All Hail King Boris!

Munchkin:
The turkeys haven’t just voted for Christmas, they"be nipped out and picked up some stuffing and cranberry sauce too!

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I think a lot of people voted Conservative not as an endorsement of the Conservative manifesto, but because they were the least worst option and the only party that promised to deliver Brexit in at least some form.

Corbyn and his attempted bribery with free union, money for the GRASPIs, free trains, taking back all sorts into state ownership (in theory I dont have a problem with some natio validation, but the cost to do so…), either a lot of people were going to feel let down or the economy would have tanked in double quick time. And I think a lot of people were genuinely scared of the far left Labour policies, which left them little option in the 2 party race.

albion:

Munchkin:
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I think a lot of people voted Conservative not as an endorsement of the Conservative manifesto, but because they were the least worst option and the only party that promised to deliver Brexit in at least some form.

Corbyn and his attempted bribery with free union, money for the GRASPIs, free trains, taking back all sorts into state ownership (in theory I dont have a problem with some natio validation, but the cost to do so…), either a lot of people were going to feel let down or the economy would have tanked in double quick time. And I think a lot of people were genuinely scared of the far left Labour policies, which left them little option in the 2 party race.

Nationalising the Railway etc was never going to work again like it did in the 1940’s ,
Most railway companies were broke and infrastructure was crumbling due to the effects of 6 years of war an bear minimal maintenance
Our utilities were not joined up to each other ,even 2 close towns Could have their own gas and power network

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Juddian:
Those traditional Labour strongholds would still be Labour seats if the party hadn’t deserted the working class.
Instead it became an institution centred around Islington and the metropolitan luvvie class of champagne socialists, people well represented on the front opposition benches who can’t abide the genuine working class of the country, and can’t replace them quickly enough with another class of people whom they can patronise by giving them someone else’s money.

What socialists always get wrong is the working class, the working class arn’t as thick as the Labour party imagine and generally they arn’t socialist at all, they are small c conservatives, who want proper jobs and to be able to provide for their families, they want decent places to live where they can raise those families in safety without having gangs of thugs turning once decent neighbourhoods into no go zones for normal people.
The working class don’t want freebies, they’ve learned the hard way through years and generations of hard work in their families that nothing comes for free, and that socialists always have their hands in your wallet to pay for all the free stuff they offer to bribe minority groups for votes, the small and diminishing number of fools who believe the crap they talk.

Throughout history socialists have disarmed people and then gone about slaughtering them by the million, socialists can’t be trusted, they wax lyrical about equality and freedom whilst making sure they are the ones more equal and taking away freedoms from everyone else as fast as they can manage it.

Brexit killed the Labour party, the writing was on the wall after May’s election debacle, had the labour party become the champions of clean break Brexit and moderated their rhetoric, they could have reversed what has happened this time, but oh no, just like thay always do they fail completely to see what is plainly in front of their faces, instead of answering the understandable national mood, they condemned everyone who dared not agree with them calling them everything you could think of.
Well the last 3.5 years proved beyond all doubt to anyone listening exactly what the political class thought of them, the working class were despised and insulted, the message went home alright.

This election was the 2nd Referendum, Labour and the Libs and the SNP (aided and abetted by various wet tories and a political judiciary) wished to deny the result of the democratic Referendum of 2016, and the electorate his given its response, get over it.

Just for your info, i’m no Tory, they do not speak for me and i do not trust them and i haven’t voted for one of the 2.5 parties for decades including this time, but millions of people came to the conclusion that the Tories under Johnson is their best bet to get the Brexit the country demanded 3.5 years ago, time will tell if they were right or whether the Tories revert to type and betray the country, i do not know and frankly no longer care.
I’m sorry Dennis Skinner lost his seat, i respected that man, and i’m even more sorry Caroline Flint lost hers, though arguably she is far too sensible to be in the current Labour party anyway.

Labour can use the next 5 years to grow up and become the party of the self respecting and capable of thought majority working class once more, or it can carry on doing the same as it has been and wonder why in 5 years time it loses again by an even bigger majority.

Give you a tip, the elephant in the room is mass immigration, it has changed this country into a place barely recognisable and it will never be the same again, put forward a sensible immigration policy whilst the Tories deliberately ignore the issue for fear of being labelled 'ists could be the ticket to recovering the Labour party.

Brilliant post. Agree with every word.

albion:

Munchkin:
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I think a lot of people voted Conservative not as an endorsement of the Conservative manifesto, but because they were the least worst option and the only party that promised to deliver Brexit in at least some form.

Corbyn and his attempted bribery with free union, money for the GRASPIs, free trains, taking back all sorts into state ownership (in theory I dont have a problem with some natio validation, but the cost to do so…), either a lot of people were going to feel let down or the economy would have tanked in double quick time. And I think a lot of people were genuinely scared of the far left Labour policies, which left them little option in the 2 party race.

My personal take on it is that most folk, leaver or remainer, just wanted an end to the Brexit debacle. By now most don’t care one way or the other they just want an end to it. OK the floppy haired posh ■■■■ benefits for a bit but life goes on!

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eagerbeaver:
But these nurses, police officers, prison officers, teachers and hospitals better start turning up sharpish or Boris will be out as quick as he got in.

Fixed term Parliament act, he can sit there for the next 5 years doing whatever the hell he wants and nobody can get him out, absolutely no chance any of the promised nurses, hospitals etc will turn up, will be too busy selling the NHS to the yanks.

Juddian:
Those traditional Labour strongholds would still be Labour seats if the party hadn’t deserted the working class.

Agreed.

