Conor:
Punchy Dan:
What’s 2 axles got to do with anything ?.
Do you have a HGV licence? The number of axles determines the plated gross train weight. You’ll notice the higher the plated weight the more axles a unit and/or trailer has. Twin axle trailers tend to be plated for over a tonne which would put any transit type vehicle towing them into the “needs a tacho” category.
Knowing Dan he probably passed his HGV before his 11 plus!
Punchy Dan:
Stick to driving Conor
I will thanks. You can stick to being a clueless ■■■■■■ who has never actually sat behind the wheel of a lorry other than those of the drivers who allowed you to wash them in their yard on a Saturday morning.
Conor:
Punchy Dan:
Stick to driving ConorI will thanks. You can stick to being a clueless ■■■■■■ who has never actually sat behind the wheel of a lorry other than those of the drivers who allowed you to wash them in their yard on a Saturday morning.
Conor you are talking about Dan of the Punchard family of hauliers 
Cracking putdown ^^^^ be even more effective if it wasn’t for the number of lorries running around with the Punchard name all over them that is.
the maoster:
Cracking putdown ^^^^ be even more effective if it wasn’t for the number of lorries running around with the Punchard name all over them that is.
I don’t think I laughed so much. Think Conor needs to eat some humble pie. Cos he looks a total ■■■■
Conor:
Punchy Dan:
Stick to driving ConorI will thanks. You can stick to being a clueless ■■■■■■ who has never actually sat behind the wheel of a lorry other than those of the drivers who allowed you to wash them in their yard on a Saturday morning.
Hmm interesting
that’s told you dan, now you better let the rest of the clan know they aint got a clue what they’re doing
m.a.n rules:
that’s told you dan, now you better let the rest of the clan know they aint got a clue what they’re doing
Yes internal memo to all being sent out
Just to summarise
You don’t need DCPC for either
You would need a tacho fitted for both Amarok and RR - difficult to find sensible priced tacho install for RRs but can be done.
You don’t need o-licence for Amarok as well under 2 ton so qualifies for dual purpose exemption. You would need o-licence for RR as they weigh about 2.7 ton.
However, Amarok can’t tow 3.5t, and it standard engine form is underpowered, but other pickups like Isuzu D-max can tow 3.5 ton and also qualify for dual purpose exemption.
Range Rovers aren’t good for a towing business outside the 2006 and later TDV8 diesel models which are less troublesome but probably still unsuitable for a towing business due to maintenance required although they are a much more pleasant driving experience with often no worse fuel consumption than a pickup.
My choice would be an Isuzu D-Max run under warranty they are also tacho ready these days and install should be possible to spec on purchase.
Also on the tacho side be warned in theory once some in scope driving has been done all work including any non-driving should be recorded that week most use a diary if they worried about compliance but you can worry less if you stay out of the o-licencing regime as if in it’s another stick they can beat you with.
Own Account Driver:
you can worry less if you stay out of the o-licencing regime as if in it’s another stick they can beat you with.
Bearing in mind that the threshold for O licencing is 3.5t gross COMBINED vehicle AND trailer in the real world it’s probably going to need an O licence.At which point might as well go for at least a 7.5 tonner and a decent trailer and any driving licence upgrade if required.
Punchy Dan:
Conor:
Punchy Dan:
Stick to driving ConorI will thanks. You can stick to being a clueless ■■■■■■ who has never actually sat behind the wheel of a lorry other than those of the drivers who allowed you to wash them in their yard on a Saturday morning.
Hmm interesting
Hilarious 
Carryfast:
Own Account Driver:
you can worry less if you stay out of the o-licencing regime as if in it’s another stick they can beat you with.Bearing in mind that the threshold for O licencing is 3.5t gross COMBINED vehicle AND trailer in the real world it’s probably going to need an O licence.At which point might as well go for at least a 7.5 tonner and a decent trailer and any driving licence upgrade if required.
No there is an o-licence exemption for dual purpose qualifying vehicles the Amarok would qualify the Range Rover would not due to its higher kerb weight. With the Amarok the gross train weight can exceed 3.5t and no o-licence is required.
