The Sarge:
Also, there’s sometimes a clause that states you cannot haul for other firms. They don’t want you earning from their truck when they don’t get a cut It can be more like a franchise than being a true o/d.
how many more times wheelnut ,there gar you work ,youll not need to haul for anyone else
You can say it as many times as you like but the fact remains that there is no such thing as guaranteed work in this game. They can tell you all they want that it is guaranteed but you can bet your bottom dollar that if they go quiet or there is a contract loss that you’ll be out on your ear. You won’t get it in writing, that’s almost certain and if you do it won’t be that they guarantee enough to make a profit, just enough to stop you defaulting on the payments you owe them for the truck and diesel…
Paul
Paul, you cannot educate pork!
no-and you cant put nowt where there aint nowt can you U-NUT,ARE YOU HAVING A ZB SENIOR MOMENT,IF NOT GET YOUR SELF DOWN THE DOCTORS AND GET A TEST FOR DEMENTURE,YOULL ■■■■ IT
Well go to see the man in charge and tell him you want to do it. Just because they are asking for trampers doesn’t mean they wont consider you. I hope you do it to come back and prove me and the others wrong. I Gar that not all Stobart trampers will do this. I Gar that you will lose money and I Gar you will only earn enough to cover the lease and fuel in quiet times.
Wheel Nut:
Well go to see the man in charge and tell him you want to do it. Just because they are asking for trampers doesn’t mean they wont consider you. I hope you do it to come back and prove me and the others wrong. I Gar that not all Stobart trampers will do this. I Gar that you will lose money and I Gar you will only earn enough to cover the lease and fuel in quiet times.
ady1:
its no wonder this countrys going in the direction it is,down hill fast,when every one is so negative about everything,excellent oppertunities here for folks to better them selfes,whith no risk to themselfes,if i was a tramper my name would be top of the list,then when i come back in a year or two time telling you how well i was doing youd still be negative,positive outlook is what folks need
You are best with a realistic attitude rather than either a positive or negative one.
It is not a good time to enter the road haulage industry.
Don’t be putting him off Harry. Ady as an OD would be the funniest thing this site has ever seen. He’d be like Karl Pilkington from An Idiot Abroad, except it’d be An Idiot In A Truck instead.
The Sarge:
Also, there’s sometimes a clause that states you cannot haul for other firms. They don’t want you earning from their truck when they don’t get a cut It can be more like a franchise than being a true o/d.
how many more times wheelnut ,there gar you work ,youll not need to haul for anyone else
You can say it as many times as you like but the fact remains that there is no such thing as guaranteed work in this game. They can tell you all they want that it is guaranteed but you can bet your bottom dollar that if they go quiet or there is a contract loss that you’ll be out on your ear. You won’t get it in writing, that’s almost certain and if you do it won’t be that they guarantee enough to make a profit, just enough to stop you defaulting on the payments you owe them for the truck and diesel…
Paul
its no wonder this countrys going in the direction it is,down hill fast,when every one is so negative about everything,excellent oppertunities here for folks to better them selfes,whith no risk to themselfes,if i was a tramper my name would be top of the list,then when i come back in a year or two time telling you how well i was doing youd still be negative,positive outlook is what folks need,then theyll get somewhere in life,cant see it with a lot though,too far gone,maybe all the new ones comming through will grasp these opertunities
Seriously Ady1 I know that it seems like a good opportunity but don’t be so naive to think that Stobarts are doing this for the benefit of their drivers.
Think about it - If they got a load of trampers to take out a franchise (because thats what it is - its certainly not an owner driver job in the real sense) they stand to save a small fortune.
For each driver they would no longer have to pay - Sick leave, holiday pay, national insurance, pension subs and any insurance excess for accidents to name but a few.
I’m certainly not saying that you could not make a good living from it as you probably could with it being such a huge company, but you need to remember that the company will always try and sell anything like this in a positive light to its employees. But at the end of the day it will be them that will be quids in.
