Thing is, why do Stobart drivers care what other drivers think of them? If I was on for Stobarts and enjoyed it, I wouldn’t give a toss what other people thought of me.
They are a success story and the comment about the people running it are “stupid” beggars belief, look at the performance of the share price since they went public, you’d have made a lot of money if you bought from the get go.
Tesco have been their saviour and they will go from strength to strength. I have no love or hate for them, they are just a business striving to make more money just like any other.
The pay is industry average I would say and the job is a piece of ■■■■ with a reasonable level of job security in the current climate.
I work for Stobarts and I think it’s brilliant. I have a uniform (don’t need own clothes) I have a 08 plate lorry (not too many defects) I feel secure in employment (good for mortgage etc) I take home well over £500 per week (good for the family) and it’s not hard work!!!
If ANY other employer can offer me better conditions and other benefits (which I’ve not mentioned) then please contact me.
I get scorned and even ridiculed at delivery points because I dare to wear the Stobart uniform - I’m proud to wear it and will continue to wear it, I don’t really care what others think!!
I’m living the Stobart dream and that is the end of the story…Onwards and upwards is what I say
Rick B:
I work for Stobarts and I think it’s brilliant. I have a uniform (don’t need own clothes) I have a 08 plate lorry (not too many defects) I feel secure in employment (good for mortgage etc) I take home well over £500 per week (good for the family) and it’s not hard work!!!
If ANY other employer can offer me better conditions and other benefits (which I’ve not mentioned) then please contact me.
I get scorned and even ridiculed at delivery points because I dare to wear the Stobart uniform - I’m proud to wear it and will continue to wear it, I don’t really care what others think!!
I’m living the Stobart dream and that is the end of the story…Onwards and upwards is what I say
May I how many hours and nights out you have to do to earn £500+ quid a week? I’m betting it’s around 60, one and a half weeks work for most people. If you enjoy working for the company , good luck, that’s half the battle. As long as you’re happy why should you worry what others think?
Rick B:
I work for Stobarts and I think it’s brilliant. I have a uniform (don’t need own clothes) I have a 08 plate lorry (not too many defects) I feel secure in employment (good for mortgage etc) I take home well over £500 per week (good for the family) and it’s not hard work!!!
If ANY other employer can offer me better conditions and other benefits (which I’ve not mentioned) then please contact me.
I get scorned and even ridiculed at delivery points because I dare to wear the Stobart uniform - I’m proud to wear it and will continue to wear it, I don’t really care what others think!!
I’m living the Stobart dream and that is the end of the story…Onwards and upwards is what I say
scorned and ridiculed at delivery points, by who , cant think of any place i go where i get that, i just get treated like every other driver as far as i can see, as ive always been treated, never made any difference who ive drove for what i wear, some try to treat you like zb, some dont , what i wear or drive doesnt make a difference to them
Rick B:
‘…I work for Stobarts and I think it’s brilliant … I feel secure … and it’s not hard work … I don’t really care what others think … I’m living the Stobart dream …’
Silver_Surfer:
they are just a business striving to make more money just like any other.
Yes! but they make their money by [zb] and treading on other people; knowonder they get on so well with tesco’s, they’re an identical twin
yes but didn’t he start out like any other haulier, with just a few wagons and built it up. he was no different to anybody else he took chances and they paid off. everybody with a few lorries has had the same chances as him except he’s took them.
The business was started by ‘Steady’ Eddie Stobart in the 1950s as an agricultural business in ■■■■■■■■ His son, Edward Stobart Junior, was born in ■■■■■■■■■■ in England on 21 November 1954 at his parents’ house just outside Hesket Newmarket near Carlisle. He was one of four children, with an elder sister Anne, an elder brother John and a younger brother William. He was always called Edward to avoid confusion with his father Eddie. He was very interested in lorries, and when he left school, he started working for his father’s contracting business delivering agricultural material in the region. By 1970, the company consisted of three main parts: Fertilizer, Haulage and the Farm shop. The various parts were eventually split up between the family members, with Edward having haulage and the name, Eddie Stobart Ltd.
look at all the firms around longs, prestons, bedfords, macfarlanes, irlams, knights of old,… the list is endless all have the same opportunities as stobbies.
