PDCPC Periodic (ongoing) Driver CPC

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OK folks, I would suggest that this is taken as an IDEA of what MAY be included in the PDCPC
Sorry, it’s a bit long and plenty of scrolling is needed…

Info obtained from www.drivercpc-periodictraining.org

TRAINING CENTRE SEARCH LINK

**[u]PDCPC[/u]** **[u]Periodic (ongoing) Driver Certificate of Professional Competence[/u]**

Skills for Logistics July 2008

WHAT IS PERIODIC (ongoing) TRAINING? - see next post in this thread.
For those newbies about to take their first LGV licence click this link - INITIAL DRIVER CPC

Planning for Periodic Training (Objectives)

The Directive Syllabus
List of subjects

The knowledge to be taken into account by Member States when establishing the driver’s initial qualification and periodic training must include at least the subjects in this list. Trainee drivers must reach the level of knowledge and practical competence necessary to drive in all vehicles of the relevant licence category.

1. Advanced training in rational driving based on safety regulations

All licences

1.1. Objective: to know the characteristics of the transmission system in order to make the best possible use of it: -
Curves relating to torque, power, and specific consumption of an engine, area of optimum use of revolution counter, gearbox-ratio cover diagrams.

1.2. Objective: to know the technical characteristics and operation of the safety controls in order to control the vehicle, minimise wear and tear and prevent disfunctioning: -
Specific features of hydraulic vacuum servo brake circuit, limits to the use of brakes and retarder, combined use of brakes and retarder, making better use of speed and gear ratio, making use of vehicle inertia, using ways of slowing down and braking on downhill stretches, action in the event of failure.
1.3. Objective: ability to optimise fuel consumption: -
Optimisation of fuel consumption by applying know-how as regards points 1.1 and 1.2.

Licences C, C+E, C1, C1+E

1.4. Objective: ability to load the vehicle with due regard for safety rules and proper vehicle use: -
Forces affecting vehicles in motion, use of gearbox ratios according to vehicle load and road profile, calculation of payload of vehicle or assembly, calculation of total volume, load distribution, consequences of overloading the axle, vehicle stability and centre of gravity, types of packaging and pallets; main categories of goods needing securing, clamping and securing techniques, use of securing straps, checking of securing devices, use of handling equipment, placing and removal of tarpaulins.

Licences D, D+E, D1, D1+E

1.5. Objective: ability to ensure passenger comfort and safety: -
Adjusting longitudinal and sideways movements, road sharing, position on the road, smooth braking, overhang operation, using specific infrastructures (public areas, dedicated lanes), managing conflicts between safe driving and other roles as a driver, interacting with passengers, peculiarities of certain groups of passengers (disabled persons, children).

1.6. Objective: ability to load the vehicle with due regard for safety rules and proper vehicle use: -
Forces affecting vehicles in motion, use of gearbox-ratios according to vehicle load and road profile, calculation of payload of vehicle or assembly, load distribution, consequences of overloading the axle, vehicle stability and centre of gravity.

2. Application of regulations

All licences

2.1. Objective: to know the social environment of road transport and the rules governing it: -
Maximum working periods specific to the transport industry; principles, application and consequences of Regulations EC No 561/2006; penalties for failure to use, improper use of and tampering with the tachograph; knowledge of the social environment of road transport: rights and duties of driver s as regards initial qualification and periodic training.

Licences C, C+E, C1, C1+E

2.2. Objective: to know the regulations governing the carriage of goods: -
Transport operating licences, obligations under standard contracts for the carriage of goods, drafting of documents which form the transport contract, international transport permits, obligations under the Convention on the Contract for the International Carriage of Goods by Road, drafting of the international consignment note, crossing borders, freight forwarders, special documents accompanying goods.

Licences D, D+E, D1, D1+E

2.3. Objective: to know the regulations governing the carriage of passengers: -
Carriage of specific groups of passengers, safety equipment on board buses, safety belts, vehicle load.

3. Health, road and environmental safety, service, logistics

All licences

3.1. Objective: to make drivers aware of the risks of the road and of accidents at work: -
Types of accidents at work in the transport sector, road accident statistics, and involvement of lorries/coaches, human, material and financial consequences.

3.2. Objective: ability to prevent criminality and trafficking in illegal immigrants: -
General information, implications for drivers, preventive measures, check list, legislation on transport operator liability.

