sammym:
How much extra do you get paid for having this ADR card? I know that’s a piece of string question. But lets say you are carrying ADR loads how much above your normal rate would you expect?
Hi sammym,
This really is theoretical, because it varies so much.
The short answer is that some companies do, whilst some don’t.
Of those companies that do pay a premium, the premium is sometimes calculated per day, per load or per week.
Did I mention that it varies■■? 
dieseldave:
An ADR course can comprises of a total of up to 12 modules, but is customisable to a person or company’s requirements.The 12 modules are called:
001 Core
002 Tanks
003 Packs
004 UN Class 1 (Explosives)
005 UN Class 2 (Gases)
006 UN Class 3 (Flammable Liquids)
007 UN Class 4 (Other Flammables)
008 UN Class 5 (Oxidisers and Organic Peroxides)
009 UN Class 6 (Toxic and Infectious)
010 UN Class 7 (Radioactives)
011 UN Class 8 (Corrosives)
012 UN Class 9 (Other dangerous goods not fitting the criteria of Classes 1 -The minimum requirement for a person to obtain an ADR Card is:
Core + Tanks or Packs + at least one of the UN Classes
For example, if you want to deliver gas cylinders, all that’s needed is Core, Packs and UN Class 2
Another example: A petrol tanker driver needs a minimum of Core, Tanks and UN Class 3The commonest combination is Core, Packs and UN Classes 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 9 which gives a general qualification to carry most dangerous goods in packages. Packages are: Drums, boxes, crates, IBCs, jerricans and gas cylinders.
Some people add the tanker module to the above, which then allows the driver to carry the same UN Classes in a tank.
For now, and deliberately avoiding the many possible technical definitions, you need the Tanks module to carry dangerous goods in:
A tanker vehicle >1,000 L carrying capacity that has the tank permanently attached to it, AND/OR
An ISO tank container >3,000 L carrying capacity.
Are there any good training schools in west yorkshire?
Well done DieselDave, really good informative thread on a topic I’ve been debating myself recently.
Is there a large demand out there for drivers with an ADR qualification? I suppose the easiest way to tell is to look at jobs advertised but I don’t live in an area near any large refineries etc or at least I think I do so I wouldn’t expect to see many ADR jobs advertised locally to myself. I don’t have much driving experience so maybe doing my ADR wouldn’t benefit me as firms would be after driving experience first and foremost
I know you hear about certain driving jobs (such as fuel tanker drivers) earning obscene amounts of money. Is there any truth to this or is this not the norm and may only happen at a select couple of companies? Eg if you managed to get on a fuel tanker at Stobarts would it pay much more than their gen haulage? I’ve seen on their website they may have tanker work in Rugby
Redrum:
Well done DieselDave, really good informative thread on a topic I’ve been debating myself recently.Is there a large demand out there for drivers with an ADR qualification? I suppose the easiest way to tell is to look at jobs advertised but I don’t live in an area near any large refineries etc or at least I think I do so I wouldn’t expect to see many ADR jobs advertised locally to myself. I don’t have much driving experience so maybe doing my ADR wouldn’t benefit me as firms would be after driving experience first and foremost
I know you hear about certain driving jobs (such as fuel tanker drivers) earning obscene amounts of money. Is there any truth to this or is this not the norm and may only happen at a select couple of companies? Eg if you managed to get on a fuel tanker at Stobarts would it pay much more than their gen haulage? I’ve seen on their website they may have tanker work in Rugby
If you don’t have much experience you’re still going to struggle to find someone to let you loose with a normal load never mind one that requires an ADR cert. You could still do the training and gain the CPC hours so not a complete waste of money.
Yes fuel attracts a good wage as do other chemical tank jobs. Stobart tankers as far as I’m aware are for them to transport fuel to their own depots rather than work on behalf of third parties.
Might be an idea to look at the 'recent Suttons thread on the main board. Around Widnes there’s a lot of tanker jobs paying £9-9.50 mark, which doesn’t suggest a premium to me. Other areas might be different of course.
Is there demand? Well all our drivers are ADR trained, but I would rather take on the right driver without an ADR, than the wrong one with an ADR. We pay for the ADR.
harrawaffa:
If you don’t have much experience you’re still going to struggle to find someone to let you loose with a normal load never mind one that requires an ADR cert. You could still do the training and gain the CPC hours so not a complete waste of money.
Yes fuel attracts a good wage as do other chemical tank jobs. Stobart tankers as far as I’m aware are for them to transport fuel to their own depots rather than work on behalf of third parties.
I understand, I’m employed at the minute but we don’t do much if any ADR work as far as I’m aware so I’d have to move elsewhere to make the most of the ADR certificate if I was to get it. I think I will do it sometime in the near future because like you say, you get an extra string to your bow whilst racking up the extra CPC hours
Answering purely from a personal point of view:
Got ADR and its opened up a nice gig with trunking pallets overnight on class 1 which requires it so was worth it personally. A lot of pallet companies need ADR people for one thing. Also used it for example on easy job doing medical bins for hospitals (wheelie bins).