Silver_Surfer:
they are just a business striving to make more money just like any other.
Yes! but they make their money by [zb] and treading on other people; knowonder they get on so well with tesco’s, they’re an indentical twin
in a year and a half driving for stobarts ive seen us loose plenty of work to other firms and also gain plenty of work ,now if my right in guessing that your inplying they undercut every one why do they loose work, theyd just be getting more and more ,not loosing any.
i was told only the other day we wernt doing so many loads out of one place because another haulier was doing it for £50 per load less,stobarts wouldnt match it as theres a price and thats it.
i never really took any intrest in stobarts before i drove for them so if you say they undercut everyone to keep contracts ive no doubt your right, but that to me doesnt seem the case now, or at least not on the fridges
I think the rate cutting is a bit of an urban myth, or way before my time when it was run by Eddie. Now they quote a price, more than likely more expensive than most because they provide a better service than most and if you don’t like it, see you later, they don’t need the work and are making plenty of money.
Let’s be honest, most businesses will shaft all and sundry to make a buck, that’s the name of the game, worship the mighty shilling, always has been, always will be, sentiment doesn’t enter in to it…
You can polish a turd alll you like with PR and advertising campaigns but the shareholder is king. Public image is only entertained as a “concern” if it may hurt sales, bottom line.
The last firms to “care” were Cadburys when it was run by quaker man and others of his ilk in other businesses of the era. Cadbury’s is now just a faceless muilti-national who couldn’t give 2 hoots for the workers, can’t see what the fuss about selling it to the yanks is all about, they’ve just shut a factory in Bristol to transfer it to Poland themselves. Bournville is also a ridiculously out dated site and pain in the 'arris place to site a factory.
cheekymonkey:
Hi all, new here so be kind!
I drive for many firms as Im an agency driver, and Ive driven for Stobart. No complaints, but “why the hatred?”…sadly its only a sign of the times. There are those who think they are a cut above the rest because they have a nice lorry or a big wage or they get to wear a tie or whatever. Its stupid.
Take the petrol tanker driver whos on £35000+ and looks down his nose at the rest of us, he gets made redundant....and guess what hes worth? Correct!! £7-8 per hour, just like us.
The Tesco driver who hates Stobart drivers, then becomes one when the depot gets taken over.
My point is a lorry driver is just that, nothing more. Ive had good jobs and not so good jobs in my time, the thing certain is nothing stays the same. Be careful who you deride. You may end up as one! What does concern me however, is a previous post, "i work for stobarts and enjoy it the money is decent enough for me £400 take home for 60 hrs". Drivers need to start thinking like a factory worker. i.e. 60 hours = 70 hours (20 hours at time+half), that is nearly TWO weeks pay not one. I believe we are where we are because theres too many drivers who will do what amounts to 21/2 weeks work for 1 decent weeks money. For instance…“my rate of pay is rubbish, but I can get loads of hours in”!!
Welcome Cheekymonkey. You’ll get no grief from me about what you’ve just posted, I’ve been telling drivers for years who tell me “I get £xyz a week” that “no you don’t, you get £abc a week but you do two weeks work per week”
well said must agree with you 400 pound for 60 hours leaves you 30 hours the week after lol 200 pound and thats ye lot as its 90 hours a fortnight so normal folks work 38 hours a week on avrage work it out you get the same flippin burgers in macdonalds and they are not under the same presure as drivers who will never stick together and stand up for them selves
Everybody hates Stobarts because they cut rates and put firms out of business…but they are an English firm built from nothing.
But nobody seems to mention the Salvesens, DHL’s, Norberts, Khuene & Nagel etc…all foreign firms…that almost put Stobarts out of business, that take their profits out of our economy…and drivers queue up to work for■■?
This to me is what ruined the UK Haulage Industry, not Eddie Stobart!
My latest wage slip Mon-Sat 5 nights out 68 hours (which I actually drove for 39 hours) £740.80 Gross £602.51 net
wibble:
May I (ask) how many hours and nights out you have to do to earn £500+ quid a week? I’m betting it’s around 60, one and a half weeks work for most people. If you enjoy working for the company , good luck, that’s half the battle. As long as you’re happy why should you worry what others think?