3.3. Objective: ability to prevent physical risks: -
Ergonomic principles; movements and postures, which pose a risk, physical fitness, handling exercises, personal protection.

3.4. Objective: awareness of the importance of physical and mental ability: -
Principles of healthy, balanced eating, effects of alcohol, drugs or any other substance likely to affect behaviour, symptoms, causes, effects of fatigue and stress, fundamental role of the basic work/rest cycle.

3.5. Objective: ability to assess emergency situations: -
Behaviour in an emergency situation: assessment of the situation, avoiding complications of an accident, summoning assistance, assisting casualties and giving first aid, reaction in the event of fire, evacuation of occupants of a lorry/bus passengers, ensuring the safety of all passengers, reaction in the event of aggression; basic principles for the drafting of an accident report.

3.6. Objective: ability to adopt behaviour to help enhance the image of the company: -
Behaviour of the driver and company image: importance for the company the standard of service provided by the driver, the roles of the driver, people with whom the driver will be dealing, vehicle maintenance, work organisation, commercial and financial effects of a dispute.

Licences C, C+E, C1, C1+E

3.7. Objective: to know the economic environment of road haulage and the organisation of the market: -
Road transport in relation to other modes of transport (competition, shippers), different road transport activities (transport for hire or reward, own account, auxiliary transport activities), organisation of the main types of Transport Company and auxiliary transport activities, different transport specialisations (road tanker, controlled temperature, etc.), changes in the industry (diversification of services provided, rail-road, subcontracting, etc.).

Licences D, D+E, D1, D1+E

3.8. Objective: to know the economic environment of the carriage of passengers by road and the organisation of the market: -
Carriage of passengers by road in relation to other modes of passenger transport (rail, private car), different activities involving the carriage of passengers by road, crossing borders (international transport), organisation of the main types of companies for the carriage of passengers by road.

26 November 2008
Driver CPC requires you to complete a minimum of 35 hours of periodic training during every five year cycle for as long as you wish to continue driving professionally.
35 hours periodic training must be completed within five years of the issue date of the Driver Qualification Card (DQC). If 35 hours training is not completed by the expiry date of the DQC the driver cannot drive professionally and must do the full 35 hours training from the expiry date before regaining CPC.
Any periodic training taken before the end of the five years is discounted. The driver must begin training again.
Mr Brian Cater
Customer Enquiry Unit
Driving Standards Agency

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Joint Approvals Unit for Periodic Training
12 Warren Yard
Warren Farm Office Village
Milton Keynes
MK12 5NW
T 0844 800 4184

enquiries@drivercpc-periodictraining.org
www.drivercpc-periodictraining.org

April 2008

WHAT IS PERIODIC (ongoing) TRAINING?

This will affect all professional LGV and PCV drivers. For new drivers it introduces a new initial qualification, the Initial Driver Certificate of Professional Competence, which increases the amount of knowledge that drivers need before they can drive. The initial qualification includes a four-hour theory test and a two hour driving and practical test, when combined with licence acquisition tests.

All drivers, new and existing, will then have to undertake 35 hours of training every five years to ensure that their Driver CPC is current. This is known as Periodic (ongoing) Training.
Periodic (ongoing) Training is designed to confirm and expand on the existing knowledge and skills of each driver to ensure that they continue to be safe, courteous and fuel-efficient drivers.

This will also enable drivers to keep up to date with ever changing regulations and to benefit from training throughout their whole career.

This Directive will become effective from 10 September 2008 for the PCV sector and from 10 September 2009 for the LGV sector.

How much training is required?
All drivers must undertake 35 hours of training in every five year period.

  • Length of Course
    Training courses can be of any length as long as they are a minimum of seven hours. This means that operators can provide one-day courses or longer programmes if they wish. If operators choose to offer seven-hour courses, these can be split into two delivery sessions as long as the second session starts within 24 hours of the completion of the first session.

How is it delivered?
A course is a coherent programme of learning of at least seven hours which has been approved by the JAUPT on behalf of the Competent Authority and which is delivered by an approved training centre. The seven hours excludes any breaks; only direct training and contact time (time with a trainer) count towards the Periodic Training requirement. Periodic Training is designed to improve the knowledge of the driver. There are no tests or exams involved but training centres will be required to evaluate each course to ensure that those attending have benefited from the training that they have received.

WHO IS AFECTED BY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PERIODIC TRAINING?

