was just admiring the engine

Nice pic chap ! Admiring the engine !!!

tvdriver:
“DEANB”

Think it says Morgan & Sons on the Scania.

The green Scania is one of b e Norman’s from Suffolk

Thanks for the name chap.

Daz,will pop some Routeman stuff on tomorrow chap.

Thank you Dean

[arcdaz]

ArcDaz:

DEANB:

oiltreader:
Couple more C L Transport, all credit to Richard Says.
Oily

Thanks for the pics Oily.

windrush:
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Yes, definately! When I started at the quarry, April 2nd 1975, the first job I did was to assist the late Trevor Stephenson (who was later killed in a motorcycle accident in Ashbourne) in lifting the radiator back onto it. The vehicle had recently sustained either a cab fire or damaged in an RTA and a new replacement was fitted in our workshop, you can just see that there is a curved ‘flitch plate’ from the nearside windscreen pillar extending across the top of the front bulkhead which was a later factory fitment to try and stop the cab cracking up around the screen. The original driver was a chap named Nelson Clews, but he had left when I started and the driver in the photo is Paul Jones who lived at Kingsley Holt in Staffordshire, the truck was based at our Kevin quarry near Alton Towers at that time. Paul had worked for Herman Tideswell at Kingsley but didn’t stay with Tilcon for long (tipper work doesn’t suit everyone) and I believe he returned to Tideswells again? What happened to it then I’m not sure, it was only a 24 tonne gross SWB and couldn’t be uprated so would have been disposed of early, unlike many of the 30 tonners which were recabbed as S40’s. Kevin quarry had a few drivers around that time who came and went fairly rapidly, and it wouldn’t have been used at our Ballidon quarry, so my information ends there! I wish I knew the locations of these Tilcon pics though, they did do a certain amount of distance work from both quarries (Twyford near Winchester, Felsted in Essex regularly during sugar beet season with sugar stone, Kent, Cornwall, Isle of Wight etc) but these recent pics could be somewhere in the Midlands? Thank’s for posting them, and apologies for the ramblings!

Edited to add that Bill Clowes (Old Stokie) may know more about its early life as he was driving at Kevin quarry in the days before I joined Tilcon?

Pete.

Nice reply and intresting comments. That pic brought back lots of memories Pete !

5thwheel:
“DEANB” 1968.

Nice pictures as usual Dean.

Humber McVeigh’s international service HITS was a tie up with a freight forwarding company called Sutcliffe,rumour had it that after the first new reefer was sign written and seen leaving Grimsby HQ
as S HITS they decided to drop Sutcliffe from the signage!

David

Thanks for the comments David.

tribsa:
Hi All

Pat Donavan has retired but his son carries on with a wagon & drag
I hope nobody minds but I have printed a copy off to give to Chris both are very nice people.

Cheers

Rich

Thanks for the info Rich ! Where the pic of the wagon and drag ■■?

Posted this one a few weeks ago incase you missed it.

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robthedog:
Think it says Morgan & Sons on the Scania.

I think that’s one of C B Morgan from Shaftesbury

Not sure about that one Rob. I thought they packed up years ago now and cant remember the last time i saw one of
there motors ? There colour scheme was a different green. There old yard is now built on so i assumed they sold it ?

Someone on here may know more about Morgan’s ■■

ArcDaz:
“DEANB” Some odds and sods.

Cement mixers
Hi Dean just to say Brillent stuff again i love the pages from the classic truck mags showing the photos of the cement mixers.By the way would know if Paul or Mark has got any photos of the following company who my farther worked for back in day Deards of Finchley they were based in South Mimms and North London they were a big waste company with artic bulkers skip trucks tippers and general haulage etc etc. There fleet of trucks was mixed Guys Mercedes Fodens Scammells Bedford Leylands i hope you may be able to help All the Best Daz

Thanks for your comments Daz.

Struggling with Deards pics Daz. This one came in a batch i bought a while back.

Marathon. Hi Dean Deards pics are very hard to get hold they are like gold dust Thank you for putting Leyland Marathon on Daz

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tastrucker:
“DEANB”
Harry Price Foden tipper.

Hello DEAN , Harry Price are from Dawley Telford ,an old established tipper fleet ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the info Trevor.

boardo96:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■?

