alix776:
They are planning that anway it’ll be back to victorian times no 4weeks holidays per year aside the country doesn’t has the political or economic power it once had. The world is consolidating. And the uk will be at the. Bottom of the list for negotiations for trade as much ad id love to vote out the basic economics as stacked against us
You do know that EU membership has made us a net importer of EU products unlike before we joined the scam.In which case exactly what have we got to lose by leaving. 
Euro:
I think that the four horsemen were Death, Disease, Famine and War.
During our EC membership Death has retreated due to increased longevity. Maybe not brimstone but our atmosphere is cleaner due to EC initiatives. Famine is always a risk without a robust food security policy but the farming organisations all support Britin. Not tsunamis but EC is collectively tackling global warming and rising sea levels. Collective action is a greater deterrent to epidemics and War is now certainly less likely against our previous adversaries.
Global warming bs.We’re actually adding to the CO2 content by needing the heating on in the end of May because it’s so zb cold and every time it shows signs of warming up the usual cold air mass moves in from the North.As for ‘rising’ sea levels based on exactly what real world evidence where.IE how much higher is low tide here now than it was 20-50 or even 100 years ago.In which case yet more evidence that the EU is just a dictatorial Socialist zb pile that gives power to unelected groups like the Greens with no electoral mandate.
As for Socialist inspired federations not usually if not always ending up in war tell that to the casualties of the breakup of the former Yugoslavia.Bearing in mind that the EU contains all same basic ingredients of forced ethnic,and unworkable economic, integration.With Turkey’s membership,followed by Islamic invasion and demographic takeover and the strengthening of Merkel’s and Juncker’s etc dictatorial Socialist grip,being guaranteed,if we don’t smash the project now.
del trotter:
OVLOV JAY:
It will be doomsday, as all the saps will vote to remain, paving the way to rename us the western Islamic state of Europe. The U.K. Has tried to veto 72 Eu motions, and has failed 72 times. Does anyone seriously think WE will stop Turkey joining the Eu?? Take the spending and eu migration aside, I don’t want to be part of a club that dishes out passports to terrorists, allowing them free access to our country. For once, think of the children is the best line. I’ve watched my country, which my parents say was already crap when I was 5, deteriorate over the past 30 years. What will be left for my children to make a life in? And Rottweiler22 has it spot on about the real reason why they scaremonger. Anyone who can’t get a job in Brussels is against the eu, anyone who’s in line for one is pro. Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas, but call me Dave put the tree up calling the referendum, now he’s desperately trying to avoid the oven
What a complete load of nonsense.
Feel free to explain what’s nonsense
The western Islamic state bit is nonsense. Religion of all types all over the world is on its last legs, even in countries which have a state religion. In every statistical measure religious participation is decreasing. Even in the UK which some people say is a christian country only 20% actively participate, going to a wedding/christening every so often does not count as participating. Even though large % of the UK identify as Christian. Religions are getting more extreme to garner any sort of attention and some random mentally ill people blow themselves up to get some attention.
The immigrants coming to Europe are fleeing hard line religion they are not looking to live under it.
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I’d have agreed with that ten years ago, but with an Islamic political party with government seats in Belgium, and a Muslim mayor in our capital, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility. Look at the problems in Sweeden, Germany and France. And with the potential of Turkey being able to issue Eu passports through the back door sometime in the future, it’s no longer an issue to shout down as propaganda or bury heads in the sand over
alicks77:
The western Islamic state bit is nonsense. Religion of all types all over the world is on its last legs, even in countries which have a state religion. In every statistical measure religious participation is decreasing. Even in the UK which some people say is a christian country only 20% actively participate, going to a wedding/christening every so often does not count as participating. Even though large % of the UK identify as Christian. Religions are getting more extreme to garner any sort of attention and some random mentally ill people blow themselves up to get some attention.
The immigrants coming to Europe are fleeing hard line religion they are not looking to live under it.
You’re avin a larf.