Existing Drivers (PCV)
All professional PCV drivers who hold a full, valid category D, D1, D+E or D1+E licence at 10 September 2008 will need to complete the 35 hours of periodic training by the 10 September 2013, unless exempt. (See below for exemptions.)
After this, they will need to undertake a further 35 hours of training in every subsequent five-year period in order to retain their Driver CPC.

Existing Drivers (LGV)
All professional LGV drivers who hold a full, valid category C, C1, C+E or C1+E licence at 10 September 2009 will need to complete the 35 hours of periodic training by the 10 September 2014, unless exempt. (See below for exemptions.)
This also includes drivers who hold C1 entitlement by virtue of passing a car test pre 1997.
After this, they will need to undertake a further 35 hours of training in every subsequent five-year period in order to retain their Driver CPC.

New Drivers
New Drivers who gain their initial Driver CPC after 10 September 2008 (PCV) or 10 September 2009 (LGV) will immediately begin their cycle of periodic training and will need to complete 35 hours of training within five years of attaining their initial Driver CPC.
After this, they will need to undertake a further 35 hours of training in every subsequent five-year period in order to retain their Driver CPC.

Drivers who hold both a PCV and LGV licence
Drivers with both a PCV and LGV licence will have to complete only one course of 35 hours of Periodic Training every five years; they will not have to undertake 35 hours of training for each licence category.
Drivers with LGV/PCV licence from other countries
Periodic Training must be completed in the country of employment or residence. Drivers from other countries, who are based in the UK, can undertake Periodic Training in the UK if residing here for longer than 6 months in a calendar year. Training completed in another EU state will count towards Periodic Training in the UK.

Exemptions
Drivers are not required to hold a Driver CPC if the vehicle they drive is:

  • Not authorised to exceed 45 kph.
  • Being used by or under the instructions of the armed forces, the police or a fire and rescue authority.
  • Undergoing road tests for technical development repair or for maintenance purposes.
  • Being used in a state of emergency or as part of a rescue mission.
  • Being used for driving lessons for either driving licence or Driver CPC purposes.
  • Not being used to carry passengers or goods for commercial purposes.
  • Carrying materials or equipment for the driver’s work, where driving is not the driver’s principal activity.

In GB a central record of training undertaken by drivers will be held by the DSA. This Driver Recording Database will inform the DVLA when a Driver Qualification Card should be issued and renewed. NI will use the same database as GB and DVLA will issue and renew the Driver Qualification Card, on completion of 35 hours of approved training.

The Driver
Drivers are responsible for ensuring that they have undertaken sufficient periodic training hours by the relevant date to maintain their Driver CPC. Drivers will have access to the driver-recording database to check on their progress throughout the period.

The Employer
The employer must not knowingly allow someone to drive professionally without a Driver CPC. Employers will be able to access the driver-recording database with the permission of the driver.

Planning for Periodic Training

There is a great deal of flexibility around Periodic Training including:

  • Course Content
    Training courses can cover any relevant subject that has a link to the syllabus used for initial training. Examples of possible courses based on the Directive include subjects such as defensive driving, customer service, manual handling, company induction programmes and annual refresher courses.

  • Annual Commitment
    The 35 hours of training is completed over a five year period so operators can choose how much training should be completed each year for an individual driver

E.g. operators could choose to provide one day of training per year or to provide all 35 hours in one week.

  • Training for Individual Drivers
    Operators can provide different training courses for different drivers depending on their particular needs e.g. new drivers will need different courses from more experienced drivers.

The flexibility means that operators are free to determine the best approach for their business. Operators can identify the training that will be most useful for their own organisation. For many operators, this means that they can draw on existing programmes and build on training that is already being delivered or planned. Operators can also decide the best time to provide the training e.g. at quieter periods of the year.

Skills for Logistics recommends that: -

  • Operators identify the training that will improve the professional performance of their drivers and benefit their business
  • Operators build on existing training and good practice in their business
  • Operators provide seven hours of training for each driver each year.

This will help to spread the cost of the training whilst also enabling each driver to undertake some professional development each year.

A note of warning: Operators could choose to leave all of the training for their existing drivers until 2014. Skills for Logistics strongly recommends against this. There is limited training supply for the sector, and if there is a large demand at the last minute this is likely to drive up the costs of training.

Options for Providing Periodic Training

Operators need to ensure that any training course provided is approved as periodic training and is delivered through an approved centre. If this is not the case then no credit will be given for the training undertaken.

