Cabin Air Filters

You want a carbon activated pollen filter. Removes lots of nasties, if your problems are bad try a de-ionizer too.

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You want a carbon activated pollen filter. Removes lots of nasties, if your problems are bad try a de-ionizer too.

The Mercedes filter is carbon activated. As I said above it would stop 100% pollen and 98% of other toxic pollutants coming into my work place,the cab of a truck. My employer has taken a business decision (ie. save money ,increase profit ) not to fit the filters to the trucks despite Mercedes recommendation.
I bought my own filter but my employer has stopped me from using it. The Gimp mask comment is relevant. My employer suggested I wear a mask but then were worried not about my health but what would customers I was delivering to think.They told me I can’t wear a mask.

You will all of heard of the Elf n Safety at work act,the HSE,DVSA, duty of care. Well forget about it. None of it applies to your work place the cab of a truck. No one is interested in your health. My managers can sit in an air conditioned office because they are protected by the HSAW Act and COSHH (Control of Substances Hazardous to Health). We don’t get any protection. So no I wont lighten up because I’m bl**dy angry.

Vid1954:

biggriffin:
You want a carbon activated pollen filter. Removes lots of nasties, if your problems are bad try a de-ionizer too.

My managers can sit in an air conditioned office because they are protected by the HSAW Act and COSHH (Control of Substances Hazardous to Health). We don’t get any protection. So no I wont lighten up because I’m bl**dy angry.

You make a fair point mate. My question is why has your employer stopped you using your own filter?

Not fitting the filters plays havoc with the climate control systems, too, be no a/c next. Also if said company run a few trucks, the fitters bonus for saving £10 per truck might earn him £100, per year. Air drier filters are in the same boat for being changed, air filters are now blown out every 6 months to make them last an extra 12months.

UKtramp:

Vid1954:

biggriffin:
You want a carbon activated pollen filter. Removes lots of nasties, if your problems are bad try a de-ionizer too.

My managers can sit in an air conditioned office because they are protected by the HSAW Act and COSHH (Control of Substances Hazardous to Health). We don’t get any protection. So no I wont lighten up because I’m bl**dy angry.

You make a fair point mate. My question is why has your employer stopped you using your own filter?

My now ex-employer, they’ve just sacked me, said my fitting the filter would be regarded as tampering. They have onsite technicians who could do the job in seconds.
The thing that has shocked me is there is nothing I nor any government agency can do. I raised a legitimate concern that the lack of an air filter would exacerbate my respiratory condition. I suggested they fit a filter costing a few quid. Last week they announced they had made £200m.

Now I’m on a mission to get them to spend some of that on my former work mates.

Vid1954:
My now ex-employer, they’ve just sacked me, said my fitting the filter would be regarded as tampering. They have onsite technicians who could do the job in seconds.
The thing that has shocked me is there is nothing I nor any government agency can do. I raised a legitimate concern that the lack of an air filter would exacerbate my respiratory condition. I suggested they fit a filter costing a few quid. Last week they announced they had made £200m.

Now I’m on a mission to get them to spend some of that on my former work mates.

Sorry to hear you were sacked and I hope you can get them an unfair dismissal but the Gulags had better workers rights than today’s UK.

Failing that I hope you did/will do some serious tampering with their trucks & loads in future and I don’t mean retrofitting the appropriate filters.

If a company did that to me to save a tenner a year I can assure you I would cost them thousands in payback.

I am shocked a company would remove them to increase their profits a fraction but even more shocked by the amount of so called drivers on here who fully agree with such nasty practices and disparage your posts.

Best of luck to you mate.

Sorry you have lost your job M8, the filter you fitted I am assuming was a plug in filter to an outlet on a cig lighter socket?

As an individual you will find the dice heavily loaded against you if trying to make a claim for unfair dismissal. It would have been a different matter if you had been a Union member. That said if you have a letter stating the reasons for dismissal which vitally contains some detail of the ‘offence’ which matches what you have put on here, then there is a glimmer of hope. Whatever our collective opinion of them is, this is the sort of issue which justifies contacting your member of parliament. What reaction you get sadly depends upon the colour of rosette he or she wears. I am not familiar with the means of fitting a pollen fiter to a Mercedes lorry, but if it is anything like a DAF it is an extremely simple operation to fit and remove, which does not involve any potential for damaging the housing. If the Mercedes is in any way similar I cannot see the company being able to defend their action in court on the basis of your tampering with the vehicle. A decent lawyer would be asking what qualifications are required to install and remove such a filter element. It hardly seems to be a task which a main dealer would only allow a master technician to undertake.

There is no legislation in place requiring these filters to be fitted

The OP’s words.

If he has a medical condition requiring clean air to this level, he would be able to produce a doctor’s note confirming this, and if it is that severe they would be recommending a change of job, or maybe giving up work. If he has this note has his employer been made aware?

A pollen filter is that. It won’t stop pollution entering a cab. What about the vents at the rear of the cab that allow airflow when moving, is he suggesting sealing these as well to stop fume ingress when not travelling?

