OK Sarge I believe yer, just like I believed the spiel I was given in the 80’s 
Big company’s always reach a stage in their commercial life where it is much better to divest a big chunk of their profitable operation’s onto their employee’s so that they can become millionaire’s as well.
Regards
Dave Penn;
davepenn54:
OK Sarge I believe yer, just like I believed the spiel I was given in the 80’sBig company’s always reach a stage in their commercial life where it is much better to divest a big chunk of their profitable operation’s onto their employee’s so that they can become millionaire’s as well.
Regards
Dave Penn;
I’m glad you see the error of your ways
I certainly did Sarge and I certainly do
All the best
Regards
Dave Penn;
Rob K:
With all the “gar” noises he makes he should be called baby1 not ady1. In fact baby1 is a more appropriate name for him even without the noises.
i may have that as a name plate on my own truck when i get it,5 years time you may be seeing loads of trucks with the reg numbers baby 1,baby 2,baby 1,200 etc,but ill keep one for your truck when you come to work for me with BIG BABY 
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depot 
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depot
Job for life mate. GAR. 
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depot
nothing like 90 ,29 so im told[if the rumours true],ive no worries,ill be the one turning out the lights
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depot
actually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less 
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ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
The burning question on my lips is if they are making drivers redundant they must’ve lost a contract or two, what happens to their ‘GAR’ when they loose another big contract??
Redundancy costs a company in pay outs, all they need to do with a subbis is say “sorry, no work next week”!!! What do you do then?
Ross.
ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
Nice to see your so happy about workmates losing their jobs…
I’m sure they’ll give a flying ZB when you get laid off. 
bigr250:
ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
The burning question on my lips is if they are making drivers redundant they must’ve lost a contract or two, what happens to their ‘GAR’ when they loose another big contract??
Redundancy costs a company in pay outs, all they need to do with a subbis is say “sorry, no work next week”!!! What do you do then?
Ross.
no they havent lost a contract,that depot[department] has lost 2 million in 4 months[if the rumours true],so see theres still the work there too do,just has to be done at the right price,as for sorry we dont need you theres no work,as i say the works gar,they wont say it,theyve gar it
I’ve seen the basic offer for the OD now
The only guarantee is to pay the OD enough to cover the fixed costs. I guess this means the payments on the truck? There is certainly no minimum earnings guarantee.
Sounds very much like Maritime’s offer?
The Sarge:
ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
Nice to see your so happy about workmates losing their jobs…
I’m sure they’ll give a flying ZB when you get laid off.
i stood on a works comitee once fighting to keep folks jobs,i put my head on the chopping block for them,they everyone backed me to a man,until the ones who were safe were told so,they didnt want to know then,they couldnt give a ■■■■,whilst those lads who were laid off were not there,they were working o/t,asking if they could sell ther holidays[may of got one back if theyd of had there holidays],i approached them about giving a % of there wage to help the lads out who were laid off,didnt want to know.
those laid off were soon a distant memory to the ones who wernt laid off,i was the only one who went round to see if they were o.k,tell them how it was going,i refused to do o/t whilst they were laid off,i did my best for them,but i learnt your on your own these days,look after no1 as nobody else will.
ady1:
bigr250:
ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
The burning question on my lips is if they are making drivers redundant they must’ve lost a contract or two, what happens to their ‘GAR’ when they loose another big contract??
Redundancy costs a company in pay outs, all they need to do with a subbis is say “sorry, no work next week”!!! What do you do then?
Ross.
no they havent lost a contract,that depot[department] has lost 2 million in 4 months[if the rumours true],so see theres still the work there too do,just has to be done at the right price,as for sorry we dont need you theres no work,as i say the works gar,they wont say it,theyve gar it
dictionary.reference.com/browse/naive
having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.
having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information.
having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique.
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m4rky:
I’ve seen the basic offer for the OD nowThe only guarantee is to pay the OD enough to cover the fixed costs. I guess this means the payments on the truck? There is certainly no minimum earnings guarantee.
Sounds very much like Maritime’s offer?
our board says gar work,good salary,but its irrelevant,as ive said many times its only open to trampers[i asked],im going for the supeman job,£50 p.w,£2600 p.a for doing the same job i do now,itll do me for now
ady1:
The Sarge:
ady1:
The Sarge:
So Ady, marvellous opportunity for trampers to be owner drivers, but up to 90 being laid off at a depotactually it could be a good opertunity for me,fair chance i might pick up the work,i had a 5 yr plan but i may do what i was intending in a year or two less
Nice to see your so happy about workmates losing their jobs…
I’m sure they’ll give a flying ZB when you get laid off.i stood on a works comitee once fighting to keep folks jobs,i put my head on the chopping block for them,they everyone backed me to a man,until the ones who were safe were told so,they didnt want to know then,they couldnt give a [zb],whilst those lads who were laid off were not there,they were working o/t,asking if they could sell ther holidays[may of got one back if theyd of had there holidays],i approached them about giving a % of there wage to help the lads out who were laid off,didnt want to know.
those laid off were soon a distant memory to the ones who wernt laid off,i was the only one who went round to see if they were o.k,tell them how it was going,i refused to do o/t whilst they were laid off,i did my best for them,but i learnt your on your own these days,look after no1 as nobody else will.