How to find information on approved training centres and courses

Skills for Logistics’ team of Regional/National Managers (please see contact details below) will be able to assist operators in identifying approved training centres and courses.

A full list of approved training centres and courses is available on the website of the Joint
Approvals Unit for Periodic Training www.drivercpc-periodictraining.org
enquiries@drivercpc-periodictraining.org Tel: 0844 800 4184. This website is updated regularly and provides information on approved training providers at region/nation level.
The website also includes information on how to become an approved centre.

SfL Contacts

Skills for Logistics Regional/National Managers

Name Nation/Region Email Mobile

South East
Robert James
robert.james@skillsforlogistics.org
07775 910906

West Midlands
James Billingham
james.billingham@skillsforlogistics.org
07841 995401

Wales
Stephen Kennedy
stephen.kennedy@skillsforlogistics.org
07525 803042

North East
Alan Smith
alan.smith@skillsforlogistics.org
07766 408874

East of England
Daryl Keyworth
daryl.keyworth@skillsforlogistics.org
07912 895655

North West
Chris Fylan
chris.fylan@skillsforlogistics.org
07795 348584

South West
Michael Woodgate
michael.woodgate@skillsforlogistics.org
07788 574311

East Midlands
Serena Rowland
serena.rowland@skillsforlogistics.org
07766 408968

Yorkshire & Humberside
David Orrell
david.orrell@skillsforlogistics.org
07780 954400

London
Tony Bellia
tony.bellia@skillsforlogistics.org
07766 730666

Scotland
Chris Campbell
chris.campbell@skillsforlogistics.org
07795 348585

Northern Ireland
Geraldine Quinn
geraldine.quinn@skillsforlogistics.org
07912 097386

Further information on the Driver CPC is available on the Skills for Logistics website —
www.skillsforlogistics.org
Tel: 01908 313360.

Information on Driver CPC is also available from the Driving Standards Agency
www.transportoffice.gov.uk/cpc
drivercpc@dsa.gsi.gov.uk
Tel: 0300 2001122

oh god our training starts next month - ive been told its a buddle of laughs from our NRDC guys :frowning:

At least i’ll get a bit of shut eye :wink:

We should start our cpc course online ROG make a few quid :sunglasses:

merc0447:
oh god our training starts next month - ive been told its a buddle of laughs from our NRDC guys :frowning:

At least i’ll get a bit of shut eye :wink:

We should start our cpc course online ROG make a few quid :sunglasses:

Is that for the PCV, LGV or a general one that covers both :question: :question:

Keep us updated as I’m sure many will want to know exactly what is being done…

You make an online course for the DCPC and I’ll sign up now. Anyone who’s been in the industry for a couple of years will know half of that stuff already, what do we do with the rest of the time? Sit there looking bored, having paid for it■■? I can promise you at least half the drivers on here will end up paying themselves for this, and the prospect of paying good money to be told how to do stuff I know how to do already fills me with dread. “Use of gear ratios to efficiently drive and control speed”, I’ve got a flipping ASTronic! If it needs training to use the cogs right, it’s a workshop job, not a driver training thing… :unamused:
7 hours training a year, every year… spread the pain…

ROG:

merc0447:
oh god our training starts next month - ive been told its a buddle of laughs from our NRDC guys :frowning:

At least i’ll get a bit of shut eye :wink:

We should start our cpc course online ROG make a few quid :sunglasses:

Is that for the PCV, LGV or a general one that covers both :question: :question:

Keep us updated as I’m sure many will want to know exactly what is being done…

LGV ROG - i’ll keep you up to date, whooshwhoosh on this board has already done his training - they get everthing first but :laughing:

new canteen , new trucks , ■■■■ payroll staff

its not fair whooshwhoosh :smiley:

allikat:
You make an online course for the DCPC and I’ll sign up now. Anyone who’s been in the industry for a couple of years will know half of that stuff already, what do we do with the rest of the time? Sit there looking bored, having paid for it■■? I can promise you at least half the drivers on here will end up paying themselves for this, and the prospect of paying good money to be told how to do stuff I know how to do already fills me with dread. “Use of gear ratios to efficiently drive and control speed”, I’ve got a flipping ASTronic! If it needs training to use the cogs right, it’s a workshop job, not a driver training thing… :unamused:
7 hours training a year, every year… spread the pain…

just imagine an online course similair to what learndirect do, make it half the price of what peole are being quoted right now by these training companys - & someone could make a packet.

