cav551:
Small willy syndrome was very evident yesterday when the leader of a country which is so tiny that I can’t even find it on the map, decided to have his willy-waving moment thinking it would be a big look at me occasion.
You can’t find a sovereign country on the map?
Erm . . . does a country have to be a certain size to justify its existence on the map?
Can you actually read a map Cav?
Boris thought that a demonstration by some anti-Brexit protesters was enough to ground him.
Aye, right, The Incredible Hulk would have shrunk from that too. Scary stuff.
I was wondering about how all the different Reichs were seen, as you only mention the Third & Fourth
Wikipedia (Whether You Like It Or Not) Says:- Reich is a German word analogous in meaning to the English word “realm”. The terms … The terms “First Reich” and “Second Reich” are not used by historians, whilst the term “Fourth Reich” is used mainly in fiction and for political humour; …
My apologies CF - I misunderstood you and thought you were being serious - you learn something every day - (well some of us do )
You’ve got to admit though, 4th Reich is pretty humorous.
I was wondering about how all the different Reichs were seen, as you only mention the Third & Fourth
Wikipedia (Whether You Like It Or Not) Says:- Reich is a German word analogous in meaning to the English word “realm”. The terms … The terms “First Reich” and “Second Reich” are not used by historians, whilst the term “Fourth Reich” is used mainly in fiction and for political humour; …
My apologies CF - I misunderstood you and thought you were being serious - you learn something every day - (well some of us do )
It’s clear enough exactly what’s mean’t by 4th Reich in this case.But unlike the 3rd Reich this agenda is all about imposing it by stealth,corruption and by infiltration of governments not with tanks and guns and bombing anyone into submission ( so far ).Calling it fiction when it’s fact obviously fitting the definition of stealth.
cav551:
Small willy syndrome was very evident yesterday when the leader of a country which is so tiny that I can’t even find it on the map, decided to have his willy-waving moment thinking it would be a big look at me occasion.
You can’t find a sovereign country on the map?
Erm . . . does a country have to be a certain size to justify its existence on the map?
Can you actually read a map Cav?
Boris thought that a demonstration by some anti-Brexit protesters was enough to ground him.
Aye, right, The Incredible Hulk would have shrunk from that too. Scary stuff.
Strange how it’s a ‘sovereign country’ not an EU vassal state when it’s one you respect as part of the 4th Reich leading group obviously where son of a ■■■■ Junker’s power base is.Tell us how many votes that Junker has v Farage not that I’d trust Farage any more than Boris to be anything other than controlled opposition.As for EU 4th Reich fanatics and Boris’ false flag publicity stunt why would they have bothered if they think that Boris is really going to deliver Brexit on 31 October meaning that it’s all over for the scum so no point.
Whatever Reich one wants to suggest, it seems an odd (i’d have said treasonous) idea to hand over use/control of our army to a country at the heart of the EU that has always made efforts to dominate europe one way or another, an ambition which won’t go away.
A country which whilst failing to do so with tanks and guns previously at huge cost to the continent and others around the world, has succeeded, with assistance once again from an onside French leadership, to subjugate much of europe via their industrial and financial strength, cleverly done mind by giving ‘‘free’’ money to these poorer countries which greedy grabbing politicians in some of these countries used without paying much if any heed to what the future cost would be…politicians usually only in it for a few years so not a thought to what might be after their temporary reign.
Politicians of these countries who object often get replaced by puppets of the EU regime, reminds one of a jackbooted army of occupation.
So hand them the use of armed forces that in previous days had to be used in dreadful circumstances to stop them? utter madness.
Remember comrade clegg attempting to rubbish as fantasy the warnings from Farage about plans for this army under EU (Germany by another name) control.
Notice its the Visegrad countries who are not at all happy with the way things are going, they’ve been under the rule of socialist totalitarian regimes before and know the true costs involved.
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
If he was trying to get through what over 17 million people of this country voted for then yes , but all these delaying and dirty trick games they are playing is probably making the general public get behind Boris or Nigel more likely
cav551:
Small willy syndrome was very evident yesterday when the leader of a country which is so tiny that I can’t even find it on the map, decided to have his willy-waving moment thinking it would be a big look at me occasion.
You can’t find a sovereign country on the map?
Erm . . . does a country have to be a certain size to justify its existence on the map?
Can you actually read a map Cav?
Boris thought that a demonstration by some anti-Brexit protesters was enough to ground him.
Aye, right, The Incredible Hulk would have shrunk from that too. Scary stuff.
Come on Cav , you know that if you insult one insignificant little country you will upset them all … i did say country
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
If he was trying to get through what over 17 million people of this country voted for then yes , but all these delaying and dirty trick games they are playing is probably making the general public get behind Boris or Nigel more likely
I daresay any future PM will come up with a rationalisation for any future prorogations.
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Parliament is trying to stop a Hard Brexit, not any/all Brexits.
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Pre 2016 vote how many were speaking of the present situation? I asked before if any here could show any links about that? None yet.
Isn’t Johnson trying to force through something that wasn’t in the original plan? When did Farage/Gove/Johnson etc ask for a vote for what we are faced with now?
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
If he was trying to get through what over 17 million people of this country voted for then yes , but all these delaying and dirty trick games they are playing is probably making the general public get behind Boris or Nigel more likely
I daresay any future PM will come up with a rationalisation for any future prorogations.
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Parliament is trying to stop a Hard Brexit, not any/all Brexits.
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Pre 2016 vote how many were speaking of the present situation? I asked before if any here could show any links about that? None yet.
Isn’t Johnson trying to force through something that wasn’t in the original plan? When did Farage/Gove/Johnson etc ask for a vote for what we are faced with now?
