Perhaps this belongs in a different part of the forum, I don’t know, but as I’m asking it of truck drivers and others with an interest in the road transport industry, then perhaps it’s relevant in the PDF.
With referendum day just a fortnight away, which way do you intend to vote? If you want to say why, feel free to do so, otherwise please just choose the poll option closest to your choice.
Harry Monk:
Perhaps this belongs in a different part of the forum, I don’t know, but as I’m asking it of truck drivers and others with an interest in the road transport industry, then perhaps it’s relevant in the PDF.With referendum day just a fortnight away, which way do you intend to vote? If you want to say why, feel free to do so, otherwise please just choose the poll option closest to your choice.
I think it belongs exactly where it is so as many people as possible see it and vote,well done.
Remain…
Anyone in the movement of goods for a living who wants to leave a big market to a smaller one really needs a checkup.
Darkside:
Remain…Anyone in the movement of goods for a living who wants to leave a big market to a smaller one really needs a checkup.
There’s a much bigger market beyond Europe,
Long way in truck though Einstein…
There is only one question for me, do i want to live in a country that no longer makes its own laws, and am i happy that the people who ultimately rule over us from another country (without a shot being fired in anger) answer to only themselves and are self selected.
We no longer have a meaningful democracy because our leaders have given away our country, and the electorate must bear a great responsibility for that because they elected traitors (who promised them, Judas like, their petty trinkets) time after time.
I care not how much leaving costs me personally, my vote is not for sale…some of our politicians are for sale but we do not have follow their poor lead.
Millions of good men and women gave all including their lives to keep these islands free for us, all we have to do is put an X on a piece of paper and do our share to put a stop to the last 40 years of decline and sell out, a small price to pay for our grandchildren.
Personally, I think that when cabotage restrictions are removed, as is the eventual aim of the eu, the British domestic haulage industry will go exactly the same way as the British continental transport industry, i.e. it will all be replaced by cheaper labour from post-Communist economies.
Darkside:
Long way in truck though Einstein…
How rude!!
Remain.
Isolationism is not the way the world needs to go, now or ever.
America is verging on that dangerous path.
Without collaboration you get factionalism. Factions disagree and fall out.
I’d rather a peaceful United Europe than what our previous generations lived through.
It is all very well to stand up for your countries “rights”, but within a framework of cooperation.
Darkside:
Remain…Anyone in the movement of goods for a living who wants to leave a big market to a smaller one really needs a checkup.
Nothing I move gets exported. I do collect one or two loads a week out of BMW at Cowley, but I’m still voting leave even if BMW do shut the works.
I was going to vote in, then I went for out, but now I think it’s shake it all about. 
Ps it wasn’t me who went for other.
I don’t want to be a federal state of an unelected, undemocratic Union, who see us as a cash cow to prop up their socialist agenda
So what are we exporting in such vast numbers that it will support a vibrant trucking industry? And how many of those industries will relocate, with the help of massive European grants, after we leave?
If we leave (and god forbid the government let the Sun and Wail reading electorate decide…), it will start a chain reaction. And no-one can predict the outcome.
Scenario 1. Britain leaves. Europe pulls together, puts up tariffs and makes trading for the British based services industry impossible. . The government in Westminster abolishes most workers rights, to ‘aid the recovery of our industry’. I.E. to bolster their own and their industry mates pockets.
Scenario 2. Britain leaves. Other European countries rebel and hold referendums. Holland and Denmark leave or demand consessions. German citizens revolt. French revolts inflame.
Worst case scenario, Europe falls apart. Germany with strong industry base closes borders, and survives/prospers, with Holland because of Europort. France, closes borders and reverts to agriculture. Belgium collapses, and large Immigrant population revolts. Holland has little industry or export, but large harbour and shipping fleet, closes borders, and trades.
Spain. Italy. Greece… no comment needed.
The danger is Russia, and the former East bloc countries. They will be abandoned by western Europe, and fall under the influence of Russia once more. A volatile military situation will develop was again, aided by Britain and America, because the arms industry is one of the last industries this island has left…
Leave.
