Tubbysboy we charge them a poultry £10 to come and drive on our roads this should be at least £150 try going to say Italy today you would have to double that and some. Our counterparts have grabbed our work by the balls, in and out. When I first started the work was 50/50 doubt it’s 15% for us today and they have all the top notch equipment with cheap wages some trucks having two drivers for less than we have to pay one, its not an easy climate, add to that the Euro and we become an expensive option, look how many British companies have gone out of the job. We buy far more of them than we export so they want us selfish gits, we should go back to trading with the world like we did with the commonwealth, stuff them they control us we are not our own country anymore so lets exit as soon as we can, cant be worse than it is at present and we could give the 55 million pounds a day it costs us to the National Health instead of them tossers, As for T forms lets not go back wasting all those man hours like we used to let it stay as is and get on with what little we have left, a level playing field it is not and has not been so for a very long time, Buzzer.