Saving our industry!

Hi to all

The vast majority of us are inteligent people!
I have been involved in uk and internationl road transport since 1975.
My Dad was an o/d then ran 5 trucks around Europe then jumped back in the saddle till 1981. I started off in 1990 after passing my cpc and truck test and using his old contacts. I eventually ended up doing Yugo and Turkey.
Such a lot has happended in our Industry over the years and i am trying to put some good back in. I NEED YOU as well to do it.!!!
I did a whole weekend working out figures what the foreign driver COULD earn our country (GB) every year.
I think very a conservative figure of around £500 million per ann.

CHARGING ANY GOODS VEHICLE A TRANSIT TAX FROM THE POINT THEY ENTER OUR COUNTRY
STOP ALL DEFECTED VECHILES AND TRAILERS AT THE PORT
INTRODUCE A DERV LEVY LIKE THE GERMANS USED TO WITH A TANKSHEIN
CHECK EVERY ONES TACHO /DIGI CARD (DRIVERS HOURS) ARE ALL OK TO CARRY ON WITH THERE JOURNEY
MAKING SURE ALL DRIVERS COMMING OVER ARE ENTILTED TO DRIVE THESE VEHICLES ON OUR ROADS

This could be managed by independant persons they could park up vehicles in our ports until everything has been rectified, a charge per hour at the ports,using our commercial technicians to carry out repairs.Our country will get the funding to repair our roads.they would have to put british diesal in at our pumps.
If they wont play ball and use British traction to get there loads tipped, then its work for a few more companys.
HELP ME on this and i am sure we will find many answers!
come on lets go to work!
Yours Tim

It’s been suggested before and discounted by our government, aqpparantly they don’t want to upset our european friends. Just another example of our government shafting british workers.

The powers that be dont want to do anything about it, water ,electric ,nuclear, railways you name it and it has been sold. The industry has been sold and now with this latest pantomime in the construction industry they are selling our jobs, make no mistake this is only the start,i do think they got a shock with the fuel protest ,I remember prescott saying this lot will not stick together,had it not been for this this industry would have been well on the way down the pan, remember 5000 road tax for an artic was it 4400 an eight wheeler,Labour will go down in history as most incompitent, sad thing is the other lot are as bad ,fuel escalator comes to mind,it is to late mate

I agree with everything said so far, I am sure that many more will also agree. :cry:

All seems to be common sense to me. There just isnt the political will to do anything about it!

Wasnt there a story recently about North Wales police not stopping foreigners on the A55 on the way to Hollyhead incase they all started using Liverpool instead? Its obvious many foreign registered trucks run bent to make the ferry but in this case money won over road safety.

We’ve seen it all before. Early nineties Thatcher Tory party started the boom and bust cycle, smashing industry from car plants to coal mines. All they were interested in was stocks and shares and money markets . Sold off all the council houses, water companies , gas companies, and made all the builders self-employed and the road haulage all sub-contractors undercutting each other left right and centre. Well you can only under cut so much before the bottom drops out. By the way I do not surport Labour.

Not sure sure on the rest of it, but this one seems a must…

TIMBO:
CHARGING ANY GOODS VEHICLE A TRANSIT TAX FROM THE POINT THEY ENTER OUR COUNTRY

If the current concencus is that road charging is a way forward to reduce congestion in this overcrowded little island then lets start with the stuff that doesn’t have to be here.

If the current concencus is that road charging is a way forward to reduce congestion in this overcrowded little island then lets start with the stuff that doesn’t have to be here.

spot on that. :wink:

Hi
The only thing you mention that could possibly work would be the transit tax. It wouldnt cost billions to set up the system and would start earning money very quickly.

All the other ideas you have are just not physically possible with the system we have in place. Underfunded and understaffed…can you imagine the chaos at ports if EVERY single truck was stopped for all those checks?

miketdt:
We’ve seen it all before. Early nineties Thatcher Tory party started the boom and bust cycle, smashing industry from car plants to coal mines. All they were interested in was stocks and shares and money markets . Sold off all the council houses, water companies , gas companies, and made all the builders self-employed and the road haulage all sub-contractors undercutting each other left right and centre. Well you can only under cut so much before the bottom drops out. By the way I do not surport Labour.

We saw it all long before that. Builders have been self-employed, and hauliers have undercut each other, since horse and cart days for God’s sake. The nationalised coal industry was a dead duck, every ton of coal mined was paid for twice by taxpayers’ subsidies; the utilities were notorious for chronic inefficiency which again was paid for by you and me.

The post-war Labour government ( far more socialist-leaning than the current one) nationalised road haulage; that proved to be a duff idea so the Tories privatised it again, giving us the so-called “golden years” of road haulage that many hark back to.

Specsavers don’t do rose-tinted mate, but if they ever do I should get yourself down there.

MacDoog:
Hi
The only thing you mention that could possibly work would be the transit tax. It wouldnt cost billions to set up the system and would start earning money very quickly.

All the other ideas you have are just not physically possible with the system we have in place. Underfunded and understaffed…can you imagine the chaos at ports if EVERY single truck was stopped for all those checks?

hi
keep it simple a few lap tops do a mileage check and you owe £…!
problem with all of us we complicate things and issues.
afterall we all singing from the same hymn sheet and also know whats right from wrong.
KEEP IT SIMPLE, may be slow to start with but once its up and running it will be fine!
thanks Tim

We have most of the technology to enforce this through the ANPR system checking our road tax and insurance, make them register details before entering either online or at ports, and set up a vignette permit style like Hungary for example, with checks at border control entering and leaving as they check all passports etc already.

With the amount of surveilance in this country the network is already in place to enforce this as an example the London congestion charge zone.

Iain :sunglasses: