Own time WTD.

If I booked a week off whilst in full time employment and chose to do a week of training funded by myself such as ADR or HIAB or any other transport training would this count towards my WTD hours?

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I think your week off on “holiday” would count as 48 hours for the WTD.

Sapper

If I remember correctly statutory holidays count anyway so wouldn’t make any difference. Its already a 48hr week.
Sure some of the others will elaborate on this. (Or correct me!)

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Correct a week off counts as 48hrs for WTD. A single day holiday counts as 8hrs.

So you’re better off for your average by having five single days rather than a week which shows how useful the rules are :unamused: :laughing:

Unbelievable.

WTD is there to try to prevent employers treating you as slaves. The 48hr rule when you take a week off is to prevent employers using holiday to abuse the WTD and you want to find ways to help them to get around the system by voluntarily gaming it?

When you go to work on a Monday morning do you doff your cap to the guvnor and press a shiny pound in his hand to thank him for giving you a job?

toonsy:
Correct a week off counts as 48hrs for WTD. A single day holiday counts as 8hrs.

So you’re better off for your average by having five single days rather than a week which shows how useful the rules are :unamused: :laughing:

Work 1 hour a day on your holls and the WTD counts that as 5 hours for the week not 48 !!

Answer to original question is if anyone knows please

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Boris1971:
If I booked a week off whilst in full time employment and chose to do a week of training funded by myself such as ADR or HIAB or any other transport training would this count towards my WTD hours?

If the week off work will be part of the first 4 weeks of your statutory holiday entitlement it will be counted as 48 hours for the RT(WT)R.

If you’re just taking a week off and it’s not part of your holiday entitlement it will not count as any time for the RT(WT)R and can be used to reduce the average hours worked

For the RT(WT)R a full weeks holiday/sick leave ec’t counts as 48 hours, a single day counts as 8 hours.

If drivers go to any training by own money that this is not job.If get training by company money that it is job.For own money i can do anything in my own time.

If you dont need to put your tacho card in, who cares?
Crack on.

Conor:
Unbelievable.

WTD is there to try to prevent employers treating you as slaves. The 48hr rule when you take a week off is to prevent employers using holiday to abuse the WTD and you want to find ways to help them to get around the system by voluntarily gaming it?

When you go to work on a Monday morning do you doff your cap to the guvnor and press a shiny pound in his hand to thank him for giving you a job?

Maybe the OP wants to get some additional training to move on to a better position in another company?

However until he does so probably doesn’t want to rock the boat at his current job?

Sounds a reasonable question to me

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Boris1971:
If I booked a week off whilst in full time employment and chose to do a week of training funded by myself such as ADR or HIAB or any other transport training would this count towards my WTD hours?

If the week off work will be part of the first 4 weeks of your statutory holiday entitlement it will be counted as 48 hours for the RT(WT)R.

If you’re just taking a week off and it’s not part of your holiday entitlement it will not count as any time for the RT(WT)R and can be used to reduce the average hours worked

For the RT(WT)R a full weeks holiday/sick leave ec’t counts as 48 hours, a single day counts as 8 hours.

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Thanks for reply tacho, struggled to fine a definitive answer on regs after google search.

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The-Snowman:
If you dont need to put your tacho card in, who cares?
Crack on.

Some common sense, finally.

Boris1971:
If I booked a week off whilst in full time employment and chose to do a week of training funded by myself such as ADR or HIAB or any other transport training would this count towards my WTD hours?

Hi Boris 1971,

I’ll admit that I don’t have much idea about the machinations of the WTD, but I can tell you how things work when you take a course.

It all depends on who sent you. It’s as simple as that and regardless of who is paying for the course.

If your boss sent you, then you’re ‘at work’ because you’re following his instructions as part of your contract of employment. The time spent on a course under those circumstances is therefore ‘working time,’ the boss pays for the course and wages for you to be there.
Some companies have a course fee claw-back rule if you subsequently leave within ■■ period, but this does not cloud the issue of who sent you.

On the other hand, if you’re off work on holiday, you’re not subject to your boss’ instructions and therefore able to freely spend your time as you see fit.

It therefore follows that you’re not subject to anything to do with your employment if you choose to go on a self-funded course during your holiday days.

Many people do what you’re contemplating because then their boss has no say in it and you’re your own man at all times because you paid your own course fees.

:bulb: Dave’s tips:
If your firm routinely pays for DCPC, the tell the ADR/HIAB provider that you don’t need the DCPC element, then the ADR/HIAB courses that you’re paying for will be that bit cheaper for you. :wink:

If you have to get your own DCPC, then check your requirement and only book the amount of DCPC that can be uploaded to your DCPC account.

Depending on the course provider and how they’ve got their courses notified to JAUPT, you might well end up getting all 35hrs DCPC from those two courses, but I’d advise you to cover that at the time you make your bookings.