after reading the replied posts to my thread not one post or comment has a factual real argument and told me a genuine reason for not likeing stobart drivers, there was a comment by an idiot saying we are stupid to work for stobarts etc etc i can ease his mind i am far from stupid i just have a family to support, i suppose i was stupid to serve in N.I and iraq whilst he moaned about getting out his cab and doing a bit of work, or he is on a top wage and the type to say he wouldnt get out of bed for less than £10 ph, maybe stobarts has flooded the market and am not defending them but they employ alot of drivers who otherwise would be on the dole or competing for your so called top paid jobs,
and he commented on us being ignorant!!! i made the thread because i didnt understand why i deliver to countless rdc’s and the likes and get welcomed with dome and awkward ■■■■■■■, am a hard working positive person and i wonder is it cos i dont wear the uniform and they think am agency and whats wrong with that? or is it the lorry i drive displaying the stobart logo, or is it my scouse accent etc etc… its probably because most of the ■■■■■■■ who make the mind set and trend have probably never lived and still live with there mum, truth is we all drive trucks for a living and get pushed and pushed cos we all chase the money including the operators, personally i think we should have a hourly rate across the board as a standard that reflects the work we have too do. but as the thread has shown there is no chance of any of us getting a fair deal cos even truckers wont stick together, predjudice, racism, ageism, now stobartism!!!
Just type the word, these language dodges get tiresome !! Mike-C
Well, I 've just read this thread and I’m amazed at the comments from all area’s I’d just say that if you have a good boss and reasonable money, Great ! If you don’t look for another job, if none about keep you mouth shut and keep doing the job until you find one that you like.
If that means working for Tesco/Stobbart/ND/Asda etc then that’s the crack ! or go and get a job in another industry, Ho, sorry, forgot there’s no other industies.
This forums for the Professional drivers, well have a read again tomorrow night ?
bradders:
i work for stobarts and enjoy it the money is decent enough for me £400 take home for 60 hrs
That’s not even £7.00 an hr they’re extracting the urine out of you
did you read it right-take home after tax- what are you on then
I thought that, personally I’m doing class 2 work for £385 take home for a 42 hour week which suits me. But if your wages are enough for you and you like your job what does it matter what everyone else does?
OT I have no clue why people seem to hate Stobarts, I would say it’s probably down to jealousy in the main.
bradders:
i work for stobarts and enjoy it the money is decent enough for me £400 take home for 60 hrs
That’s not even £7.00 an hr they’re extracting the urine out of you
did you read it right-take home after tax- what are you on then
I thought that, personally I’m doing class 2 work for £385 take home for a 42 hour week which suits me. But if your wages are enough for you and you like your job what does it matter what everyone else does?
OT I have no clue why people seem to hate Stobarts, I would say it’s probably down to jealousy in the main.
i dont think its jealously mate i think the point is the stobbie haters dont have a valid reason and if there were an original reason most either dont no or forgot i think the older generation of drivers probably no, but this thing of this elite band of drivers is bull, we all drive we all passed the test just some of us were lucky and got better jobs, as a company at least you will be in work with stobarts for sure.
Marty B7:
they are strike breakers
and scabs should never be forgotten , they should be remembered for what they are
£400 for 60hrs… i despair !
you must be on mega bucks then mate im pleased for you and you dont know me to call me anything but frankly i have not got the time of day for unions they never did anything for me except take subs but then thats another issue…just an aside on strike breakers i dont remember stobarts running tippers full of coal out of the pits in the 80s do you hate those people too…lifes to short why dont you get on with your super dooper high paying job and stop being bitter…much love
Mackem:
ND have a new Zero hour contract - no g’teed hours, no holiday pay - just work when you’re told. Between the two I know where I’d go.
Really, first Ive heard of it
Had it confirmed to me by the contract manager in Sheffield. They’ve already got some at Wakefield on this apparently. Quality…
I know when I started at ND we were on a 48 hour contract which quickly got reduced to 44 hours
But then I suppose it depends on what side of ND you’re, transport or logisitics (though I have no idea what the difference between the 2 is!)
dustylfc:
‘… its evident that stobarts isnt liked … why the hatred? … can anyone enlighten me?..’
Isn’t there a shedload of difference between dislike & hatred - a distinct emotion that can too easily - yet inaccurately - fall onto the lips or be spoken when somebody, maybe simply, ‘doesn’t like something’ or an aspect associated with that something?
We are notorious for both knocking success whilst feeling left-behind with contemporary progress (ie, dropped wages): Lumping personal sensations onto stuff (drivers?) associated with Eddie might just be an easy, albeit an unfair hit?
I don’t understand the repeated sneering at taking home £400 for 60 hours.
Surely its around the norm for “ordinary” drivers.
A basic of £8 per hour would give around £560 on the top line, and depending on tax code. NI, and any pension deductions etc would bring it down to around this.
Before comparing it to anyone elses wages , it is fair to take into account the contract on which the driver is working.
Is he, for instance, working a Monday to Friday contract on days only, obviously someone working 5 over 7 would have a higher basic to compensate for Sunday working etc.
Night workers on the same basic + shift allowance of 33% would get on top line around £670 for same hours.
Another point to consider, some monthly paid drivers get paid only 12 times a year and if you count their monthly pay as 4 weeks this only adds up to 48 weeks a year, to get paid for 52 weeks they would need to be paid 13 times a year, whereas a weekly paid driver gets 52 wages a year.
