Withdrawing your card at the end of the day

the maoster:

Rossco75:
So the 6hr doesn’t include driving & working it’s just working time? If that’s the case my company have been taking 1/2 hr break of me for years then. Won’t be happening no more.

Someone will be along shortly to explain it far better than I ever can, but trying to keep it simple and sticking to the working patterns you quoted you will never need to take a break to satisfy the driving part of the regulations, and if indeed you are never actually “at” work (driving and other work added together) for more than six hours then no you technically never need to show a break. Hope that clarifies it somewhat mate.

I can’t really explain it better because you’ve explained it as it is, if you don’t do more than 6 hours working time (working time is other work and driving), and you don’t do 4½ hours driving, you do not need to have a break.


The rules for the working time breaks are:

Up-to 6 hours working time.

  • No break is legally required.

If the shift is more than 6 hours working time but not more than 9 hours working time.

  • A total break/breaks of 30 minutes is required, this can be taken in 2 parts of 15 minutes each and at-least 15 minutes of the 30 minute break should be taken before going over 6 hours working time.

Or (You are legally required to comply with either the rule above ↑, or the rule bellow ↓, but not both)

If the shift is more than 9 hours working time.

  • Total break/breaks should be at-least 45 minutes and at no point in the shift should you do more than 6 hours working time before having a break of at-least 15 minutes.
  • So for the 6 hour rule a 15 minute break should be taken
  • No later than 6 hours working time from the start of the shift
  • And*
  • No later than 6 hours working time since the end of the last break.
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Breaks for the working time regulations (RT(WT)R 2005) can be split into separate breaks of at-least 15 minutes each and cannot be taken at the immediate start or end of the shift.
Driving breaks count as breaks for the RT(WT)R and where appropriate breaks for the RT(WT)R count as driving breaks.