Strangely enough I completely agree with you on this. You couldn’t be more correct. However, you are still extremely naive to most other stuff and spend way too much time believing anything and everything you’re told. Time you woke the ■■■■ up imho, but it’s your life…
if you dont try youll never know will you,i could carry on for the next 30 yrs as a company driver earning £7.00 p.h,or i could take a RISK[your words] and succeed or maybe fail,i believe i will succeed,by hard graft,but if i dont its not the end of the world[15 k to a lot] is,im lucky or maybe unlucky in that my parents died and left me a property that was worth a lot of money,£15 k is not to be sniffed at,but it never was my money in a sense,its wouldnt make a massive dent in what ive been left.
my own money would not get touched,just a perportion of what i was left.
that alternative is buy a new kitchen,car etc,etc,its a risk that could turn £15k into ziltch,but eventually,that car,kitchen,holiday will be worth ziltch,if it was my savings ,id think twice,its not ,its not putting my house etc at risk ,so if i could,which i cant,id go for it,i dontb want regrets,and there are folks out there whove succeded though hard graft,hopefully ill be one of them
ady1:
if you dont try youll never know will you,i could carry on for the next 30 yrs as a company driver earning £7.00 p.h,or i could take a RISK[your words] and succeed or maybe fail,i believe i will succeed,by hard graft,but if i dont its not the end of the world[15 k to a lot] is,im lucky or maybe unlucky in that my parents died and left me a property that was worth a lot of money,£15 k is not to be sniffed at,but it never was my money in a sense,its wouldnt make a massive dent in what ive been left.
my own money would not get touched,just a perportion of what i was left.
that alternative is buy a new kitchen,car etc,etc,its a risk that could turn £15k into ziltch,but eventually,that car,kitchen,holiday will be worth ziltch,if it was my savings ,id think twice,its not ,its not putting my house etc at risk ,so if i could,which i cant,id go for it,i dontb want regrets,and there are folks out there whove succeded though hard graft,hopefully ill be one of them
Oh dear…
Okay I’m done with this thread. I don’t understand why people ask questions and want advice yet when their questions are answered and advice is given they tell people they are wrong. If they already have all the answers then why bother ■■■■■■■ asking in the first place? 
Should’ve known better : author = ady1. Nuff said.
ady1:
if you dont try youll never know will you,i could carry on for the next 30 yrs as a company driver earning £7.00 p.h,or i could take a RISK[your words] and succeed or maybe fail,i believe i will succeed,by hard graft,but if i dont its not the end of the world[15 k to a lot] is,im lucky or maybe unlucky in that my parents died and left me a property that was worth a lot of money,£15 k is not to be sniffed at,but it never was my money in a sense,its wouldnt make a massive dent in what ive been left.
my own money would not get touched,just a perportion of what i was left.
that alternative is buy a new kitchen,car etc,etc,its a risk that could turn £15k into ziltch,but eventually,that car,kitchen,holiday will be worth ziltch,if it was my savings ,id think twice,its not ,its not putting my house etc at risk ,so if i could,which i cant,id go for it,i dontb want regrets,and there are folks out there whove succeded though hard graft,hopefully ill be one of them
I will forget the naive comment, and I will continue this thread as it may help others decide.
You have 15k to spare ady, you may have more and to be honest it was my thought when I was offered a similar deal. I didn’t have any money, so my thinking was if I start with nothing and lose it all it cannot be all bad. That was a longtime before Seasick Steve. Another reason for doing it was that I had experience of the job, the company traffic office and accounts.
If you want to own your truck, there are far better ways to do it than tying yourself into a lease contract with your current employer. You already have issues about the vehicles. You have posted them often enough, you have issues about the ability of the planners to plan, you have issues about lorries running empty and wasting fuel. What makes you think things will be any different? Oh hang on, it is Ady1, we best look after him he has a GAR
buy a unit, lease it if you like but do it on your own merits, if you are serious there are owner drivers and drivers who will try to point you in the right direction. Me. I am not bothered whether you sign your inheritance over to TSG. It would make a good read in Bullys Bar.
Ask Repton, he has done it properly and is in his early years, a truck he can afford, with a trailer that he can drop off and go onto other more profitable work if it is offered. If Britain start another war in Libya, Wards of Malton will get much busier with the Westler Hamburger contract, can you drop your Stobbie trailer and go and pull a fridge for Wards or Westlers direct. Paul can.
Rob K:
ady1:
if you dont try youll never know will you,i could carry on for the next 30 yrs as a company driver earning £7.00 p.h,or i could take a RISK[your words] and succeed or maybe fail,i believe i will succeed,by hard graft,but if i dont its not the end of the world[15 k to a lot] is,im lucky or maybe unlucky in that my parents died and left me a property that was worth a lot of money,£15 k is not to be sniffed at,but it never was my money in a sense,its wouldnt make a massive dent in what ive been left.
my own money would not get touched,just a perportion of what i was left.
that alternative is buy a new kitchen,car etc,etc,its a risk that could turn £15k into ziltch,but eventually,that car,kitchen,holiday will be worth ziltch,if it was my savings ,id think twice,its not ,its not putting my house etc at risk ,so if i could,which i cant,id go for it,i dontb want regrets,and there are folks out there whove succeded though hard graft,hopefully ill be one of themOh dear…
Okay I’m done with this thread. I don’t understand why people ask questions and want advice yet when their questions are answered and advice is given they tell people they are wrong. If they already have all the answers then why bother [zb] asking in the first place?
and you call me a baby,the 1 st time you dont hear what you want to hear you chuck your DUMMY out the pram and start roaring