Personally I’m just crossing my fingers that this finally blows the Blairites and the Remainers in the party out of the water completely, because we’ve paid the ultimate price for pandering to them, many of whom still shunned the party even when a SR was offered at great political cost.

blue estate:
Nationalising the Railway etc was never going to work again like it did in the 1940’s ,
Most railway companies were broke and infrastructure was crumbling due to the effects of 6 years of war an bear minimal maintenance
Our utilities were not joined up to each other ,even 2 close towns Could have their own gas and power network

Sounds just like today! Railway companies broke, infrastructure crumbling, minimal maintenance, utilities disjoint - two people next door to each other can have phone lines, and the associated engineers, billing, and customer service, provided by totally separate companies.

nomiS36:
I will ■■■■ myself laughing if they make Diane Abbott their leader as she ticks quite a few snowflake boxes.
I really don’t think even the Labour Party is that stupid though [emoji23]
We shall see…

I reckon Abbot is around “third in line” - but that means she’ll probably think she’s next! :open_mouth:

Munchkin:
My personal take on it is that most folk, leaver or remainer, just wanted an end to the Brexit debacle. By now most don’t care one way or the other they just want an end to it.

Nah don’t agree mate.
Firstly there should not have been any question of ‘‘leavers and remainers’’ after the referendum, it was a democratic vote and a decision to LEAVE…that should have been it, and if that HAD have happened there would not be such a thing as a …‘‘remainer’’. :bulb:

Secondly …The pro Brexit majority absolutely DID care, we felt cheated and patronised, which was clearly illustrated by the election result :bulb:
We were sick of hearing these bad loser ■■■■ wingers, and especially when they insulted us by the tiresome ‘‘They did not know what they were voting for’’ ■■■■■■■■.

Munchkin:
The turkeys haven’t just voted for Christmas, they"be nipped out and picked up some stuffing and cranberry sauce too!

That’s all well and good, but you can only play with the cards dealt on the table.
So looking at those cards,… who would your alternative ideal party and leader have been?.. surely not Corbyn ffs. :open_mouth:

Times change, generations pass, people change.

Add to that a party that basically said a big ■■■■ you to it’s ground bases in the north who wanted to leave and the same ground base who realised that blindly voting Labour for decades has got them ignored and taken for granted results in a landslide for the guy who pledged to do what they want.

He’s got to deliver now and big time, but, don’t forget this was the guy who was elected London mayor twice by a metropolitan electorate far more likely to loathe than love him.

If he manages to repeat this successfully and as a PM with a sizeable majority achievement will be far easier for him than for May, then we may be seeing the start of a long premiership.

I think people underestimate BJ at their peril as JC and his cronies have just found out…

This isnt a political forum old chaps. If you want that head over to the bbc website. Boris doesnt set fire to trucks for a living. Get the bottom lips back in and be done with it.

cgscott:
This isnt a political forum old chaps. If you want that head over to the bbc website. Boris doesnt set fire to trucks for a living. Get the bottom lips back in and be done with it.

It’s been moved to Bullys, which is all things but trucks.

As long as carryfast doesnt get involved, itll be interesting :wink:

(Warning: Contains Swearing, Leftie Tears, and Mild Peril.)

You ignore the far Left AND Far Right, and when the time comes that they preciptate the violence already threatened - you stamp on it HARD.

The Tories - may well be getting their “Law & Order” Mojo back in the near future…

Surely the days are numbered for these hateful protestors like the woman @ 5m50sec in on the video…

albion:

cgscott:
This isnt a political forum old chaps. If you want that head over to the bbc website. Boris doesnt set fire to trucks for a living. Get the bottom lips back in and be done with it.

It’s been moved to Bullys, which is all things but trucks.

As long as carryfast doesnt get involved, itll be interesting :wink:

I reckon we need a character limit for each post, like twitter. That way at least the copy and paste gang will be quietened down somewhat…

Darkside:

albion:

cgscott:
This isnt a political forum old chaps. If you want that head over to the bbc website. Boris doesnt set fire to trucks for a living. Get the bottom lips back in and be done with it.

It’s been moved to Bullys, which is all things but trucks.

As long as carryfast doesnt get involved, itll be interesting :wink:

I reckon we need a character limit for each post, like twitter. That way at least the copy and paste gang will be quietened down somewhat…

CF is already over at bullys - the first round is on him, by the looks of it. :stuck_out_tongue:

You want a “Character Limit” for each post here?
Are you sure about that?

Trump Character.jpg
Is this one low enough? :stuck_out_tongue:

the maoster:

bigdave789:
You think Johnson gives a toss about working people? .

You think that any MP gives a toss about working people other than the ones working in their factories/wharehouses/call centres?

And do you think the mine union leaders gave a toss for your mates in Bolsover and beyond, this result has brought some 90 year old ex miners to finally see the light that Labours not Working.

As a man I quite liked Dennis Skinner, he didn’t personally affect me as a politician but he came across as a good camp comic.

You need to worry more about the Labour Party with the “youngsters suggesting death as an alternative to peoples vote,”


The message then…

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The message Now…

Labour will be out for a very long time if they don’t accept that they have made mistakes and need to change, Ken Livingstone’s take on the campaign is that there were no errors and if the media hadn’t cooked up the anti Semitism theme then Corbyn would now be PM, and is still denying that there is a problem with anti Semitism in the Labour party even though that was the reason he left the Labour. party.
To win an election in the UK you have to win over the central ground luckily in the UK there are to few nutters of either hard left or right to be able to form a government and it would appear that Labour are not prepared to do this.

Winseer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcuoEVcsLcs

(Warning: Contains Swearing, Leftie Tears, and Mild Peril.)

You ignore the far Left AND Far Right, and when the time comes that they preciptate the violence already threatened - you stamp on it HARD.

The Tories - may well be getting their “Law & Order” Mojo back in the near future…

Surely the days are numbered for these hateful protestors like the woman @ 5m50sec in on the video…

Jesus, imagine waking up next to that every morning.