Would get all modules except 1 and 7 as employer would likely pay for those since they need specialist trucks etc. Gives the best range for sny type of work for little extra money.
Course is intensive but if done right you’ll find you remember it even if it feels initially like doing all school exams at once. Tests are actually light relief. Get plenty of sleep.
Dont start trying to learn it before hand as you’ll just confuse yourself.
My cert took 4 weeks from memory via paper version. Filling in the forms for the exam board was more stressful than doing the tests, genuinely. 
Finally little tip esp if you do it with Peter Smyth - instructions on writing 2017 mist be kept “close at hand”. You’ll get brownie points for knowing that.
dieseldave:
Londontrucker123:
How does the test itself work?The exams can be either online OR paper based.
That will depend on the provider that you eventually choose, because it’s up to them how they run their exams.
Either way up, ALL questions are multiple choice.
If the exam is taken online, the results are marked and published (to the provider) when the last person has finished the last exam for that course number.
The ADR card then takes about 7-10 days to arrive at the address given on the course joining form at the start of the course.
If the exams are paper based, they are sent to Glasgow for marking etc, then the ADR cards will arrive at the address given on the course joining form at the start of the course in up to 5 weeks.
Whichever exam route is taken, the original of an ADR card must carried on board a vehicle when the vehicle is carrying a load that is fully subject to ADR Regs.
(Some packaged loads are carried by use of various exemptions, for which an ADR card is not needed.)
I just completed my ADR yesterday, all done online for exams. Apparently I’ve to wait until Tuesday before I will know if I’ve passed.
Found the course very intensive being a new comes. Trainer was good but I found the SQA training booklet was all over the place and did not follow the PowerPoint. This made it more difficult imo.
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Dougie2016, i would go for a residential course to take the ADR, you do not want to be commuting to the class everyday, stuck in traffic or the car breaking down.
At the end of day, you can mix with your class mates for a few pints or a meal out, and mill over the course content, as said, there will be Mr Gobby, who knows it all and got the teeshirt, when he drove to Baghdad in a day cab ERF twin splitter ,dodging bullets on the way.
The course with Peter Smythe is an amazingly good value deal, the cheapest around, with free digs, if you paid for a hotel,guest house or a B&B, that will set you back £35 to £70 per night .
My boss did not pay me extra for ADR, and i paid it myself and got the tanks but never used the tanks, i did the course before i got a full time job, the firm would have paid for it.
Try not to listen to the chatter from class mates, as you will absorb their incorrect facts and fail the exam, listen to the tutor, take colored pens, as this helps the memory.
Do not panic on the test day, as you think you have forgot the information, the brain , like a filing cabinet will get the facts you need.
MOSSSIDEDEEP:
I just completed my ADR yesterday, all done online for exams. Apparently I’ve to wait until Tuesday before I will know if I’ve passed.
Hi MOSSSIDEDEEP,
Normally, once the last person has finished the last exam (for that course number) the results are instantly available, but they will normally only come through to the main computer in the provider’s office.
It’s not normal to have to wait for your results as you have described, but it might be explained by:
1.) The SQA system in Glasgow went down
2.) The internet (or a computer) might have suffered an interruption locally
3.) The relevant person at the training provider might not be available
Either way up, what’s done is done.
MOSSSIDEDEEP:
Found the course very intensive being a new comes. Trainer was good but I found the SQA training booklet was all over the place and did not follow the PowerPoint. This made it more difficult imo.
The training booklet you used doesn’t actually come from SQA, but is from whoever wrote the rest of the course materials as part of the course ‘package’ (PowerPoint slideshow, tutor notes, handouts and student notes) they submit to SQA for approval.
There are a number of approved courses available ‘off the shelf’ to providers, which saves them having to write their own at the time they’re seeking approval as a new provider. However, providers are at liberty to write their own course and submit it for approval if they wish. Some of those make their course available for sale ‘off the shelf.’
I’ve taught ADR for providers who have written their own, as well as others who use an ‘off the shelf’ course, but in 15yrs of doing this, I’ve yet to come across a course booklet that follows the slideshow.
I hope you passed everything you entered for!!
Peter Smythe:
£450 INCLUDES packages and tanks. Excludes explosives and radioactives. Includes everything else, 28 hours cpc and free accommodation if more than 70 miles from NG17 3FW.Hope this clears it up.
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Hi Peter, do you have any deals on ADR training at the moment?
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Hi Peter, do you have any deals on ADR training at the moment?
Always good deals on ADR! The normal rate is £600 fully inclusive which is below market rate. But Trucknet users can claim their 10% discount making it £540. Free accommodation if more than 70 miles from NG17 3FW. If eligible, the candidate will also gain 28hrs of driver cpc within the cost.
Call the office 01623 555661 for dates.
All the best, Pete 
Thanks…
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