60 - 65 duty time 4 nights out. Not really under pressure, been tramping for last 8 years and find I get more rest to enjoy quality time at weekends - unlike when working days and falling asleep on the sofa at home. It works for me at the moment, not to say it may change next year…or the year after
ady1:
scorned and ridiculed at delivery points, by who , cant think of any place i go where i get that, i just get treated like every other driver as far as i can see, as ive always been treated, never made any difference who ive drove for what i wear, some try to treat you like zb, some dont , what i wear or drive doesnt make a difference to them
There have been the odd occasion at delivery points when comments have been made and they stick in my mind. I was parked at Middlewich one night when 2 BTS drivers was having banter which in my opinion went over the top. Slagging a fellow driver who struggled to park and had a go at him - he’s not very big and took a bit of stick…I’m a bit bigger and stuck up for him (it was quite tight to be fair). They told me that BTS stands for Better Than Stobarts These were the same people that ■■■■■■ up there wheels when there was a toilet less than 50 yards away
cheekymonkey:
Hi all, new here so be kind!
I drive for many firms as Im an agency driver, and Ive driven for Stobart. No complaints, but “why the hatred?”…sadly its only a sign of the times. There are those who think they are a cut above the rest because they have a nice lorry or a big wage or they get to wear a tie or whatever. Its stupid.
Take the petrol tanker driver whos on £35000+ and looks down his nose at the rest of us, he gets made redundant....and guess what hes worth? Correct!! £7-8 per hour, just like us.
The Tesco driver who hates Stobart drivers, then becomes one when the depot gets taken over.
My point is a lorry driver is just that, nothing more. Ive had good jobs and not so good jobs in my time, the thing certain is nothing stays the same. Be careful who you deride. You may end up as one! What does concern me however, is a previous post, "i work for stobarts and enjoy it the money is decent enough for me £400 take home for 60 hrs". Drivers need to start thinking like a factory worker. i.e. 60 hours = 70 hours (20 hours at time+half), that is nearly TWO weeks pay not one. I believe we are where we are because theres too many drivers who will do what amounts to 21/2 weeks work for 1 decent weeks money. For instance…“my rate of pay is rubbish, but I can get loads of hours in”!!
Welcome Cheekymonkey. You’ll get no grief from me about what you’ve just posted, I’ve been telling drivers for years who tell me “I get £xyz a week” that “no you don’t, you get £abc a week but you do two weeks work per week”
well said must agree with you 400 pound for 60 hours leaves you 30 hours the week after lol 200 pound and thats ye lot as its 90 hours a fortnight so normal folks work 38 hours a week on avrage work it out you get the same flippin burgers in macdonalds and they are not under the same presure as drivers who will never stick together and stand up for them selves
think you will find the 60hrs was what he got paid for not what he actually did, he probably didnt drive more than 7 hours per day the rest of the hours was made up of breaks and the p.o.a and a little other work, the only way to manage long hours is doing this, the p.o.a is our enemy though cos if they did away with it, we would all have to be paid a salary instead of hourly rate and we all could have better working conditions and more time at home
JJSL:
Well, I 've just read this thread and I’m amazed at the comments from all area’s I’d just say that if you have a good boss and reasonable money, Great ! If you don’t look for another job, if none about keep you mouth shut and keep doing the job until you find one that you like.
If that means working for Tesco/Stobbart/ND/Asda etc then that’s the crack ! or go and get a job in another industry, Ho, sorry, forgot there’s no other industies.
This forums for the Professional drivers, well have a read again tomorrow night ?
Well said that man, I admire ESL for what they have achieved, their website plainly says how they cost / quote for a job, its pretty simples IMHO.
