Winseer:
The bottom line of all this - “Do we need to be ruled by Lies or Bribes?”The Tories are seemingly unpopular (enough to keep hanging on as Government!) because they are to blamed for Austerity, if one listens to the narrative. In fact the Austerity is because we don’t have as much money for public spending as we would do if we didn’t have the EU contributions millstone around our neck. All this rubbish about “For every pound we give the EU, they give a Liberal Left project as much as 38p for their cause” (whilst Law & Order and Military funding - get bugger all out of that “rebate”)
The bottom line is if you hand over a quid, and you get back 38p - EVEN IF THAT ALL GOES TO YOU AND YOURS - we, as a country - are still 62p in the pound WORSE off. The money was ours to start with - and we’ve given it away.
The EU clearly cannot rule the UK better than we can ourselves, otherwise there would be extensive funding for our NHS, Police, and Military - paid for out of central EU command to “Keep the Peace”, and “Process/Look after our people we’ve sent you”. Instead, we’ve got a general break-down in law and order that Boris Johnson’s new “Right Wing Cabinet” is bang on the money in cracking down upon “Making criminals fear committing crimes” - Sounds like a PLAN to me!
If we had a “Socialist” government now take over (as happened in Greece, and more recently Spain) - then what changes? - NOTHING. The EU says “We want our pound of flesh before you even get to spend any money keeping your electoral promises of handouts to the masses…” Thus, Tsipras ended up breaking his country upon the altar of the “unbendable EU rule” ticket. If they’d still been on Drachma - they could have printed their way out of it, and encouraged more tourism to redress that foreign exchange defecit that normally results from the “usual” fiat money policy. These days, the ECB prints plenty of FIat cash of it’s own - but ONLY to bail out their own buddies among the banking system and other oligarchary. “Sorry Bud, there’s no money” - even for the socialist factions that have long supported the EU project. I’m scratching my head as to how the EU still has as much support among the masses as it does?!
^ This.
Also don’t forget the trade deficit to add to the contribution bill.
Which leaves the question were Benn,Shore,Heffer and Hoey all really Socialists in that regard or patriotic Nationalists.Proof that ‘Labour’ doesn’t have to mean Socialist as opposed to Tory by definition means Federalist. 