3 Steve Winters, Exeter area, possibly Newton Abbott

boardo96:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the scrap hauling ERF ■■? Looks like a Henry Orchard motor, st Austell I believe, used to see them most days going towards Avonmouth docks

boardo96:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the DAF wrecker ■■ Cant understand why there is no name on it ,free advertising ■■
I’m sure it’s 1 of Cannon commercials, Bovey Tracey. Looks likes she hooked up 1 of Heltors Daf/Foden units( had some in Jet colours)

Anyone recognise the ERF tipper ■■
Rabbit! Always stuck his hand up to me but I never met him or
knew his real name but if you look you can see his name plate in the windscreen, Rabbit!
I’m guessing he worked out Trusham ? Always saw him flying around the Newton/Exeter area

Thanks for the info on those 4 motors “boardo96” and welcome to the forum.

MANTRONIC:
“DEANB”

Jones Transport Foden.

Hey Dean they are from Ystradgynlais in what we call the Swansea valley ,and good to see Mansel Davies as well on the previous page thanx MT

Hi Dean thank you for posting the Deards pic of the Leyland artic on here for me

Cheer’s “MT”. I think Paul Gee has a bit of a fetish for Mansell and Owen’s motors chap.

[flourpower]

DEANB:
Ings transport from Fordingbridge seen leaving Poole docks.

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Anyone recognise the DAF ■■

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Hovis ERF.
Hi Dean great to see some flourpower great shot thankyou
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Toleman Group Roadrain. Different colour scheme to usual ■■

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Christopher Hill Seddon Atkinson 401 from Poole seen here on Poole docks where they will be loading a grain boat.

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Mainland Market Deliveries Mercedes. Based in Portsmouth i think ?

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United Molasses ERF tanker.

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“robthedog” C.B.Morgan Mercedes from Shaftesbury.

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Dorchester Transport Marathon. They run mainly Volvo’s and the owner also owned Wareham Transport and i “think” Blandford Transport
although Harvey can probably confirm this ? Miss seeing there motors about,been gone along time now.

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Wareham Transport Volvo. Does anyone know the trailer make on this one and the Dorchester Transport one above ■■

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[flourpower]

DEANB:
Catto Roadtrain.

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F.Ward DAF bulker. Not sure where these are from ■■

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Rugby Cement Foden.
Great photo so much better orange livery compared to CEMEX white!!!
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Spencers Haulage ERF. Think they were from the Midlands area ■■

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Keenan Transport F12 from Ireland no doubt heading for Trucline at Poole.

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ARC Foden tipper. Morris minor van behind and a 1100/1300 on the rhs. Whats the car behind the Morris ? Looks like a Peugeot at
the back.

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Robert will like the Jameson ERF seen here in Poole when they were building the fleets bridge roundabout and flyover.

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Edgwicks Volvo F86.
Great to see this photo I work for edgwicks now mainly Merc fleet but we do have a Volvo FM 8 wheeler with crane.Still have artic flats in the fleet cheers flourpower
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Anyone recognise the Foden tipper ■■ Probably taken up somewhere around the Sandbach/Middlewich area.

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Henry Smither & Son ERF. Was that taken in Southampton ■■

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[deanb]

MANTRONIC:
“DEANB” Some Welsh and border trucks.

Cant make the name out,look like Karl ■■? Think we have had a pic of it before.

Hey Dean ,its Karl Jones with the 750 FH from Aberbargoed ,all reg end in LOG ! keep these Welsh motors coming thanx MT

Thanks for confirming the name “MT”

oiltreader:
“Whats the car behind the Morris ?”
My guess Dean would be Datsun Sunny and so to google to find I’m probably wrong.
Oily

Thanks Oily, i was gonna put Satsun but was not 100% sure. My uncle had an estate when i was a kid,not sure of the model but was a
nice car.

windrush:
Spencers were/are? from Porthill, Stoke on Trent Dean. Their yard was just off of the D road. The Routeman article brings back memories of changing rear axle cases under warranty, they regularly cracked around the diff bowl and leaked oil, and also adjusting the brakes before slack adjusters were fitted

Pete.

Thanks for confirming about Spencer’s Pete. Did Tilcon have Routemans,dont remember seeing a pic of one ?

m.a.n rules:

oiltreader:
“Whats the car behind the Morris ?”
My guess Dean would be Datsun Sunny and so to google to find I’m probably wrong.
Oily

I preety sure its a cherry…

KNS64:
Henry Smither & Son ERF. Was that taken in Southampton ■■

Hi Dean this is Southampton Herbert walker Avenue out of dock gate8
the hotel behind is now the holiday inn think it was called the post house hotel
Regards Kev

Thanks for confirming that Kev, i wasn’t 100% sure.

windrush:
I wish I knew which town that ARC Foden S39 tipper was photographed in, it figures a lot in these pics?