I would think the (ex) employer has took all this into account and feels it better that the relationship ends.

I’m sympathetic to op’s problem. But wondering how often one drives with the window down. Negating any air filtration completely.

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Anything that can stop fumes entering the cab has to be a good idea, as they then can’t spoil the taste of your ■■■■.
Regards. John.

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Vid1954:
My now ex-employer, they’ve just sacked me, said my fitting the filter would be regarded as tampering. They have onsite technicians who could do the job in seconds.
The thing that has shocked me is there is nothing I nor any government agency can do. I raised a legitimate concern that the lack of an air filter would exacerbate my respiratory condition. I suggested they fit a filter costing a few quid. Last week they announced they had made £200m.

Now I’m on a mission to get them to spend some of that on my former work mates.

Sorry to hear you were sacked and I hope you can get them an unfair dismissal but the Gulags had better workers rights than today’s UK.

Failing that I hope you did/will do some serious tampering with their trucks & loads in future and I don’t mean retrofitting the appropriate filters.

If a company did that to me to save a tenner a year I can assure you I would cost them thousands in payback.

I am shocked a company would remove them to increase their profits a fraction but even more shocked by the amount of so called drivers on here who fully agree with such nasty practices and disparage your posts.

Best of luck to you mate.

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bazza123:
I can’t see how the cab air without filter is more polluted than being on the pavement?? It’s the same air…

The only sure fire way of not breathing that [zb] in is to be hermetically sealed in with a respirator mask. Not exactly practical.

One thing I would say is if you live in the country then come into a city, you can smell the traffic/fumes pollution. It stinks.

Until (if) one day all traffic is running on hydrogen/battery etc then there will continue to be high levels of traffic pollution.

Nazis used to pump exhaust into the back of a truck. Didn’t do the cargo much good. The level of pollution inside the box you sit in is much higher than the levels outside. Thats a known fact and has been for twenty years.

Mercedes recommend fitting the filter because it stops 100% of pollen and 98% of other pollutants. Costs about £10. Yes we are all going to die… some horribly gasping for air. 95% of trucks on the road have cabin air filters fitted so most of you are protected. The remaining 5% thank you for your support…or is that you saying we’re all right Jack your other unprotected colleagues can ■■■■ it up and get stuffed ?

The ■■■■’s (I hope Carryfast isn’t reading this :laughing: ) actually attached a hose directly from the exhaust into the sealed van, hence the poor victims were breathing in very highly concentrated levels of noxious gases. The “fumes” entering an unfiltered cab or whatever are presumably of a much lower concentration otherwise we would all be dead every time we got behind the wheel. Also I assume these filters may remove particulates, but are no good for the noxious gases. Hence my statement that the only sure fire way of avoiding all this is to be sealed in and breath via a respirator. As I say hardly practical.

I wasn’t taking the ■■■■ although your post/response comes across as a bit touchy. The problem comes in opening the door, or winding down the window to speak to someone etc, you are suddenly breathing unfiltered air.

I’m still not sure how the cab air is more dangerous than standing by the road■■? It’s the same air.

Move away from busy routes with heavy traffic and concentrations of particulates and those levels must drop considerably. Compare the air on say, Dartmoor, and that on Oxford Street where it’s chocca with buses. I’ll take Dartmoor anytime.

OK I’ve done what I intended which was make you aware of the problem. As I said the majority of you are protected with cabin air filters. 95 % of vehicles on the road have them fitted. If you don’t think they serve a purpose by all means take them out and bin them.

The level of pollution inside a vehicle is higher than outside. That is a fact. It has been known for years. Manufactures spend millions on research to improve the quality of air in your cabs. It is a mistake to call the filters just" Pollen filters". The technology is improving all the time. They now can stop 98% of pollutants exiting the air vents into your lungs.

Yes you can drive with the window open , when you are moving , to improve air quality. Come the winter when you are nice and cosy with the windows closed and the heater blowing stuck in the Blackwell Tunnel most of you are breathing filtered air. My colleagues and I are inhaling the unfiltered exhaust from the vehicle in front. A cabin air filter stops that happening.

I think it’s reasonable to ask my employer of nine years if I can fit the filter recommended by Mercedes to help protect my health. My ex employer considers it reasonable to ask me to drive a vehicle which my specialist respiratory consultant says will damage my health if a filter is not fitted.

As someone suggested I have taken this up with my MP and things looked promising. A question was asked of the Transport Minister…then they called an election and everything is on hold.

I’m close to retiring having covered over three million miles in the UK and more overseas. I’ll do what I can to make people aware of the problem that truck drivers have no legal protection from this behaviour of putting profit above health. That’s the same corporate attitude which looks like the poor sods in North Kensington have fallen victim to.

I appreciate the time you have taken to comment even if it was just to take the ■■■■■ Sorry if I came across a bit touchy. Keep safe. I’m gone.