Glad my licence lapses in 5 years, :slight_smile:

Sayin that if my employer was payin i wouldn’t be as bothered :slight_smile: .

It must stick about £30-£40 a month on your running costs from today, just to cover downtime/lost earnings/course costs if your an owner operator.

Is it another way to squeeze costs out of hauliers ?

Does anyone know the figures,is it older more experienced drivers involved in more accidents who need extra training, or is it younger people.

Looking at a bit of the course content does a local haulier haulier like limestone cowboy need to know about illegal immigrant trafficking 3.2 , out of Derbyshire into yorkshire :open_mouth:

merc0447:
whooshwhoosh on this board has already done his training

I did not know that the PDCPC courses had already started - maybe whooshwhoosh could give us some idea of what it consisted of…

My licence is up for renewal again in 3 years, dont think I’ll bother to renew it unless the government are going to pay.

Tiger.

Fastrantiger:
My licence is up for renewal again in 3 years, dont think I’ll bother to renew it unless the government are going to pay.

Tiger.

The PDCPC and the Licence are 2 different issues.

The Licence is the entitlement to drive a certain vehicle

The PDCPC allows the licence holder to drive the vehicle for ‘Hire or Reward’

Some might argue - what is the point of having the Licence if it cannot be used for a paid job - good point :exclamation:

ROG:
The PDCPC allows the licence holder to drive the vehicle for ‘Hire or Reward’

Some might argue - what is the point of having the Licence if it cannot be used for a paid job - good point :exclamation:

That was my point Rog, I didn’t make it very clear. There’s no guarantee that we’ll all be gainfully employed in 2014, older drivers like myself are not going to pay for such training and what employer would pay for someone thats 5 years from retirement for example?. The answer is that they wont pay and I dont blame them. And as you say “what is the point of having the Licence if it cannot be used for a paid job” , so no I will not renew my licence without the PDCPC.

Tiger

But what’s the point you’re trying to make ROG ?

The required content of the Driver CPC training has been known about for some considerable time now, and as far as I can see the content of nearly the whole of those two posts has been posted by various people and discussed before on several occasions :confused:

speedyguy:
Glad my licence lapses in 5 years, :slight_smile:

Sayin that if my employer was payin i wouldn’t be as bothered :slight_smile: .

It must stick about £30-£40 a month on your running costs from today, just to cover downtime/lost earnings/course costs if your an owner operator.

Is it another way to squeeze costs out of hauliers ?

Does anyone know the figures,is it older more experienced drivers involved in more accidents who need extra training, or is it younger people.

Looking at a bit of the course content does a local haulier haulier like limestone cowboy need to know about illegal immigrant trafficking 3.2 , out of Derbyshire into yorkshire :open_mouth:

Thought it was the other way round

Yorkshire to Derbyshire :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

tachograph:
But what’s the point you’re trying to make ROG ?

The required content of the Driver CPC training has been known about for some considerable time now, and as far as I can see the content of nearly the whole of those two posts has been posted by various people and discussed before on several occasions :confused:

No point - just that the PCV PDCPC has started and this seems to be the lastest info, some of which SFL had on a Trainers PDF which has now ‘disappeared’ after it was brought to their attention that it was in public view - why did they not want joe public to see it? - I don’t know.

I have had a number of PMs regarding ‘WHAT’ the courses will entail so, using al the info I could find has resulted in the post.

As stated at the top of the post - this is not set in stone and perhaps never will be as each course is supposed to be tailored for the specific needs of the driver.

My guess is that there will be mainly courses that cover the above material listed and that a small portion of the 35 hours will be specifically for the job that the driver does - but that’s just my guess on this.

Fastrantiger:

ROG:
The PDCPC allows the licence holder to drive the vehicle for ‘Hire or Reward’

Some might argue - what is the point of having the Licence if it cannot be used for a paid job - good point :exclamation:

That was my point Rog, I didn’t make it very clear. There’s no guarantee that we’ll all be gainfully employed in 2014, older drivers like myself are not going to pay for such training and what employer would pay for someone thats 5 years from retirement for example?. The answer is that they wont pay and I dont blame them. And as you say “what is the point of having the Licence if it cannot be used for a paid job” , so no I will not renew my licence without the PDCPC.

