Dessy, do you mean you get the night out allowance because you are away over night, even though you are working, not sleeping?
Driveroneuk:
Dessy, do you mean you get the night out allowance because you are away over night, even though you are working, not sleeping?
Sleeping Daytime pal as i’m a night Tramper. So turn off your Fridges especially at Michael Wood services you know who you are!!
jessicas dad:
i know i fully agree with you all on this…im on £100 an hour and wouldnt work for any less and anybody that does i think is a right mug
…yawn…
ffs change the bloody record, people work for what they can get in the area’s that they live in and the jobs that they want.
where can I sign for a job like that I wish in some years time I can be earning that kind of money ,what kind of work you do for that money ,I’m a newbie and I’ll be more than happy if a company gave me a break driving an artic for £8 ph.
Rosbergg:
jessicas dad:
i know i fully agree with you all on this…im on £100 an hour and wouldnt work for any less and anybody that does i think is a right mug
…yawn…
ffs change the bloody record, people work for what they can get in the area’s that they live in and the jobs that they want.
where can I sign for a job like that I wish in some years time I can be earning that kind of money ,what kind of work you do for that money ,I’m a newbie and I’ll be more than happy if a company gave me a break driving an artic for £8 ph.
alamcculloch:
I posted a reply a couple of days ago. The rate I was on 12 years back was £8.00 for class 2.Where is the progress.
12 years ago diesel was 50p per litre? insurance wasnt as high, vehicles weren’t as expensive to maintain, road tax and vat were low, how many foreign trucks did u count on our roads doing uk work for peanuts?
i’m so so so fed up with drivers whingeing about how much they dont earn and how they deserve a pay rise etc etc, put urself in ur bosses shoes, unless u work for stobart, wincanton , dhl etc ur boss is probably struggling harder than u imagine.
yes he may be in a flash car, but this is probably on credit and written off against tax!
IF U DONT LIKE WHAT U EARN CHANGE UR CAREER BECOME AN MP OR SOMETHING! BUT PLEASE CHANGE THE [zb] RECORD
Robsta:
12 years ago diesel was 50p per litre? insurance wasnt as high, vehicles weren’t as expensive to maintain, road tax and vat were low, how many foreign trucks did u count on our roads doing uk work for peanuts?i’m so so so fed up with drivers whingeing about how much they dont earn and how they deserve a pay rise etc etc, put urself in ur bosses shoes, unless u work for stobart, wincanton , dhl etc ur boss is probably struggling harder than u imagine.
yes he may be in a flash car, but this is probably on credit and written off against tax!IF U DONT LIKE WHAT U EARN CHANGE UR CAREER BECOME AN MP OR SOMETHING! BUT PLEASE CHANGE THE [zb] RECORD
See my signature for diesel prices 11 years ago.
Didn’t it used to cost £3500 to tax an artic then?
Capital cost can only be claimed against tax if you’re paying it. To be paying it, you need to be making a profit.
Driveroneuk:
Robsta:
12 years ago diesel was 50p per litre? insurance wasnt as high, vehicles weren’t as expensive to maintain, road tax and vat were low, how many foreign trucks did u count on our roads doing uk work for peanuts?i’m so so so fed up with drivers whingeing about how much they dont earn and how they deserve a pay rise etc etc, put urself in ur bosses shoes, unless u work for stobart, wincanton , dhl etc ur boss is probably struggling harder than u imagine.
yes he may be in a flash car, but this is probably on credit and written off against tax!IF U DONT LIKE WHAT U EARN CHANGE UR CAREER BECOME AN MP OR SOMETHING! BUT PLEASE CHANGE THE[zb] RECORD
See my signature for diesel prices 11 years ago.
Didn’t it used to cost £3500 to tax an artic then?
Capital cost can only be claimed against tax if you’re paying it. To be paying it, you need to be making a profit.
u missed the whole point of my post! things were alot cheaper to run 12 years ago! i wasnt making exact claims for the price of fuels etc, and where the tax is concerned i had a W reg 420 scania which i beleive had a certain emission certificate and it cos £850 per year to tax!
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money at ours is crap…£7.25 per hr and only o/time after 55 hrs but at least they pay us dinners.
Robsta:
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Good, because personal attacks are against the forum rules you agreed to when you joined.
