muckles:
nsmith1180:
Hi all,
Please save me from the temptation of a Renault!
In other words, please try and stop you letting your head rule your heart?
The Renault would offer the grunt, I also believe Renault will be selling the High cab version with RHD soon.
How many times have people written on here about new O/D’s going for the brand new, full spec flagship motors, then struggling to pay for it? Surely it would be better to get yourself established and then if you doing ok after 5 or 10 years treat yourself to a flagship motor.
I assume as you have a Demo truck it’s quite well specced, what sort of spec are they quoting you on, my recent experience of a 730 is that even a truck like that can be quite basic, unless the extras are specified.
Yes, basically the head says Renault and the heart says Scania. But, the backup with Scania is better if something goes wrong and it’s less likely to go wrong in the first place than with Renault. Then there is the thought that if I want to recruit and retain decent drivers, a Scania is a better bit of kit than a Renault, so the job will be a little bit easier.
The RHD T-High is coming but it will come at a £5k premium and there is no guarantee it will hold that value into the used market. I don’t think that with the T-Normal being the size that it is, that the T-High is money well spent. Until a few years down the line when I’m looking for a fleet flagship.
How many times have I written on here about O/d’s running ‘willy waving V8 Toplines’ and going pop because of it?? One of threethings has happened here; Either
A) my dislike of the old Scania has blinded me to the business case for running an old V8 Topline or
B) the performance of the new Euro6C 6IL 13l is so blunted that a new business case has opened up for running a V8 as a fleet motor or
C) I’m guilty of the same ‘Oh Shiny’ blindness I’ve previously accused others of.
In my defense I’m not proposing a V8 Flagship. I’m looking at the baby V8 purely on the torque output and driving characteristics. It was genuinely alarming how much the 450 struggled on the A34. I’m also not looking to spec the ■■■■ off the thing. I’d put on the driver pack, for the seat adjustment and DAB, the comfort pack for the fridge and extra storage, the safety and security packs because you don’t take chances with either of them and then a couple of chassis customisations;
Single big fuel tank, a safety measure and cost saver; Safety because passing the nozzle between tanks spills diesel on the catwalk creating a slip hazard and cost saver because if the ■■■■■■■■ do go after my diesel, there is less to repair after the fact. It would also let me go for the big AdBlue tank on the other side, because the demo unit drank like a sailor.
Uprated batteries: Because I have a fridge and a big inverter running and its better to go ott with the batteries than pay call outs when the driver runs it flat.
Inside the only options not added by a pack would be delete top bunk, specify rear shelf because you can never have too much storage in a lorry.
If the dealer chucked in a lighting pack to shift a stock unit I wouldn’t say no but its not important enough to me to pay for it.
The demo wasn’t actually overly specced. It was a standard spec normal roof 450 with comfort pack and nav. Everything else was as Eddie would buy it. If it wasn’t for the head room, and the lame donkey powering it, it would consider having that when the demo fleet was done with it.
el_presidente:
Punchy Dan:
Stuff the lez ,it wouldn’t matter how much the jobs paying who wants to go anywhere inside the m25 or even on it ,I’ve done more than my share of it, infact I don’t even want to go south unless it’s down the m5 .
What he said. 
A fair point but I’m not willing to turn away decent paying work because I don’t like the post code, not to mention the fact that with 27 clean air zones planned around the country, Euro 4 and Euro 5 are soon going to become unworkable.
el_presidente:
I see plenty on 4x2 fridge work which I just don’t get…
That I never understand. How much horsepower does it take to shift 26t pallets of carrots to Sainsbury’s?