More like in the delusional world of the Socialists the citizens of Merkel’s Socialist Eurasian Federation are all going to live in harmony in Atheistic Utopia.
As for the weddings and christenings full on Atheists don’t need to christen their kids or get married in church.While any real atheist would obviously refuse to attend unless they’re hypocrites.IE attending weddings or getting married in church or christening children certainly does count as Christian.
As for the rest of the bs.Great we’ll demolish all those unwanted Mosques and the Islamic immigrant community obviously won’t want to vote for any Islamic representation in local or national government and they’ll all be calling for Islam to be banned here.Having recognised the superiority of the civilised western culture that they’ve chosen to move to.
Meanwhile in the real world the laws of demographics and human nature related to self determination apply.
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Religion is dying you can deny it if you wish. People if they were so religious would not run away from a religious run state/country.
And if someone invites you to a wedding you generally go you don’t say no because you disagree with whatever arena it’s in, that makes you a ■■■. Also preaching non Christian like values means you can cannot claim to be a christian. Love thy neighbour and all that or do you think when jesuss said that he meant only if they had same accent as you?
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alicks77:
Religion is dying you can deny it if you wish. People if they were so religious would not run away from a religious run state/country.
And if someone invites you to a wedding you generally go you don’t say no because you disagree with whatever arena it’s in, that makes you a ■■■. Also preaching non Christian like values means you can cannot claim to be a christian. Love thy neighbour and all that or do you think when jesuss said that he meant only if they had same accent as you?
Which part of they aren’t ‘running away’ from Islam they are bringing it here to our place,don’t you understand.
As for love thy neighbour and turn the other cheek etc etc.No thanks because that’s what seperates a naive Pacifist from a Christian realist.While I’m friends with the neighbours but that’s not the same thing as putting their name on the deeds of the house let alone the rest of the world’s population.
So you are saying that when they are hanging on to the back of the eurostar or swimming the channel they are doing it to prevent us eating pork sausages rather than to avoid death or poverty?
And you are not a christian if you say I don’t subscribe to one of the main principles said by the guy that started the whole thing. You cannot claim to be part of a religion when you do follow it’s rules, is that simple.
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alicks77:
So you are saying that when they are hanging on to the back of the eurostar or swimming the channel they are doing it to prevent us eating pork sausages rather than to avoid death or poverty?
And you are not a christian if you say I don’t subscribe to one of the main principles said by the guy that started the whole thing. You cannot claim to be part of a religion when you do follow it’s rules, is that simple.
Firstly poverty isn’t sufficient to meet the definition of ‘asylum’ and Turkey,let alone France,is safe enough to be a tourist destination for Brits.As are the Arab Gulf States which also aren’t exactly known for their poverty either.
While I’m saying that they are coming here because 1 they know the place is a soft touch being infested with bleeding heart zb wit Socialists who want the removal of our borders and 2 the intention is to change the demographic of Europe.So yes future generation of the indigenous population could well face being banned from eating pork.Among the other delights of Sharia law which the Islamic world is trying to infiltrate the western cultures with.
As for the Guy who started the whole thing.Yes the idea of surrendering to/appeasing people like Hitler or Iranian revolutionary or Saudi type Wahabbi Islam,or the Roman savages who crucified him,or taking life to save life,is obviously a contradiction.Call it evolution of the religion based on experience and good reason in the form of the struggle between good and evil.
alicks77:
Religion is dying you can deny it if you wish. People if they were so religious would not run away from a religious run state/country.
Religion isn’t dying, it’s being diluted. And while Christianity is not as big as it once was in the uk, the Muslims are devout. They don’t need to be in the me or Asia to pray 5 times a day. Have you ever tried to tip at bestway on a Friday lunchtime?
Of course not every immigrant in Calais wants to be Allan’s answer to Guy Fawkes, they’re the quiet ones at the side of the road, waiting for their chance at a free lunch. I’d say the fundamentalists are the ones that bombard trucks with missiles, while trying to sneak in under the cloak of asylum
Carryfast:
alicks77:
So you are saying that when they are hanging on to the back of the eurostar or swimming the channel they are doing it to prevent us eating pork sausages rather than to avoid death or poverty?