We are now faced with what MPs think is their right to do and that is to frustrate people into submission with endless tactics to stop Brexit because they all have one eye on becoming the next Kinnock family and that sums up the EU , full of failed useless MPs
There is no hard or soft Brexit.
We either leave or we don’t leave and its as simple as that.
Its proving impossible to negotiate a workable deal before the agreed leaving date, so we leave without a deal.
A majority voted for that, the referendum was a simple question, leave or don’t leave, no mealy mouthed alternatives or half measures designed to keep the right snouts in the trough, we voted out, cheerio.
We knew exactly what we were voting for (some of us for the second time), but more than that we knew what and who we were voting against, and that is the undemocratic european empire who have proved to even the most blinkered exactly what they are, it had to be Britain who did this, its always us who stands up to ■■■■■■■■■■.
They want our £39billion and further payments in due course (they always do, socialists love spending other people’s money), well they can sing for that, and they can put their own accounts in order and work out how much they owe us for our investments in the shoddy scam over the past 40 years.
If our rotten parliaments won’t enact the will of the people they work for we’ll replace them with those who will, those who believe in democracy.
Once again i doff my cap to the few loyal genuine MP’s and peers, who despite massive pressure from their own usually poor leaders have not faltered from their duty to the country and its people, thankfully my own MP is one of those stalwarts.
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
Have been watching court proceedings and that exact point was put forward by one of the 11 judges who said what if the prorogue was for a year to the governments representative putting there side of the case and as he pointed out at the end of the day the Queen can refuse to grant any such demands so it is highly unlikely to occur, Buzzer.
Juddian:
There is no hard or soft Brexit.
We either leave or we don’t leave and its as simple as that.
Its proving impossible to negotiate a workable deal before the agreed leaving date, so we leave without a deal.
A majority voted for that, the referendum was a simple question, leave or don’t leave, no mealy mouthed alternatives or half measures designed to keep the right snouts in the trough, we voted out, cheerio.
We knew exactly what we were voting for (some of us for the second time), but more than that we knew what and who we were voting against, and that is the undemocratic european empire who have proved to even the most blinkered exactly what they are, it had to be Britain who did this, its always us who stands up to ■■■■■■■■■■.
They want our £39billion and further payments in due course (they always do, socialists love spending other people’s money), well they can sing for that, and they can put their own accounts in order and work out how much they owe us for our investments in the shoddy scam over the past 40 years.
If our rotten parliaments won’t enact the will of the people they work for we’ll replace them with those who will, those who believe in democracy.
Once again i doff my cap to the few loyal genuine MP’s and peers, who despite massive pressure from their own usually poor leaders have not faltered from their duty to the country and its people, thankfully my own MP is one of those stalwarts.
I can’t believe you’ve fallen for the same trick.We only leave ‘without a deal’ if the UK and the EU can’t agree terms.
It’s got nothing to do with our own government reaching terms for its withdrawal agreement to be put to the EU,according to the terms of article 50,the withdrawal act and the surrender act.That takes as long as it takes and we can bet that it will be anything but Leave.More like BRINO if not revocation of Brexit either way we’ll be tied to Lisbon.Regardless of all the diversionary bs that the Tories are using to placate the Leave vote before they deliver the coup de grace to Brexit.Wake up and smell the coffee.The fact is article 50,the withdrawal act and the surrender act are an in depth defence against secession which are more formidable than Kesselring’s Gothic line and Rommel’s Atlantic Wall combined.While in that case we also had a Head of State and parliament and forces on our side.Unlike in this case,in which we’ve got the Head of State,Parliament,the forces and the interests of US Federalism all ranged against us.
dexxy57:
You’ve got to admit though, 4th Reich is pretty humorous.
You’ve got to admit the term seems upset the EU Federalists more than most.You protest too much.
The rantings of a conspiracy theorist don’t upset me in the slightest.
Your 4th Reich theory is the comedy gift that keeps on giving.
It’s no theory.It’s fact and the EU loyalist Federalist Fascist zbwits know it.The cat is out of the bag so you might as well stop trying to laughably lie about it.
Juddian:
Once again i doff my cap to the few loyal genuine MP’s and peers, who despite massive pressure from their own usually poor leaders have not faltered from their duty to the country and its people, thankfully my own MP is one of those stalwarts.
There is only two ‘stalwarts’ we could have counted on and that was Batten and Hoey.Batten being the only one who called out the Queen on all this charade and said leave on the basis of by passing article 50.The rest are lying pretenders.
Buzzer:
Just an observation thing and that is that I don’t blame Boris from keeping his powder dry perhaps that’s why he does not like endless interview’s and lets face it if he wanted a crap nowadays there would be a bunch of remainer MP’s take him to court to get a law pasted to say he could not, a case of crap or bust Buzzer
Look at it like this:
If Johnson can prorogue Parliament, without oversight, for 5 weeks, why not for 8 or 9 weeks?
If he can do that why can’t any future PM (Corbyn?) do the same? Would you be happy with Corbyn in a minority government shuuting up the opposition?
Have been watching court proceedings and that exact point was put forward by one of the 11 judges who said what if the prorogue was for a year to the governments representative putting there side of the case and as he pointed out at the end of the day the Queen can refuse to grant any such demands so it is highly unlikely to occur, Buzzer.
So, should the Queen decide how much say parliament gets?
If a green bill is being thwarted in the future should King Charles decide on whether or not it’s voted on or pushed through?
Franglais:
So, should the Queen decide how much say parliament gets?
If a green bill is being thwarted in the future should King Charles decide on whether or not it’s voted on or pushed through?
Handing over its authority to a foreign power isn’t a a say which parliament gets.
… i did say country