The dual purpose derogation means 2,040 unladen max.
Unless it’s taking train weight literally in the form an A frame drawbar type trailer the whole resulting compromised mess is going to be a minefield of trailer weight v towing vehicle imbalance and rear axle overload and loss of steer axle weight and resulting stability and braking issues.
The towing heap is going to need to be ballasted to its max preferably with bags of sand stacked on the floor of the passenger area not the silly load deck behind the the rear axle with the nose weight of a trailer then dropped on it.
At best its towing capacity is listed as only just over 3t gross which is a joke minus the weight of the trailer.
Just buy a cheap 7.5 tonner and licence the thing properly.It can then be pay loaded with the gross weight of the silly car derived heap and still tow a bleedin house behind it with no worries. 
Carryfast:
The dual purpose derogation means 2,040 unladen max.
Unless it’s taking train weight literally in the form an A frame drawbar type trailer the whole resulting compromised mess is going to be a minefield of trailer weight v towing vehicle imbalance and rear axle overload and loss of steer axle weight and resulting stability and braking issues.The towing heap is going to need to be ballasted to its max preferably with bags of sand stacked on the floor of the passenger area not the silly load deck behind the the rear axle with the nose weight of a trailer then dropped on it.
At best its towing capacity is listed as only just over 3t gross which is a joke minus the weight of the trailer.Just buy a cheap 7.5 tonner and licence the thing properly.It can then be pay loaded with the gross weight of the silly car derived heap and still tow a bleedin house behind it with no worries.
And another who’s probably only ever towed a caravan
Punchy Dan:
Carryfast:
The dual purpose derogation means 2,040 unladen max.
Unless it’s taking train weight literally in the form an A frame drawbar type trailer the whole resulting compromised mess is going to be a minefield of trailer weight v towing vehicle imbalance and rear axle overload and loss of steer axle weight and resulting stability and braking issues.The towing heap is going to need to be ballasted to its max preferably with bags of sand stacked on the floor of the passenger area not the silly load deck behind the the rear axle with the nose weight of a trailer then dropped on it.
At best its towing capacity is listed as only just over 3t gross which is a joke minus the weight of the trailer.Just buy a cheap 7.5 tonner and licence the thing properly.It can then be pay loaded with the gross weight of the silly car derived heap and still tow a bleedin house behind it with no worries.
And another who’s probably only ever towed a caravan
I think tipping petrol onto a fire spring to mind
Punchy Dan:
Carryfast:
The dual purpose derogation means 2,040 unladen max.
Unless it’s taking train weight literally in the form an A frame drawbar type trailer the whole resulting compromised mess is going to be a minefield of trailer weight v towing vehicle imbalance and rear axle overload and loss of steer axle weight and resulting stability and braking issues.The towing heap is going to need to be ballasted to its max preferably with bags of sand stacked on the floor of the passenger area not the silly load deck behind the the rear axle with the nose weight of a trailer then dropped on it.
At best its towing capacity is listed as only just over 3t gross which is a joke minus the weight of the trailer.Just buy a cheap 7.5 tonner and licence the thing properly.It can then be pay loaded with the gross weight of the silly car derived heap and still tow a bleedin house behind it with no worries.
And another who’s probably only ever towed a caravan
All close coupled heaps are effectively the same thing.Especially anyone stupid enough to tow a 3.5t gross trailer with a 2t ‘dual purpose’ car derived pick up or a Land Rover. 
This thread has brightened up a dull day !!
Punchy Dan:
Conor:
Punchy Dan:
Stick to driving ConorI will thanks. You can stick to being a clueless ■■■■■■ who has never actually sat behind the wheel of a lorry other than those of the drivers who allowed you to wash them in their yard on a Saturday morning.
Hmm interesting
When does the Punchard Truck wash open, as according to the Trucking Legend that’s all your fit to do,
Best sell some of the fleet Dan 
biggriffin:
When does the Punchard Truck wash open, as according to the Trucking Legend that’s all your fit to do,Best sell some of the fleet Dan
To be fair that Transit flat would have needed to be well loaded before daring to pull that trailer loaded at 3.5t gross.Unless Dan is the bravest of the brave.
