not really do away with it, just adjust it to the legal uk speed limit which as you know is 60mph
It’s a tough one really. If it was just me, I’d say yes, then I could waft past all you plebeians still doing 56. Would I trust some of the muppets you see with an unlimited wagon? NO.
60 is no good as you have no room for over speed.
I think it works reasonably well now apart from the odd douche bag conga.
Moot point anyway, never happen.
As my Dad told me when he got me a job at Nolans, leave the limiter alone, going faster only creates more work for you. As a result despite working for some right cowboys Ive rarely driven a truck without a limiter. So I obviously voted to keep it.
In the old days most trucks were governed down to speeds, now you have the limiter but if the truck was not meant to have a limiter when produced, classic trucks, which i really like, fuel consumption seems to be poor. My lovely old K reg had to have the limiter altered because it went wrong, only gave 1000 revs difficult to drive like that, altered, fuel economy improved greatly. optimum speed for best fuel economy was 59.9mph sitting at 1700 revs. Still in the green too.
viking35dp:
Employers must be loving the current results of this poll 61% in favour of scrapping limiter. My vote is a definite no because of all the reasons pointed out by josk/harry monk/mucker/rhythem thief.What next a poll to scrap the 15hour working day and increase that?
I think it’s fair to say that everybody who has commented that they would get rid of the speed limiter didn’t drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced, and everybody who did drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced would hate to go back to the days when we didn’t have them.
So for the newbies, I think it’s a case of “be careful what you wish for” 
Harry Monk:
jossk1990:
No why do more work for the same or less wages.That’s what many folk on here never seem to get.
If you can do more work in a given time frame, then this pushes wages downwards, not upwards. It’s like the raising of weight limits, when the weight limit went from 32.5 tonnes to 38 tonnes, and when the weight limit went from 38 tonnes to 44 tonnes, on neither occasion did rates or wages go up, they went down.
The Law of Supply and Demand is quite easy to understand, for the love of Pete don’t throw your hand in the air and volunteer to do more work for less money.
Blimey Harry I’m betting that you never did night trunking on job and finish.The only thing limiters ever did in that case was to add time to the working ‘night’ meaning more time at work for the same money. 
Harry Monk:
viking35dp:
Employers must be loving the current results of this poll 61% in favour of scrapping limiter. My vote is a definite no because of all the reasons pointed out by josk/harry monk/mucker/rhythem thief.What next a poll to scrap the 15hour working day and increase that?
I think it’s fair to say that everybody who has commented that they would get rid of the speed limiter didn’t drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced, and everybody who did drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced would hate to go back to the days when we didn’t have them.
So for the newbies, I think it’s a case of “be careful what you wish for”
Lets just say that the combination of no limiters ‘and’ log books instead of tachos usually worked out more in the driver’s favour ( IE more time available for sleeping or in the cafe ) than the guvnor’s.While at least a decent job and finish agreement minimised the worst aspects of tachos in that regard.
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
jossk1990:
No why do more work for the same or less wages.That’s what many folk on here never seem to get.
If you can do more work in a given time frame, then this pushes wages downwards, not upwards. It’s like the raising of weight limits, when the weight limit went from 32.5 tonnes to 38 tonnes, and when the weight limit went from 38 tonnes to 44 tonnes, on neither occasion did rates or wages go up, they went down.
The Law of Supply and Demand is quite easy to understand, for the love of Pete don’t throw your hand in the air and volunteer to do more work for less money.
Blimey Harry I’m betting that you never did night trunking on job and finish.The only thing limiters ever did in that case was to add time to the working ‘night’ meaning more time at work for the same money.
I’m on night trunk job and finish just now and can only imagine that if limiters were removed that employers would just move the goalposts to suit. Changeovers getting moved another 50 or so miles down the road, and what used to be a double man trunk could more than likely be changed to one driver. no thanks id rather keep the lads in work.
jossk1990:
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
jossk1990:
No why do more work for the same or less wages.That’s what many folk on here never seem to get.
If you can do more work in a given time frame, then this pushes wages downwards, not upwards. It’s like the raising of weight limits, when the weight limit went from 32.5 tonnes to 38 tonnes, and when the weight limit went from 38 tonnes to 44 tonnes, on neither occasion did rates or wages go up, they went down.
The Law of Supply and Demand is quite easy to understand, for the love of Pete don’t throw your hand in the air and volunteer to do more work for less money.
Blimey Harry I’m betting that you never did night trunking on job and finish.The only thing limiters ever did in that case was to add time to the working ‘night’ meaning more time at work for the same money.
I’m on night trunk job and finish just now and can only imagine that if limiters were removed that employers would just move the goalposts to suit. Changeovers getting moved another 50 or so miles down the road, and what used to be a double man trunk could more than likely be changed to one driver. no thanks id rather keep the lads in work.