The Sarge:
Also, there’s sometimes a clause that states you cannot haul for other firms. They don’t want you earning from their truck when they don’t get a cut It can be more like a franchise than being a true o/d.
how many more times wheelnut ,there gar you work ,youll not need to haul for anyone else
You can say it as many times as you like but the fact remains that there is no such thing as guaranteed work in this game. They can tell you all they want that it is guaranteed but you can bet your bottom dollar that if they go quiet or there is a contract loss that you’ll be out on your ear. You won’t get it in writing, that’s almost certain and if you do it won’t be that they guarantee enough to make a profit, just enough to stop you defaulting on the payments you owe them for the truck and diesel…
Paul
its no wonder this countrys going in the direction it is,down hill fast,when every one is so negative about everything,excellent oppertunities here for folks to better them selfes,whith no risk to themselfes,if i was a tramper my name would be top of the list,then when i come back in a year or two time telling you how well i was doing youd still be negative,positive outlook is what folks need,then theyll get somewhere in life,cant see it with a lot though,too far gone,maybe all the new ones comming through will grasp these opertunities
Seriously Ady1 I know that it seems like a good opportunity but don’t be so naive to think that Stobarts are doing this for the benefit of their drivers.
Think about it - If they got a load of trampers to take out a franchise (because thats what it is - its certainly not an owner driver job in the real sense) they stand to save a small fortune.
For each driver they would no longer have to pay - Sick leave, holiday pay, national insurance, pension subs and any insurance excess for accidents to name but a few.
I’m certainly not saying that you could not make a good living from it as you probably could with it being such a huge company, but you need to remember that the company will always try and sell anything like this in a positive light to its employees. But at the end of the day it will be them that will be quids in.
as i say marky i cant do it[i think there deaf,dumb or just dont like listening],im doing the suoer man job[there words],but if the oppertunity comes up to do the o/d bit im going for it,i appriciate what your saying but i dont mind hard graft ,so ill make it pay,says good salary anyway,gar work so its money in the bank really,cheers
Fileep:
My mate subbied for them in 04, made agood wage but that was all. Another thing, wouldn’t all the drivers need their own CPC national?
there you areROBK and your band of merry moaners[MADE A GOOD WAGE],someone who done the subb/o/d bit for stobarts and made a GOOD WAGE-i rest my case, ,now what are you going to come up with,IT CANT BE TRUE,blah,blah,
1 to me
Well get your [zb] name down then! You’re another of the “I know best” brigade so get on with it and show us how it’s done instead of talking about it.
/thread.
now,now,theres no need to get like that [youve enough health issues already],never mind a blown fuse],ive already told you im not allowed too,but rest assured if the critera changes ill be a o/d
ady1:
its no wonder this countrys going in the direction it is,down hill fast,when every one is so negative about everything,excellent oppertunities here for folks to better them selfes,whith no risk to themselfes,if i was a tramper my name would be top of the list,then when i come back in a year or two time telling you how well i was doing youd still be negative,positive outlook is what folks need
You are best with a realistic attitude rather than either a positive or negative one.
It is not a good time to enter the road haulage industry.
thats right harry if i was setting out to be a 0/d,having to buy a truck,scratch around for work,all id have to do if theyd allow me too is have a float of 15k ,gar work,good salary,its a totally different secnario to the bloke who has to set uop from scratch,trucks,work,profits all there already,only stumpling block is lots of drivers havent got 15k,i have
personal insults really are unesscessary and say more about the author than the intended target,
(just like editing posts)
only one way to find out if becoming a franchisee with this compay is to go and ask the questions you want to ask and decide from there, always look at the bigger picture, tax benefits, asset ownership etc
If they are guarunteeing profits…just think why they are not prepared to put the vehicles on the road themselves instead of wanting people to be o/d’s.
“thats right harry if i was setting out to be a 0/d,having to buy a truck,scratch around for work,all id have to do if theyd allow me too is have a float of 15k ,gar work,good salary,its a totally different secnario to the bloke who has to set uop from scratch,trucks,work,profits all there already,only stumpling block is lots of drivers havent got 15k,i have”.
Back in the mid 80’s A1 transport from Leeds, anyone remember them were offering the same deal to become an OD and whats weird was they came up with this ‘great opportunity’ right after a big splash of national publicity for the company
If a big transport company wants to hive off a certain section of it’s operation and give their drivers the chance of becoming OD’s it’s definetly going to make them more profit and give the new OD’s less in their pocket and bigger headaches than they have now as employed driver’s GAR’d
It’s all been done before and I’m sure there are still some of us around who thought it sounded great at the time with all the GAR’s but got our fingers burnt
Gar work, Gar money, Gar truck, Gar payment, Gar profit, Gar headache
Guaranteed Bollox Whatever ‘High Profile’ and reputation the company may have
Dave, you cynical devil you! It’s people with no vision that are holding the transport business back! Why SHOULDN’T successful companies give away huge GAR profits
It can be more like a franchise than being a true o/d.
