Ray Smyth:
Silver Roadways lorries were seen regularly at Tate & Lyle sugar refinery in Liverpool. Ray Smyth.
T & L were the owners of Silver Roadways. Cheers Dennis.
Ray Smyth:
Silver Roadways lorries were seen regularly at Tate & Lyle sugar refinery in Liverpool. Ray Smyth.
That’s because Silver Roadways was a Tate & Lyle subsidiary company. Silver Roadways was always one of the first calls to be made if looking for a backload from London.
Bewick:
harry_gill:
When I was a kid during the war years and living on Strand Road Bootle
I used to steal my mothers veggies as a treat for Arthur V Crutchley’s
horses which I had to pass on my way to school, the horses got a treat
I got a clip round the lug.I assume that would be WW1 “H” Cheers Anon 1.
Hiya,
No Anon WW2 cheeky monkey. Although on the front face of the war
memorial in Lancaster you’ll see a Harold Gill killed in the last few
weeks of WW1 battle my Dads brother and my uncle I share his name.
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
When I was a kid during the war years and living on Strand Road Bootle
I used to steal my mothers veggies as a treat for Arthur V Crutchley’s
horses which I had to pass on my way to school, the horses got a treat
I got a clip round the lug.I assume that would be WW1 “H” Cheers Anon 1.
Hiya,
No Anon WW2 cheeky monkey. Although on the front face of the war
memorial in Lancaster you’ll see a Harold Gill killed in the last few
weeks of WW1 battle my Dads brother and my uncle I share his name.
Howay wor “H” you know I would never hold in less than the utmost respect our Glorious fallen dead in Both World wars , seriously ! but I thought I was being generous because you were maybe referring to the Boar War in S. Africa ! 
But “craics” Apart “H” our fallen WW1 & WW11 Heroes gave their today for our tomorrow the understanding of which is a bit “thin on the ground to-day” regards Dennis.
A Leyland FG bread van of Sunblest Bakery, seen in Seaforth, Merseyside in 1979.
Picture by Ged Fagan/ Bootle History Forum.
The “Branch” entrance and exit of the Mersey Tunnel near the
Pier Head in Liverpool in the 1960s. An interesting mix of cars,
vans and lorries. The building at Top Left was an enormous
warehouse of Henry Diaper & Co, Shipping & Forwarding agents.
Picture from Bootle Times Forum.
Ray Smyth:
The “Branch” entrance and exit of the Mersey Tunnel near the
Pier Head in Liverpool in the 1960s. An interesting mix of cars,
vans and lorries. The building at Top Left was an enormous
warehouse of Henry Diaper & Co, Shipping & Forwarding agents.
Picture from Bootle Times Forum.
Great old photo Ray.
I’ve been through that pipe a time or two en route to Birkenhead Docks late 60s. 
Ray Smyth:
The “Branch” entrance and exit of the Mersey Tunnel near the
Pier Head in Liverpool in the 1960s. An interesting mix of cars,
vans and lorries. The building at Top Left was an enormous
warehouse of Henry Diaper & Co, Shipping & Forwarding agents.
Picture from Bootle Times Forum.
Ex Ripponden & District Commer with “in house built” luton body letting the wagon and drag out. If it had still been in the ownership of R&D, I doubt if anyone would have been let out !!!
Regards. John.
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.
This belonged to the late Roy Scott, whose family ran Scott’s Cup Drinks in Aintree. Roy rescued the ET6 from beside the A55 in North Wales and set about rebuilding it from what should’ve been swept up in several bin liners. When it was finished, Roy went to rallies and road-runs all over the north of England - some were attended loaded with the firms products on the way to deliveries.
Roy was one of the founders of the Long Haul Club and drafted an article for the club magazine, which I put together and printed for the members. It detailed the restoration process and the fun he had when he got it MOTed for the first time when it was finished. Sadly for Roy, plating & testing had come about in the interim period between it originally being a working vehicle and when he got it back together and roadworthy again. Because of the new regulations, Roy got a shock when the payload restrictions made it almost unviable as a working wagon. Despite this, Roy did indeed put it to work alongside the firm’s Leylands and he would take it out himself, delivering to local cash & carry customers. The picture appears to show six pallets of product on the back, but his absolute limit was seven - which amounted to a little over six tons. As a headturner of a delivery motor, it apparently helped business. The firm did eventually run into financial difficulties, due to a decline in popularity of cup drinks. It was a family-run & owned operation, and there simply wasn’t the money in the business to diversify into new product lines, so instead of dodging debts Roy sold the Thames to help pay creditors. He always regretted losing the wagon, but said he’d rather do the decent thing than see people lose money. Roy was a proper gent, and is missed by many.
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.
This pic taken in 1990.
Ray
marky:
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.This belonged to the late Roy Scott, whose family ran Scott’s Cup Drinks in Aintree. Roy rescued the ET6 from beside the A55 in North Wales and set about rebuilding it from what should’ve been swept up in several bin liners. When it was finished, Roy went to rallies and road-runs all over the north of England - some were attended loaded with the firms products on the way to deliveries.