Tiger

I wonder how many more are thinking the same…

merc0447:

ROG:

merc0447:
oh god our training starts next month - ive been told its a buddle of laughs from our NRDC guys :frowning:

At least i’ll get a bit of shut eye :wink:

We should start our cpc course online ROG make a few quid :sunglasses:

Is that for the PCV, LGV or a general one that covers both :question: :question:

Keep us updated as I’m sure many will want to know exactly what is being done…

LGV ROG - i’ll keep you up to date, whooshwhoosh on this board has already done his training - they get everthing first but :laughing:

new canteen , new trucks , ■■■■ payroll staff

its not fair whooshwhoosh :smiley:

:open_mouth: whoa there driver! canteen=lick o paint and uncomfier chairs…unlike yr leatherette couches?new trucks?same age as yrs,eventually the new ones are goin to be the same bag oaxors! no ■■■■ wages staff…but hr? :laughing:
the training is the same crap theyve been spoutin for years,if u dont know it,you shouldnt have passed yr test!its not the cpc training as yet :smiley:

( you know the rules if it needs # it aint allowed but 10/10 for trying ) jd

whooshwhoosh:

merc0447:

ROG:

merc0447:
oh god our training starts next month - ive been told its a buddle of laughs from our NRDC guys :frowning:

At least i’ll get a bit of shut eye :wink:

We should start our cpc course online ROG make a few quid :sunglasses:

Is that for the PCV, LGV or a general one that covers both :question: :question:

Keep us updated as I’m sure many will want to know exactly what is being done…

LGV ROG - i’ll keep you up to date, whooshwhoosh on this board has already done his training - they get everthing first but :laughing:

new canteen , new trucks , ■■■■ payroll staff

its not fair whooshwhoosh :smiley:

:open_mouth: whoa there driver! canteen=lick o paint and uncomfier chairs…unlike yr leatherette couches?new trucks?same age as yrs,eventually the new ones are goin to be the same bag o axors! no ■■■■ wages staff…but hr? :laughing:
the training is the same crap theyve been spoutin for years,if u dont know it,you shouldnt have passed yr test!its not the cpc training as yet :smiley:

never mind our couches have you seen the size of our tele :astonished: what a life our nightshift warehouse have :unamused:

i thought Claire was payroll - she is the only reason i got to the meetings - i’ll need to start listening from now on :laughing:

( language dodge from quote removed. ) jd

Ive yet to do my PCV CPC and they expect us to go in our rest day to do it - I dont think so, if they want me to do it, then take me off the road to do it… :imp:
Funnily enough, I overtook a bus load of drivers on their CPC assesment drive, them in their 50mph if you’re lucky Dennis Dart and me in my 65mph Volvo B10M… :laughing:

So then Rog…

If I am reading this right its is purely an attendance thing?

If this is right then why the ■■■■ do we need to pay (possibly) over a grand to sit in a class room for a full week (effectively) and get our heads down? If that is the case I will be doing the course but counting 2 days of it as a weekly rest.

Yet again it is just another way of taxing the hard working people of Britain. I bet if I was from Iran or Afghanistan I could it paid for by the local job centre/government… :wink:

It just makes me sick and I am seriously thinking about waving goodbye to my £2500 I have spent in the last 12 months to get my licence. The industry is on its knees at the minute and the government is doing ■■■■ all about it. At the moment even people that have been driving for 17 years, if not longer, cant find a job so us newbies have very little chance. In 5 years time when we hopefully have got a job we will have to find over a grand to sit and listen to some 20 year old spotty kid that doesn’t even know what 5th wheel grease is let alone been up to his elbows in it telling us how to drive a wagon that he probably couldn’t even check was legal to drive.

Then when we have done the course we get yet another card to put in our wallet so that we can go to work legally (by the way who is going to pay for these cards? Is it the driver or are they included in the price of the course) but what if a driver comes across from some of the countries of less repute and doesn’t have his card? What will happen to him? Will he be parked up until he can buy one off the internet in his homeland? Or will he be forced to do the week course at UK inflated prices so he can have a card issued or will he be fined and then sent home again?

The idea of a periodic CPC just really winds me up. Do milkmen have to do one to learn how to deliver ilk. Will they be bringing it in for farmers and their workers? Because let’s be honest farm work can be a lot more dangerous (especially during the hay baling season) than driving a wagon? I don’t think so, so why the ■■■■ are we being penalised yet again

Rant over