Why would they want to move a changeover any further than around halfway ( other than in the case of breakdowns etc ) owing to the fact that you’ve actually made the job take longer by stopping one truck short. 
While in general however you look at it faster usually meant a shorter day/night and more time at home at least.At least in my experience.
We run down the road for changeovers with the trampers as well. What im basicly trying to say is that if they were ever removed I couldn’t see it being for the drivers benefit.
Harry Monk:
viking35dp:
Employers must be loving the current results of this poll 61% in favour of scrapping limiter. My vote is a definite no because of all the reasons pointed out by josk/harry monk/mucker/rhythem thief.What next a poll to scrap the 15hour working day and increase that?
I think it’s fair to say that everybody who has commented that they would get rid of the speed limiter didn’t drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced, and everybody who did drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced would hate to go back to the days when we didn’t have them.
So for the newbies, I think it’s a case of “be careful what you wish for”
I have run a pre limiter truck while on my own and I found that I never got hung out in the middle lane, nor did I have to ease off and sit behind a box van or fridge truck simply due to the fact I was 0.05 mph faster! and also I had the choice if I wanted to make progress
I also found that I could get myself in some free space rather than sit in a line of trucks all doing 55.5 mph, given the choice for me it’s a no brainer, get rid every time
when my truck is out these days it’s only for one load per day at around 2 hr 20 mins each way so its not a case of doing more, in fact it would do away with me needing a break a few miles away from the yard
moose
switchlogic:
As my Dad told me when he got me a job at Nolans, leave the limiter alone, going faster only creates more work for you. As a result despite working for some right cowboys Ive rarely driven a truck without a limiter. So I obviously voted to keep it.
Amen to that Luke. Respect!! Oh and likewise by the way but not Nolans
Anyone remember European Express Cargo from the early 90’s?
I was one of those soldiers lol!!
People whingeing about 50mph being boring obviously never ran France and Germany in the 80’s and early 90’s when 81/82 kph meant changing hands with money if you got a tug…
I think the limiters just be increased to allow 95 kph for trucks and 110 kph for coaches. I think professional drivers would obey the limit if there wasn’t one; my train has no limiter on it and there are plenty of straight bits where it’s tempting to go above the 90 mph limit.
daveb0789:
and there are plenty of straight bits where it’s tempting to go above the 90 mph limit.
I thing you need to rein your horses in a bit!
Harry Monk:
I think it’s fair to say that everybody who has commented that they would get rid of the speed limiter didn’t drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced, and everybody who did drive a truck before speed limiters were introduced would hate to go back to the days when we didn’t have them.
As a newbie I voted no to doing away with the limiter. 90kph suits me just fine, after that the job will just take as long as it takes.
Héraultais:
daveb0789:
and there are plenty of straight bits where it’s tempting to go above the 90 mph limit.I thing you need to rein your horses in a bit!
Lol it’s a train - it’s meant to go that fast
Yes i would do away with the limiter, before all the trucks did different speeds depending on the set up of the pump and the ratio of the diff etc. Much less boring on the motorway and no long lines of trucks all travelling at approx the same speed TOO CLOSE TOGETHER Just judge your distance suss when safe to overtake, put your foot down and go past, when well past pull back in to near side and drop down to speed you want to drive at. Limiters are dangerous IMO. For good measure go back to log books, 12 1/2 days 14 hr spread over twice a week 60 hrs week if needed. We were not taken advantage of, everything was run legal on firm i worked for. Grossmith/dalgety.
no , & for more reasons than the more speed = more work argument .
simply this , yes i too had a truck with no limiter all well & good , but just have a look at todays standard of HGV drivers very poor in my opinion they all over thr place at 56 , & even worse, doing 56 in 40 limits slow down chaps , i’m getting decidedly more nervey driving on narrow A roads more than ever when some knob comes racing in the other direction , go look on the transport crashes page on face book , it’s not pretty , & many are fatal if you had a higher limit that 60 , you’d still get idiots that would still want to go faster 
Can’t say drivers are any better or worse than ‘in the day’ but I’d not only leave the speed limiter in place, I would add speed limiters to all motorised road vehicles. I would use satellite technology so that it was impossible to break speed limits. As an interim, I would hand down very long term prison sentences to the company directors of haulage companies where their drivers are exceeding hours or speed limits.
Been around long enough myself to have enjoyed the heady days of no limiters, can’t see how that would work now, most of the motorways are too congested to drive fast safely.
You should ask yourself though, why is the Gov happy spend so much money on variable speed cameras and average speed cameras, but not a penny on technology that makes the job safer… cash cow?
thought lomas distribution had got rid of all there’s? hahaha 