Roy was one of the founders of the Long Haul Club and drafted an article for the club magazine, which I put together and printed for the members. It detailed the restoration process and the fun he had when he got it MOTed for the first time when it was finished. Sadly for Roy, plating & testing had come about in the interim period between it originally being a working vehicle and when he got it back together and roadworthy again. Because of the new regulations, Roy got a shock when the payload restrictions made it almost unviable as a working wagon. Despite this, Roy did indeed put it to work alongside the firm’s Leylands and he would take it out himself, delivering to local cash & carry customers. The picture appears to show six pallets of product on the back, but his absolute limit was seven - which amounted to a little over six tons. As a headturner of a delivery motor, it apparently helped business. The firm did eventually run into financial difficulties, due to a decline in popularity of cup drinks. It was a family-run & owned operation, and there simply wasn’t the money in the business to diversify into new product lines, so instead of dodging debts Roy sold the Thames to help pay creditors. He always regretted losing the wagon, but said he’d rather do the decent thing than see people lose money. Roy was a proper gent, and is missed by many.
Mark, Thank you for the very interesting history of Roy Scott and his Ford Thames. Would it have been a 6 wheeler from new ?
and what was its G.V.W. and also its Reg number ? Regards, Ray.
flishflunk:
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.This pic taken in 1990.
0Ray
Thank you for the Scott Ford Thames picture, is it still about today ? Regards, Ray.
flishflunk:
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.This pic taken in 1990.
0Ray
The Ford Thames 6 wheeler has a London number, RGP 789, and I think that it
may have been a lorry connected to some government department. It would be
interesting to learn whose lorry it was from new. Ray Smyth.
I have done a bit of ferreting about, and this Ford Thames was new in 1952. It is shown on
modern records as being diesel with an engine capacity of 3800cc/ 3.8 litres. This may refer
to a 4D engine which became quite common in Ford Thames lorries, but perhaps, from new,
it may have had a side valve V8 petrol, or maybe the 4 cyl OHV engine which we referred to
as the “Cost Cutter”. The G.V.W of the Ford is 9145 kg. Ray Smyth.
Ray Smyth:
flishflunk:
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.This pic taken in 1990.
0Ray
The Ford Thames 6 wheeler has a London number, RGP 789, and I think that it
may have been a lorry connected to some government department. It would be
interesting to learn whose lorry it was from new. Ray Smyth.I have done a bit of ferreting about, and this Ford Thames was new in 1952. It is shown on
modern records as being diesel with an engine capacity of 3800cc/ 3.8 litres. This may refer
to a 4D engine which became quite common in Ford Thames lorries, but perhaps, from new,
it may have had a side valve V8 petrol, or maybe the 4 cyl OHV engine which we referred to
as the “Cost Cutter”. The G.V.W of the Ford is 9145 kg. Ray Smyth.
There was a batch of Ford Thames six-wheelers with van bodywork built for a government department, Civil Defence IIRC. I also vaguely remember that they were for use in the event of nuclear war, maybe for checking the populace for levels of radiation sickness.
gingerfold:
Ray Smyth:
flishflunk:
Ray Smyth:
Unusual Ford Thames 6 wheeler of W.Scott & Sons of Aintree, Liverpool.
I cant make out the signwriting on the cab door, stating what type of
“Manufacturers” they were, soft drinks perhaps ?. Also, what weight would
it carry, seeing that it has 6 stud wheels ? Picture from Bootle Forum.
Ray Smyth.This pic taken in 1990.
0Ray
The Ford Thames 6 wheeler has a London number, RGP 789, and I think that it
may have been a lorry connected to some government department. It would be
interesting to learn whose lorry it was from new. Ray Smyth.I have done a bit of ferreting about, and this Ford Thames was new in 1952. It is shown on
modern records as being diesel with an engine capacity of 3800cc/ 3.8 litres. This may refer
to a 4D engine which became quite common in Ford Thames lorries, but perhaps, from new,
it may have had a side valve V8 petrol, or maybe the 4 cyl OHV engine which we referred to
as the “Cost Cutter”. The G.V.W of the Ford is 9145 kg. Ray Smyth.There was a batch of Ford Thames six-wheelers with van bodywork built for a government department, Civil Defence IIRC. I also vaguely remember that they were for use in the event of nuclear war, maybe for checking the populace for levels of radiation sickness.
Graham, Thank you for your comments of the Ford Thames 6 wheeler, perhaps a photo of an original will turn up. Regards, Ray.
Ford did make six wheelers, I THINK the 6x4 was the Sussex and the 6x2 the Surrey but I may have that arse about face! They still had the torque tube propshafts of course.
Pete.
Ray Smyth:
Mark, Thank you for the very interesting history of Roy Scott and his Ford Thames. Would it have been a 6 wheeler from new ?
and what was its G.V.W. and also its Reg number ? Regards, Ray.
Thanks Ray - yes it was a six-wheeler from new, but as for the other information - I wouldn’t know exactly unless I dug-out the article Roy wrote; which sadly is lost from my collection now. I do recall Roy saying that it was a Ministry of Health screening vehicle when it was new, but what it was screenig for I don’t know. He did find and restore a replacement box body for it which I’m pleased to see has turned up in another picture on here. He rallied it with the box body on for a while before using it for the business.
A busy time in the centre of Liverpool, late 1950s or early 1960s.
Heavy traffic, including about 10 Liverpool Corporation buses in
Manchester Street, heading for the Pier Head. The traffic coming
down will turn to their left and pass through the Tollbooths of the
Mersey Tunnel, and make their way to Birkenhead and beyond.