Picked everyones brains but was never polite enough to come back and acknowledge all the helpful input:
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then this:
Thank you Robsta for your thoughtful and intelligent input. What other workers have had a pay freeze for the last 12 years.What encouragement has a young man got today to shell out in the region of £2500 to become a lorry driver.There are owner drivers are working for nothing in some cases ,why do they do this? I had a different career when I was a self employed taxi operator so many people thought they could tell me a rivals price for a job and expect me to undercut I just said its uneconomical get him to do it.
TTX boy:
money at ours is crap…£7.25 per hr and only o/time after 55 hrs but at least they pay us dinners.
was offered a job there couple of years ago but stayed on agency work which paid better .tm seemed a good guy but wages let it down
Hi Gezt,yea the tm is a ok guy but a lot of drivers are gonna leave has soon as things pickup on the jobs front.
Our company pays really well it seems compared to alot of you out there…
We get a minimum of £120 per night maximum of £160 depending on what job you do
2x RDC + a collection = £140 and tbh its rare we work over 12 hours
Aren’t night workers only supposed to do 10 hours?
Driveroneuk:
Aren’t night workers only supposed to do 10 hours?
If not opted out with a workforce agreement then they are restricted to 10 hours of WORK in a 24 hour period.
WORK is driving time + other work so breaks and POA do not count
i think the reality is wages generally wont change for a few years, maybe 2014 when they judge the shortage of drivers since they either choose not to complete cpc or carnt afford too, generally there is work but one has to realise the pay has suffered whether the bosses are using the recession as a blanket to pay less or they are actually struggling, the smaller operators are probably struggling and since these are usually the best to work for the drivers of these companies probably understand and would agree to a pay freeze. i no nightfreight of gloucester have actually took money off them 10% i think, needless to say they have lost about 5 drivers because of it, and more will follow.
hi guys.i have read this forum with interest.perhaps i have no right to comment as i have not lived in the uk for more than 30 years but would like to throw my two penneth in.when i took my hgv course in 1971 with r.t.i.t.b. in kelvedon i paid £200 pounds for the course out of my own pocket plus the test fee.after that i could only get jobs that paid a pittance as it was either,'you have no expierience,or,you’r under 25 so we have to pay extra insurance so we can’t pay full wages.as the years went on,i moved around.holland,canada.and now recentley to lappland.it seems everywhere,in transport you always have to fight for a decent wage.it has always been the case in transport that the only way to make money is,long hours,long distance,long time from home.or you have to do work that no one else can do,or will do.or a niche in the market.now it seems that everyone wants to stop drivers making the hours to make it possible to earn so the wages will remain low until there is a drastic shortage of drivers.this is the case up here in lappland and it is possible to work as much as you want to earn good money.[i must emphsasis that we work in a specialist field,and it is off road]but that is perhaps the only sort of work that will remain financially interesting for people.within europe the basic rate must change and the mentality towards drivers must change.we are a valuable cornerstone of society.at the moment when a driver steps into the cab he feels almost like a criminal wondering what will happen today,what havei done wrong,or forgotten that will cause me stress or cost me money.mike
hutpik:
hi guys.i have read this forum with interest.perhaps i have no right to comment as i have not lived in the uk for more than 30 years but would like to throw my two penneth in.when i took my hgv course in 1971 with r.t.i.t.b. in kelvedon i paid £200 pounds for the course out of my own pocket plus the test fee.after that i could only get jobs that paid a pittance as it was either,'you have no expierience,or,you’r under 25 so we have to pay extra insurance so we can’t pay full wages.as the years went on,i moved around.holland,canada.and now recentley to lappland.it seems everywhere,in transport you always have to fight for a decent wage.it has always been the case in transport that the only way to make money is,long hours,long distance,long time from home.or you have to do work that no one else can do,or will do.or a niche in the market.now it seems that everyone wants to stop drivers making the hours to make it possible to earn so the wages will remain low until there is a drastic shortage of drivers.this is the case up here in lappland and it is possible to work as much as you want to earn good money.[i must emphsasis that we work in a specialist field,and it is off road]but that is perhaps the only sort of work that will remain financially interesting for people.within europe the basic rate must change and the mentality towards drivers must change.we are a valuable cornerstone of society.at the moment when a driver steps into the cab he feels almost like a criminal wondering what will happen today,what havei done wrong,or forgotten that will cause me stress or cost me money.mike
Wow! That was one hell of a paragraph! 
Long but true and very good.