Kelvin McKenzy.....says it all

Prick.

The Brexiteers are sobering up.

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For those of us who don’t usually read the type of publication Kelvin McKenzy contributes to can you give a summary of what he is saying, or even a link please?

I’m guessing he means this:

theguardian.com/media/mediam … xit-u-turn

I just can’t understand why all these remain voters don’t just ■■■■ off too France , Germany and give the rest some peace

the nodding donkey:
The Brexiteers are sobering up.

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No idea what you’re on about. If you’re blabbering on about the mouth breathers panicking about the value of the GBP, Gilts and the FTSE I’m not remotely worried. For anyone who has actually invested in the stock market this was not unexpected. Bad news things go down, good news things go up. We had the referendum result and the market dropped but by the end of the day it recovered to a 6 month high because Mark Carney stood at a plinth and said some words, nothing else. Then we had a bit more news from some EU politicians and it went down, George Osborne stood at a plinth and said some words and it went back up again.

Looking at it on a daily or less basis is what you do if you’re a shorter or stupid. If you’re wanting a true indication of the economy you look at it over an extended period of time. We have several countries who are queuing up to negotiate their own free trade agreement with us which they currently can’t whilst we’re members of the EU. If its still in the same position in 6 months time once things are finally decided about the timescale of negotiations and what is going to be negotiated then I’ll start to worry. Until then I’m not even remotely interested other than seeing where I can make a quick bob or two.

Anyway two things:

  1. A lower value GBP means that stuff we make is cheaper to the rest of the world which increases our exports, grows our manufacturing sector and improves the balance of payments so its a good thing.

  2. A lowering in the value of 10 year bonds and gilts means borrowing is cheaper for the government. Currently the level of bonds and guilts is the lowest since records began in the 1700s. This also means that the government can borrow money at the cheapest price that it has been able to since records began in 1731. The UK would actually be better off if it maxed out its borrowing now.

I notice on the news Branson who was pro-Remain is still continuing project fear. He’s bleating on about how his company has lost a third of its value and he claims cancelled a contract that would have meant 3000 jobs because of that. What an absolute lie - that wasn’t the reason at all assuming there was actually a contract to cancel and if there was and he has then that is likely what hit his share value.
Until you realise the shares, i.e you sell them, you’ve lost nothing. His company hasn’t seen 1/3 of its bank account disappear. Branson should know better but he’s like the rest of the Remain camp when it comes to the economy, all of them except Alex Salmond who said that it was absolutely unforgivable and deplorable the way the Remain camp had gone on about the economy.

Nothing more to add really, Conor pretty much nailed it with that one post.
So far I’ve only seen sour grapes from Remain voters as they jump all over and try to spin any news story which is quite sad to see in all honesty!

dozy:
I just can’t understand why all these remain voters don’t just [zb] off too France , Germany and give the rest some peace

+1

Mostly a bunch of indoctrinated Socialist Bolshevik zb wits taking the country down the path to an inevitable secessionist and inter ethnic Yugoslav type war.Bearing in mind that they are probably too scared to go because of the inconvenient matter of what they might find when they get there,in the form of the FN and AfD. :imp:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138520&start=960#p2183109

Rentadent:
Nothing more to add really, Conor pretty much nailed it with that one post.
So far I’ve only seen sour grapes from Remain voters as they jump all over and try to spin any news story which is quite sad to see in all honesty!

Also conveniently forgetting the fact that the Europhiles took us from a prosperous independent Nation and EFTA member into the zb EEC/EU resulting in Callaghan having to go running to the IMF for Greek type bail out within less than 5 years of us joining the scam.With an economy going down the tubes ever since.

On that note how difficult can it be to invoke article 50,rejoin EFTA and tell the EU that all existing trade relationships stand,except for the right to fix our massive trade deficit with the place,unless they really want an all out trade war.

Instead of which we’ve got these remain Bolshevik zb’s wanting to overturn a democratic vote and the bankers putting us under economic sanctions for daring to tell Juncker to shove his Federal zb pile. :imp: :imp:

Conor:
I notice on the news Branson who was pro-Remain is still continuing project fear. He’s bleating on about how his company has lost a third of its value and he claims cancelled a contract that would have meant 3000 jobs because of that.

This sums up the whole project fear running up to the referendum. The can’t say “I’m going to lose a ■■■■ load in the short term” because we’d say “boo ■■■■■■■ hoo”. So they have to say it’s us that were going to lose our money :smiling_imp:

The biggest gobsh1te to ever walk the face of the earth.

Farage for PM I say :wink:
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e … m-36648664

Scroll down about half way…

Baggie:
Farage for PM I say :wink:
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e … m-36648664

Scroll down about half way…

“…virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives…” ■■■■■■■ brilliant. Watched it live and been chuckling all day.

dozy:
I just can’t understand why all these remain voters don’t just [zb] off too France , Germany and give the rest some peace

plenty room in Scotland. :grimacing:

Should I be worried - for a minute then I’m sure Dozy, Conor and Carryfast all made 100% absolute sense and in the same thread! Gotta go lay down. :open_mouth:

Anyway, anyone called Kelvin probably attended the same schools as Dodgy Dave, so was hoping to ride the same EU gravy train as him and most other Eton-ites. Ah well, boo hoo, so their shares crumpled a little.