whats your predictions ?
When you’ve predicted the future could you let me know next Tuesdays euromillions numbers 
I predict Spurs will still blow it this season…[emoji23][emoji23][emoji106]
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I predict a riot.
(I also predict that some ■■■■ remoaner will use this thread as a (nother) whinge fest about ■■■■ Brexit. 
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keep calm and carry on, there is nothing you can do about anything, if life takes longer make sure your paid hourly, if its sorted and takes less time push for salary, we double manned and if empty week took the 8 hrs a day with good grace, but if loaded we were on security for 12hrs a day so claimed 12 hrs.
I predict…
Brexit doesnt happen, we remain in the EU. Turkey joins the EU and the UK will be flooded with another wave of cheap drivers to keep our wages down again for another 15 years.
msgyorkie:
I predict…
Brexit doesnt happen, we remain in the EU. Turkey joins the EU and the UK will be flooded with another wave of cheap drivers to keep our wages down again for another 15 years.
After that, I now predict a 10 page thread courtesy of our resident ‘know it all’
robroy:
After that, I now predict a 10 page thread courtesy of our resident ‘know it all’
Now I wonder who on earth could that possibly be 
We are all going to die.
Winseer:
I’ve already made mine.
2050.BBC news reports rebel nationalist stronghold areas of Britain being brought into line by EU Federal forces.US President expresses support and thanks to German Chancellor for Germany’s contribution and congratulations on the EU flag flying high and proud.
Winseer:
I’ve already made mine.
■■■■ fine reading there old bean.Like the ‘blood flowing in the streets’ nod to a certain satanic entity that’s had this planet by the short n curlies for aeons.Maybe you triggered a few algorithms chez House de Redshield. 
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Darkspirit:
robroy:
(I also predict that some [zb] remoaner will use this thread as a (nother) whinge fest about [zb] Brexit.I also predict that some brexiteer will use this thread as another whinge fest about remainers
Federalism v Secession again reaches its logical opposing lines and conflicting conclusion as so often throughout history.Unfortunately in this case,like the US example and unlike the Irish and Slovene examples,the Federalists will probably win.
Carryfast:
Darkspirit:
robroy:
(I also predict that some [zb] remoaner will use this thread as a (nother) whinge fest about [zb] Brexit.I also predict that some brexiteer will use this thread as another whinge fest about remainers
Federalism v Secession again reaches its logical opposing lines and conflicting conclusion as so often throughout history.Unfortunately in this case,like the US example and unlike the Irish and Slovene examples,the Federalists will probably win.
The best resistance against Federalism - is to avoid sharing the currency. If we’d joined the Euro a few years back - any attempt at Brexit would have been crushed from the start, and we’d be like Greece now, with mass unemployment, a totally scorched-earth Public Sector, and hundreds of innocents dead from the ensuing disasters (like the Greece Wildfires) as a result of “no one left to deal with it”.
Winseer:
The best resistance against Federalism - is to avoid sharing the currency
When push comes to shove between Federalism v Secession which currency is irrelevant. 
Carryfast:
Winseer:
The best resistance against Federalism - is to avoid sharing the currencyWhen push comes to shove between Federalism v Secession which currency is irrelevant.
I never read of any bank raids by the Union during the civil war… I always assumed that the CSoA dollar bills were totally Fiat currency, not based on anything more tangible than “staked claimed land” - rather than Gold in particular…
Winseer:
Carryfast:
Winseer:
The best resistance against Federalism - is to avoid sharing the currencyWhen push comes to shove between Federalism v Secession which currency is irrelevant.
I never read of any bank raids by the Union during the civil war… I always assumed that the CSoA dollar bills were totally Fiat currency, not based on anything more tangible than “staked claimed land” - rather than Gold in particular…
Notwithstanding what backed the currency ( cotton and tobacco would have been far better than gold it didn’t have,let alone nothing in that regard ) the CSA fought and lost a war of secession having obviously used your logic.
While Slovenia had to go to war against the JNA and won all while still using the Yugoslav Dinar.Only introducing the Tolar after the victory in the 10 day war and secession.
Then after all that it was happy to replace the Tolar with the Euro.The definition of making the same Federalist mistake as before and expecting a different outcome.
I suppose one nation attempting to secede - might consider using the currency of the old regime - because I cannot ever see that old regime knackering it’s own currency to bring down their enemy!
If Britain had joined the Euro, it would be a lot harder politically to leave the EU but a lot easier in practice I suggest.
Of course of those 27 member states that “joined the Euro” - all but the inner circle did NOT actually “join the Euro” at ALL!
Could Tsipras of Greece turn on his printing presses like (I suspect) Varoufakis the then-minster of finance wanted to do?
Could Italy or Spain or any other EU member state “print their own”■■?
If you’re Macron’s France, or Denied-the-Right Germany - then you can bloody well do as you please, including sacking entire swathes of public sector workers - by holding actual socialist governments in countries like Greece to RANSOM “for more printed money” that is printed by the ECB outside of Greece, but PRINTED nonetheless…
It might still be the case that Britain leaving the EU in practice - will bring down the Euro.
We might have to Bring Down the Euro BEFORE completing Brexit however - “thus cutting the wire fence” so to speak.
Let’s hope we don’t now get “shot on the wire” for such a bold attempt!
Winseer:
I suppose one nation attempting to secede - might consider using the currency of the old regime - because I cannot ever see that old regime knackering it’s own currency to bring down their enemy!If Britain had joined the Euro, it would be a lot harder politically to leave the EU but a lot easier in practice I suggest.
It might still be the case that Britain leaving the EU in practice - will bring down the Euro.
We might have to Bring Down the Euro BEFORE completing Brexit however - “thus cutting the wire fence” so to speak.
It seems clear that us leaving the EU in the form of ending our ‘contributions’ would create havoc within the EU and especially the German economy thereby crashing the raison d etre of the Euro.There are too many big interests who are in too deep with the EU project in that regard to let us go without anything less than a full on war of secession v federal aggression.Which HM and her forces obviously ain’t going to be onside with.Don’t expect any miracles from controlled opposition BoJo or Farage in that regard.The dream ended with the quiet removal of both Batten and Hoey from the scene.Fast forward to around 2050-2060 to see where all this ends up going.But you can bet that if/when Lisbon is allowed to take over the agenda we’ll be in the Euro by default long before then.The difference being that this time Germany has got us exactly where it wants us ( split from Canada/NZ/Australia unlike in 1914 and 1939 and an asset stripped shell incapable to defending itself and probably much weaker in real terms than even Slovenia was v the JNA ).
Let alone CSA v USA which is probably a closer comparison of the mismatch in an inevitable sooner or later EU v UK ( call it England ) brawl.Even if we had the leadership and a united population on the country’s side for it ( see Missouri ) 
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Make no mistake all this was pre planned from at least 1945 in that the US couldn’t/wouldn’t dare allow a Confederate States of Europe to take off and which are the obvious stakes if secession is shown to succeed,let alone work,in Europe now.