One of the biggest deceptions I think is the idea that a vote to Remain is a vote for the status quo, when in fact in the long term it’s a vote for ever closer union & further erosion of our sovereignty. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to remove ourselves from this, a vote to stay essentially removes any threat of the UK ever leaving and we’ll surely find our constant hassling for concessions & opt outs much harder to achieve, we’ll be well & truly in.
That is my fear, I personally have no interest in being a European state & i’ll take a recession on the chin for the sake of independence.
rob22888:
Leave.One of the biggest deceptions I think is the idea that a vote to Remain is a vote for the status quo, when in fact in the long term it’s a vote for ever closer union & further erosion of our sovereignty. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to remove ourselves from this, a vote to stay essentially removes any threat of the UK ever leaving and we’ll surely find our constant hassling for concessions & opt outs much harder to achieve, we’ll be well & truly in.
That is my fear, I personally have no interest in being a European state & i’ll take a recession on the chin for the sake of independence.
You’ll have a choice of conservatives, who will sell you and what ever is left that is not bolted down, to foreigners and their mates. Or labour. Old labour took charge of a broke and broken country after the war, and gave it the NHS. The tories have sold everything to China, and are now eying up the NHS.
Looooo:
Remain.Isolationism is not the way the world needs to go, now or ever.
America is verging on that dangerous path.
Without collaboration you get factionalism. Factions disagree and fall out.I’d rather a peaceful United Europe than what our previous generations lived through.
It is all very well to stand up for your countries “rights”, but within a framework of cooperation.
Personally, I don’t think it’s isolationism. It actually removes some of the restrictions that prevent us negotiating with major non EU countries. It allows to collaborate globally in a way we can’t now. I expect we would still trade as much with Europe as ever, so to me it’s anything but isolationism.
I also think that the peace we have had owes far more to NATO than the EU.
As ever all this is an opinion, very little any of us say is hard fact.
Someone told me that voting leave made me a quitter; well I quit my job once and built a business. Perhaps part of how you intend to vote is related to the individuals appetite for risk.
Take a guess!
albion:
Looooo:
Remain.Isolationism is not the way the world needs to go, now or ever.
America is verging on that dangerous path.
Without collaboration you get factionalism. Factions disagree and fall out.I’d rather a peaceful United Europe than what our previous generations lived through.
It is all very well to stand up for your countries “rights”, but within a framework of cooperation.
Personally, I don’t think it’s isolationism. It actually removes some of the restrictions that prevent us negotiating with major non EU countries. It allows to collaborate globally in a way we can’t now. I expect we would still trade as much with Europe as ever, so to me it’s anything but isolationism.
I also think that the peace we have had owes far more to NATO than the EU.
As ever all this is an opinion, very little any of us say is hard fact.
Someone told me that voting leave made me a quitter; well I quit my job once and built a business. Perhaps part of how you intend to vote is related to the individuals appetite for risk.
But what do we export, to the rest of the world? In large enough quantities to sustain the economy? This country became rich of coal and wool. Then invested that money in building an empire, taking other countries wealth by force…
I’m voting Out for a few reasons firstly I’m English and proud of it.
My great grandad was gassed at the somme and spent 12 months in hospital for this country and will stand stuffing if I let him down by voting to stay,The Empire ruled half the world on its own before and to think the Government is scared of 1 short arse German bint to stand up for itself when millions of brave boys and girls in the 2 wars went months on end of being shot and killed for nothing makes my blood boil.
Also the guy next door’s nephew sells cars last week had a Romanian bloke turn up put a deposit on a car next day turn up with a cheque from …you guessed it the DSS he said they give me money for car to look for job,it was for £2750 now how does that work? Really? So have always worked and claimed nowt and he been here 8 weeks and gets that?.
Vote out and get our country back our land our laws,don’t get me started on the dirty smelly goat humpers.Ask the relatives of Paris and Brussels attacks how they feel about a together more peacefully better europe Mr dodgy dave
Evil8Beezle:
Take a guess!
Evil, don’t forget that whilst you drive a comfortable truck, and earn enough money to take your missus for a slap up harvester on a Sunday, to your government you are still just a serf. And you are going to vote to tell them that you are happy for them to return to those good old English times of forelock tugging poverty.