Pete.

Pete, Mark worked for Foden back in the 1970’s and according to Paul the pic’s were taken
around Sandbach,Middlewich,Stafford and Nantwich mainly.

ArcDaz:
"DEANB"We have had some cracking Scammell Routeman’s on here.

Hello Dean what a big surprize on this thread that you have posted up on here today i am over the moon with all the brillent stuff of Scammell Routemans all the brochures etc etc Daz

Thought you might like those Daz ! Thanks for the other comments as well.

I have found some more Routeman stuff as well Daz which i will post in the future.

m.a.n rules:
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I echo those comments… thank you

Cheers “m.a.n.rules”

Ray Smyth:
I found these adverts for transport companies in a Trades Directory on the Bootle History Forum.
Click on pictures for larger image.

Cant beat the old adverts Ray,thanks for posting.

ERF-NGC-European:
Thank you Dean! Yes, that Jameson ERF 5MW, a new one to me, goes with an earlier picture you posted, so here they are together. Ro

kingswinford kit:
“DEANB” We have had some cracking Scammell Routeman’s on here.

Hi Dean ,yes indeed some cracking Routemans , C B Crook a name from the past they were i think from Tonteg nr Pontypridd ,regards Keith

Thanks for the info Keith, that name rings a bell but it was a tipper company called G.B.Crook.

FLOURPOWER:
DEANB"

Hovis ERF.
Hi Dean great to see some flourpower great shot thankyou

Glad you liked it chap.

FLOURPOWER:
DEANB"

Edgwicks Volvo F86.
Great to see this photo I work for edgwicks now mainly Merc fleet but we do have a Volvo FM 8 wheeler with crane.Still have artic flats in the fleet cheers flourpower

Come on “FLOWERPOWER” play the game,where the pic chap ■■

[windrush]

DeanB wrote

Thanks for confirming about Spencer’s Pete. Did Tilcon have Routemans,dont remember seeing a pic of one ?

Wash your mouth out lad, we valued our ear drums! No, I worked for a BMC dealer and we serviced one owned by Sonning Haulage who had previously run Mastiffs. Because it was under warranty it had to have a new axle casing because it cracked slightly around the diff bowl. Reivers etc did the same and you usually saw them with oil streaks around the axle, most folk just welded them up but with it being under warranty it had to be changed.

Pete.

[tastrucker]

DEANB:
Some Welsh and border trucks.

Parry & Evans Scania.

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Alun Jones Scania.

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L.E.Jones Scania.

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Royall Transport Scania. Dont think we have had one of these on before ?

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J.H.Willis Foden milk tanker.

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Cant make the name out,look like Karl ■■? Think we have had a pic of it before.

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Hall Bros Scania.

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Owens MAN.

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MCL Logistics Volvo.

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Steve Hughes DAF.

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Hello DEAN Royall Transport are from Newtown and Parry Evans,who are into recycling from Welshpool ,they also run a MAN artic as well ,thank you Trevor

[boardo96]

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the ERF ?

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BP ERF tanker.

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Steetley Leyland.

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Anyone recognise the Volvo F7.

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Tarmac Leyland.

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Marley Tiles Volvo F7.

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Molo Scania.

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You don’t forget these motors if you’ve ever worked on one or been unfortunate to get stuck behind one for a mile or two. The F7 is one of Prospur de Mulders, used for collecting animal byproducts, I don’t recognise the reg so I don’t know where this one was based but I did know a lot of the blokes from the Exeter depot, my father worked in their workshop until the early 80’s when a lot of the drivers went owner operators so he then left to work out of a van and later run his own workshop to look after a lot of these vehicles. Spent many a weekend in my younger ( best) years helping out and later when passing my test I used to do a trip most Saturdays, then I used to go home really stinking !

[boardo96]

DEANB:
Been a tad busy the last few days chap’s so will pop some stuff on tomorrow.

A little teaser for tonight.

This vehicle was used in 1970 between Belguim and Germany. What is it ?

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Some from 2006.

