Just seen it on another thread. Gorgeous!
The last model of Cottard in 1959/60 on Saviem JL 20.
So Anorak,
which European maker used the top grill on the club of four cab? Never seen one like it before.
Regards Steve
vwvanman0:
So Anorak,
which European maker used the top grill on the club of four cab? Never seen one like it before.Regards Steve
Could it be Renault? Mack made a French version of its artic using a Motor Panels cab. Just a thought… R
ERF-NGC-European:
vwvanman0:
So Anorak,
which European maker used the top grill on the club of four cab? Never seen one like it before.Regards Steve
Could it be Renault? Mack made a French version of its artic using a Motor Panels cab. Just a thought… R
Steve has already correctly identified Mack as the normal user of the upper grille panel. It is the non-Mack headlamps that are confusing the issue. I do not know which European maker used the upper grille panel. I will have a guess at the following:
- A military or off-road vehicle, possibly by DAF or Magirus.
- A European market Mack.
Right, I’m off to disprove my own guesswork. 
Or perhaps just a guy who “americanised” his Renault by gluing a piece of another Renault’s grille?
Berliet GPRK 10 6x2 fridge body from South West of France, payload was about 15 tons and semi-trailers were not so popular at this time.
Motor 6 cylinders 180 cv, gearbox ZF 6 gears.
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anorak:
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A precursor to Tractomas, or a one-off steelworks tug? Combi89, please tell the story.A one-off I reckon, I think Scheuerle had something similar especially designed for steelworks.
pv83:
Pubquiz question… what is it?
Saurer? Ro
Certainly a Renault, possibly built on a bus chassis c. 1935.
pv83:
I know it’s not a lorry, but bear with me… is this a Hotchkiss?
An American Cord, with what looks like a bespoke body by one of the european coachbuilders, at least from the A pillar back.
fodenway:
pv83:
I know it’s not a lorry, but bear with me… is this a Hotchkiss?An American Cord, with what looks like a bespoke body by one of the european coachbuilders, at least from the A pillar back.
Had a search on the net, seems to be a Cord indeed (never heard of it before), cheers for the heads up 
Froggy55:
Certainly a Renault, possibly built on a bus chassis c. 1935.
ERF-NGC-European:
pv83:
Pubquiz question… what is it?Saurer? Ro
I honestly haven’t got a clue, but thought it looked interesting enough to post it on here 
PV83:
I know it’s not a lorry, but bear with me… is this a Hotchkiss?
QUOTE: Fodenway » Thursday,2nd April, 2020 12:17 pm
PV83 wrote:
I know it’s not a lorry, but bear with me… is this a Hotchkiss?
An American Cord, with what looks like a bespoke body by one of the european coachbuilders, at least from the A pillar back.UNQUOTE.
TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Saviem’s Fan Club . Pages 271-272 . Mystery Motorcar . Thursday,2nd April,2020.
VALKYRIE
Hello PV83 
It’s a Cord… Talk about synchronicity! 
It just so happens that I’ve been doing a lot of
research on the American-built Cord marque of motorcar during the last few days …and then you come
up with two photographs of a 1937 Cord 812
As can be seen,the Cord 810 and 812 models had delightfully unusual,striking and beautiful styling,complete with
airfoil headlamps,front wheel drive,aeroplane dial instrumentation and an electric pre-selector 4-speed gearbox.
These cars were made for the 1936 model year as a 810 and the 1937 model year as a 812;there were no differences
in the cars for these model years apart from the fact that a supercharged version was offered in 1937,signified by
exposed exhaust pipes.As to what model name it had - Westchester or Beverly - it depended upon the upholstery
pattern,but the long wheelbase Custom Beverly and Custom Berline sedans were added in 1937.
An estimated 2,995 Cord 810 and 812 motorcars were made.
An earlier Cord model was the Cord L29 front wheel drive straight eight motorcar of 1929 to 1932,of which 5010
were built.The Cord L29 models from 1929 to 1931 had the Lycoming FD 298.6 CID Engine,but the 1932 model
year L29’s had the Lycoming FF 322 CID Engine.
Production was in advance of each model year and continued in to the model year in question usually.But in the case
of the Cord L29 of 1929 to 1932,production was from June 1929 to Thursday,31st December,1931,but the 1932
model year Cord L29’s remained on sale in to 1933.
Cord L29,FWD=Front Wheel Drive,Lycoming FD 298.6 CID-4,894.054 CC,SV,IL8,115-125 BHP-Engined,Convertable Motorcar,CN.2927788,EN.14555.1929.TNUK,OTL-Saviem’s FC,271-272.4-2020.Hemmings.Com 3#
Cord L29,FWD=Front Wheel Drive,Lycoming FF 322 CID-5277.58 CC,SV,IL8,125 BHP-Engined,Phaeton Sedan Motorcar,CN.2930071,EN.4998.1931.TNUK,OTL-Saviem’s FC,271-272.4-2020.Hemmings.Com 4#
Cord 812 Supercharged Westchester or Beverly,Front Wheel Drive,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FC 288.6 CID-4730 CC,V8,186-195 BHP-Engined,Bustleback Sedan Motorcar,591-MD4,1937.TNUK,OTL-Saviem’s FC,271-272.4-2020.PV83 3#
Cord 812 Supercharged Westchester or Beverly,Front Wheel Drive,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FC 288.6 CID-4730 CC,V8,186-195 BHP-Engined,Bustleback Sedan Motorcar,591-MD4,1937.TNUK,OTL-Saviem’s FC,271-272.4-2020.PV83 6#
Having said that it’s a Cord 812 Supercharged Westchester or Beverly Sedan Motorcar,with a 125 inch wheelbase,
but because they were identical,apart from the longer 132 inch wheelbase,it could also be either a Custom
Beverly or a Custom Berline! It’s a minefield trying to identify Cord 810 and 812 models! 
But I can safely say that the above Cord 812 still has its original and complete body!
Cord 812 Supercharged Custom Beverly,FWD,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FC 288.6 CID-4730.154 CC,SV,V8-Cylinder,186-195 BHP Petrol-Gasoline - Engined,4-Door,Bustleback Sedan-Saloon Motorcar,1937.FLSV.I.WheelsAge.Org 3#
Cord 812 Supercharged Custom Beverly,FWD,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FC 288.6 CID-4730.154 CC,SV,V8-Cylinder,186-195 BHP Petrol-Gasoline - Engined,4-Door,Bustleback Sedan-Saloon Motorcar,1937.FFV.I.WheelsAge.Org 3#
The occasional Cord L29 and Cord 810 and 812 motorcars turn up in feature films - one of the most famous film
Cord’s is in the great comedy film WHAT’S NEW PUSSYCAT?,1965,starring Peter Sellers,Peter O’Toole,Romy Schneider,
Ursula Andress,Woody Allen,et al,with great music by the music genius Burt Bacharach ,QV photographs below:-
Cord 810 FWD=Front Wheel Drive,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FB 288.6 CID-4730.154 CC,SV,V8-Cylinder,117-125 BHP Petrol-Gasoline - Engined, Convertible Motorcar,9501.BE75,1936,driven by Wood Allen in What’s New Pussycat,1965. IMCDB 6#
Cord 810 FWD=Front Wheel Drive,39.2 RAC HP,Lycoming FC 288.6 CID-4730.154 CC,SV,V8-Cylinder,117-125 BHP Petrol-Gasoline - Engined, Convertible Motorcar,9501.BE75,1936,driven by Wood Allen in What’s New Pussycat,1965. IMCDB 3#
VALKYRIE
Cheers for the info VALKYRIE