And you are not a christian if you say I don’t subscribe to one of the main principles said by the guy that started the whole thing. You cannot claim to be part of a religion when you do follow it’s rules, is that simple.
Firstly poverty isn’t sufficient to meet the definition of ‘asylum’ and Turkey,let alone France,is safe enough to be a tourist destination for Brits.As are the Arab Gulf States which also aren’t exactly known for their poverty either.
While I’m saying that they are coming here because 1 they know the place is a soft touch being infested with bleeding heart zb wit Socialists who want the removal of our borders and 2 the intention is to change the demographic of Europe.So yes future generation of the indigenous population could well face being banned from eating pork.Among the other delights of Sharia law which the Islamic world is trying to infiltrate the western cultures with.
As for the Guy who started the whole thing.Yes the idea of surrendering to/appeasing people like Hitler or Iranian revolutionary or Saudi type Wahabbi Islam,or the Roman savages who crucified him,or taking life to save life,is obviously a contradiction.Call it evolution of the religion based on experience and good reason in the form of the struggle between good and evil.
Religion can’t evolve hence why it’s dying, they just omit the bits they don’t like. Which mean more people fall away as they believe they are being conned I. E. Do as I say not as I do.
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alicks77:
Religion can’t evolve hence why it’s dying, they just omit the bits they don’t like. Which mean more people fall away as they believe they are being conned I. E. Do as I say not as I do.
No the freedom to selectively believe is actually the sign of an evolving progressive religion.Unlike Islam.While as I’ve said that selectivety has been bleedin advantageous when it came to stopping people like Hitler and kicking previous Islamic invasions out of Europe for example.
Meanwhile feel free to follow the Socialist agenda.Which wants the mass importation of Asian culture by opening the doors to Turkey.All based on the delusion that they can convert Islam to Socialist Atheism. 
History has shown that religion fades, the Christians used to be worse than the Muslims. Crusades setting fire to random sects of society but we evolved through it. The same thing will happen to islam.
But you keep hiding behind the couch everytime you see an elderly woman with a head scarf on, you’ll be ok. I will protect you.
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alicks77:
History has shown that religion fades, the Christians used to be worse than the Muslims. Crusades setting fire to random sects of society but we evolved through it. The same thing will happen to islam.
But you keep hiding behind the couch everytime you see an elderly woman with a head scarf on, you’ll be ok. I will protect you.
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That’s a fair point, but the crusades were nearly a thousand years ago. The Muslims still fanatically believe in a nonsense fairytale and will do so for a long long time yet. They are stuck in the dark ages and trying to take us back there too. They’ve been here since the 60’s and still havnt seen the benefits of using toilet paper instead of their hands so I wouldn’t count on them disbelieving the fairytale yet
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alicks77:
History has shown that religion fades, the Christians used to be worse than the Muslims. Crusades setting fire to random sects of society but we evolved through it. The same thing will happen to islam.
But you keep hiding behind the couch everytime you see an elderly woman with a head scarf on, you’ll be ok. I will protect you.
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That’s a fair point, but the crusades were nearly a thousand years ago. The Muslims still fanatically believe in a nonsense fairytale and will do so for a long long time yet. They are stuck in the dark ages and trying to take us back there too. They’ve been here since the 60’s and still havnt seen the benefits of using toilet paper instead of their hands so I wouldn’t count on them disbelieving the fairytale yet
Yes I never at any stage said the vast majority of religious types were not stupid. I agree with you there most religious people are thick.
1.6 billion Muslims in the world so if they were all intent on world ■■■■■■■■■■ it would have happened by now. The amount of jihadis is miniscule compared to 1 .6 billion muslims and even smaller if you consider 7 billion people on earth. Diy kills more people in the UK than terrorists.
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