Cant remember if we have had a Bulk Haul on before ■■

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H.Wragg Scania.

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Anyone recognise the Welsh live stock truck ■■

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Anyone know where Shirleys are from ■■

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Taylors of Martley MAN.

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Anyone recognise B & T Scania from Lancashire ■■ B ■■ & Tipping.

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Dont think we have had a Edward G Slade motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■?

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Containerships UK Mercedes. I wonder if he actually goes to Russia ■■

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B J Waters Mercedes bulker.

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If this is who I think it is Edward Slade was an owner driver from the Calne area in Wiltshire,
He did a lot of work for Aggregate Industries, I met him a good 20 year ago when I worked at Rockbeare concrete works, proper gent, old school and very wise and full of advise, not sure if he’s still with us, I’m sure he was in his 70’s back then.

[deanb]

windrush:
DeanB wrote

Thanks for confirming about Spencer’s Pete. Did Tilcon have Routemans,dont remember seeing a pic of one ?

Wash your mouth out lad, we valued our ear drums! No, I worked for a BMC dealer and we serviced one owned by Sonning Haulage who had previously run Mastiffs. Because it was under warranty it had to have a new axle casing because it cracked slightly around the diff bowl. Reivers etc did the same and you usually saw them with oil streaks around the axle, most folk just welded them up but with it being under warranty it had to be changed.

Pete.

“Wash your mouth out lad”

tastrucker:
“DEANB” Some Welsh and border trucks.

Parry & Evans Scania.

Royall Transport Scania. Dont think we have had one of these on before ?

Hello DEAN Royall Transport are from Newtown and Parry Evans,who are into recycling from Welshpool ,they also run a MAN artic as well ,thank you Trevor

Cheers Trevor good stuff as always !

boardo96:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the Volvo F7.

You don’t forget these motors if you’ve ever worked on one or been unfortunate to get stuck behind one for a mile or two. The F7 is one of Prospur de Mulders, used for collecting animal byproducts, I don’t recognise the reg so I don’t know where this one was based but I did know a lot of the blokes from the Exeter depot, my father worked in their workshop until the early 80’s when a lot of the drivers went owner operators so he then left to work out of a van and later run his own workshop to look after a lot of these vehicles. Spent many a weekend in my younger ( best) years helping out and later when passing my test I used to do a trip most Saturdays, then I used to go home really stinking !

Thats the bugger “boardo96” remember them now,you were brave working for them !!! Theres so many different companies you just
cant remember them all !

boardo96:
“DEANB”

Dont think we have had a Edward G Slade motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■?

If this is who I think it is Edward Slade was an owner driver from the Calne area in Wiltshire,
He did a lot of work for Aggregate Industries, I met him a good 20 year ago when I worked at Rockbeare concrete works, proper gent, old school and very wise and full of advise, not sure if he’s still with us, I’m sure he was in his 70’s back then.

More good stuff chap,thanks for the input.

[deanb]

“Spardo” Think i read somewhere that you drove for Whitetrux from Canterbury.

Click on pages twice to read.

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Cant make the name out on the DAF ? Christy ■■

Nice to see Sparks still using a traditional colour scheme rather than the dreaded white.

F.G.Bond & Son Foden. They always run Fodens so i wonder what make they operate today,anyone know ■■

Think the Merc is one of Massey’s ■■

Fracks Iveco. Dont think we have had one on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

I have never thought that type of writing is very clear ! Something traction on the Scania ■■

L.F.Nicholls & Son’s Volvo. Looks like hes between Bere Regis and Dorchester here.

Luxton & Coombes Volvo.

Anyone recognise the Scania live stock truck taken in Shropshire ■■?

Stown Hall MAN. Dont think we have had one of these on before,anyone know about them ■■

[deanb]

Heres something for the Foden fans !

Bayleys of Macclesfield article from 1968.

Click on pages twice.

[windrush]

I did vintage shows with an ex Bayley’s driver, sadly he passed away only a few years ago but his sister who is in her eighties still exhibits vintage machinery and is actually one of the stewards for the Smallwood and North Rode vintage rallies. Nice to see some Foden pics Dean! That Stown Hall MAN tipper is familiar as well but can’t just place where from?

Pete.

[coomsey]

[jshepguis]

Fracks transport still on the go Dean based at Newton Aycliffe County Durham. Once again thanks to you, Paul and Mark for the effort put into this thread much appreciated by us all i think.