In this day and age, there drivers have more of a future, than some others I could mention…
Happy Christmas to ALL my followers @ 40 / 50 / 52
as ive posted before on here … i work for stobarts but couldnt give a toss what the truck our uniform says as long as im payed each week…as for stobarts been poor payers …load of bollox its just the hourly rate sounds bad at 7.20 …ive spoke to elddis drivers who our on lot less …my mate works for downtons out of gloucs hes on 8.20 our 8.50 a hour, which is more than my hourly rate…if we both work same hours, im always with out fail 50 quid a week better off…
as for them been a ■■■■ firm to work for …i honestly think all firms are same just different name on cab door…
but my findings our …never been asked to run bent…anything wrong with truck our trailer its sorted no arguments…im a tramper so out all week…im always back on last shift on a friday …never forced to run in on a saturday and never stitched up so i do run in on saturday…im never questioned where i am our how long i take doing things
dont get me wrong there are days when job does me head in and days when it goes great…trust me if they started messing me about id be off
as for jealousy… i dont even think its that…some people are not happy unless they are slagging someone down be it stobart drivers our whoever…they just need some one to look down to our slag off …my advice is do one and concentrate on yaself…
but one thing i have noticed…there is not one week that goes by, that im not asked by another driver what stobarts are like to work for…
stvme2519:
as ive posted before on here … i work for stobarts but couldnt give a toss what the truck our uniform says as long as im payed each week…as for stobarts been poor payers …load of bollox its just the hourly rate sounds bad at 7.20 …ive spoke to elddis drivers who our on lot less …my mate works for downtons out of gloucs hes on 8.20 our 8.50 a hour, which is more than my hourly rate…if we both work same hours, im always with out fail 50 quid a week better off…
as for them been a [zb] firm to work for …i honestly think all firms are same just different name on cab door…
but my findings our …never been asked to run bent…anything wrong with truck our trailer its sorted no arguments…im a tramper so out all week…im always back on last shift on a friday …never forced to run in on a saturday and never stitched up so i do run in on saturday…im never questioned where i am our how long i take doing things
dont get me wrong there are days when job does me head in and days when it goes great…trust me if they started messing me about id be off
as for jealousy… i dont even think its that…some people are not happy unless they are slagging someone down be it stobart drivers our whoever…they just need some one to look down to our slag off …my advice is do one and concentrate on yaself…
but one thing i have noticed…there is not one week that goes by, that im not asked by another driver what stobarts are like to work for…
And, most of the ESL drivers Ive met, seem quite happy, there are couple of moaners who were inherited from James Irlam, but, Id moan if i lived in Stoke
Its human nature for some to be happy, whilst some are extremely unhappy, even when you are on the same work / money / T+Cs ect.
From my observations, its whats going off at home, which dictates whether your a happy bunny or not, far too many drivers seem shacked up with scrubbers who turn the house into a brothel, the second your away, AND, spend every hard earned penny you have worked hard for.
I`ve seen some really good blokes reduced to nervous wrecks due the wife / witch playing up whilst they were away.
Silver_Surfer:
they are just a business striving to make more money just like any other.
Yes! but they make their money by [zb] and treading on other people; knowonder they get on so well with tesco’s, they’re an indentical twin
Yeah !! Lets totally discount the theory that they might be the most efficient, well planned operations in both their fields !!
,if only you new the truth,yes they do do alot of things well, but theres the times where you go are you serious,theyve only been doing the fridges for a year and a bit so as anything itll take time id guess to get everything run the way they want and how it should be,but well planned operations ,doesnt spring to mind at times.
4 hrs waiting for a truck
Silver_Surfer:
they are just a business striving to make more money just like any other.
Yes! but they make their money by [zb] and treading on other people; knowonder they get on so well with tesco’s, they’re an indentical twin
Yeah !! Lets totally discount the theory that they might be the most efficient, well planned operations in both their fields !!
,if only you new the truth,yes they do do alot of things well, but theres the times where you go are you serious,theyve only been doing the fridges for a year and a bit so as anything itll take time id guess to get everything run the way they want and how it should be,but well planned operations ,doesnt spring to mind at times.
4 hrs waiting for a truck
This happens everywhere, and will continue to happen when your extracting every working hour out of an expensive bit of kit, it does`nt take much to ■■■■ up well planned driver swops…
But, your getting paid whilst you wait, so, it ain`t all doom and gloom
TBF, planners fall into two breeds, the very good, and the not very good, where I am at, they have some brilliant lads, where you never wait for a truck / load, get everything explained, and, there are others who are oblivious to the cost of their very poor planning, never explain what they expect of you during your shift, keep you waiting even when there are units sitting outside
, cant think of any place i go where i get that, i just get treated like every other driver as far as i can see, as ive always been treated, never made any difference who ive drove for what i wear, some try to treat you like zb, some dont , what i wear or drive doesnt make a difference to them