So the £2200 per month take home COULD be actually be £507 per week if the driver is paid 12 times a year rather than the £550 which is assumed.
Or to put it another way 52 weeks@£400 = £20800 and 12 months @£2200 = £26400 a difference of £5600 per year.
That difference could easily be accounted for by any of the above circs regarding working patterns.
On a brighter note, I work(?) for the government and only earn £64.30 per week!!
del949:
I don’t understand the repeated sneering at taking home £400 for 60 hours.
Surely its around the norm for “ordinary” drivers.
A basic of £8 per hour would give around £560 on the top line, and depending on tax code. NI, and any pension deductions etc would bring it down to around this.
Before comparing it to anyone elses wages , it is fair to take into account the contract on which the driver is working.
Is he, for instance, working a Monday to Friday contract on days only, obviously someone working 5 over 7 would have a higher basic to compensate for Sunday working etc.
Night workers on the same basic + shift allowance of 33% would get on top line around £670 for same hours.
Another point to consider, some monthly paid drivers get paid only 12 times a year and if you count their monthly pay as 4 weeks this only adds up to 48 weeks a year, to get paid for 52 weeks they would need to be paid 13 times a year, whereas a weekly paid driver gets 52 wages a year.
So the £2200 per month take home COULD be actually be £507 per week if the driver is paid 12 times a year rather than the £550 which is assumed.
Or to put it another way 52 weeks@£400 = £20800 and 12 months @£2200 = £26400 a difference of £5600 per year.
That difference could easily be accounted for by any of the above circs regarding working patterns.
On a brighter note, I work(?) for the government and only earn £64.30 per week!!
sorry to here your on 64.30 but realistically i pay taxes which means you work for me so get round to mine and get me garden done!!
Mackem:
ND have a new Zero hour contract - no g’teed hours, no holiday pay - just work when you’re told. Between the two I know where I’d go.
Really, first Ive heard of it
Had it confirmed to me by the contract manager in Sheffield. They’ve already got some at Wakefield on this apparently. Quality…
I know when I started at ND we were on a 48 hour contract which quickly got reduced to 44 hours
But then I suppose it depends on what side of ND you’re, transport or logisitics (though I have no idea what the difference between the 2 is!)
But you are on a 40 hour guarantee are you not, same as me?
I bet this 0 hours contract is much the same as Stobarts have started and Fowler Welch have, it basically cutting the middle man ie the agency out and they ring up the driver as and when they need him, he does how ever many shifts per week and gets paid for them but no ties for either side
Wheel Nut:
The bloke who sneered so much at 400 quid a week posted a full time job yesterday with the Foreign office, £17k as a driver
say no more!! another dreamer probably drives the best in his fleet, was the first to drive a longline and holds the record for pulling a v8 scanny with his teeth
i,ve worked at stobbys and worked for one of his subbys and been there as a agency driver, and i found its not the bloke in general they hate(he retired anyhow) and its not the driver, it appears to be the depot and office staff, they can be very clicky and official, favourite sayings are --not in my depot, thats not company policy, you work when i say,you,ll still have time.
i have actually had a depot manager take my trailer off me on a friday night, just to get his man home and make me stay out, because i was a subby,
but i would still work there, because unlike some i work for the wage packet, not the cab or the uniform.
I will tell you what is wrong with 60 hours it is from the dark ages loads of jobs now are 38hours train drivers cuoncil ect ect you have to aspire to more than working a week and a half to earn what is a poor wage when you think of what is entailed in getting your licence alone…why no mention of firemen have you all forgot I WONT…
fuse:
I will tell you what is wrong with 60 hours it is from the dark ages loads of jobs now are 38hours train drivers cuoncil ect ect you have to aspire to more than working a week and a half to earn what is a poor wage when you think of what is entailed in getting your licence alone…why no mention of firemen have you all forgot I WONT…
but there arent any of those jobs out there are there…wishfull thinking if you ask me, shall i leave my really ■■■■ job then so you will feel better believe me there are loads paying worse than stobarts out there i know coz ive spoken to drivers on the site im at…i wont name them for fear of you shouting at the lads that drive for the firms. by the way your good at telling us what we should be earning what about you where are you at how much etc and if its that good can you get me on please
I am talking about the industry in general it is built around long hours , they keep harping on about safety bring in silly unimportant things.the wtd and its silly poa for one thing ,sorry but conditions are in the dark ages
fuse:
I am talking about the industry in general it is built around long hours , they keep harping on about safety bring in silly unimportant things.the wtd and its silly poa for one thing ,sorry but conditions are in the dark ages
i dont know why people go on about p.o.a as if its the cause of us doing long hours, i do 70/80 most weeks and i never use p.o.a, its rest,break or other work.its not even the firms fault half the time, its the places that take 3 hrs to tip 1 pallet , 4 hrs to load 6 pallets.
i went out the other day with 5 drops and 1 collection,i ended up doing a night out because noone wants to tip you[ i waited a hour at one place to tip a pallet,right on the back end ,2 secs to tip, after a hour waiting they then decide to go for a hours break , these are places staffed by the so called hard working poles of our country .and before anyone says anything its fact, there as bad as our lot half the time dont want to do zb all,
they’re extracting the urine out of you 
i,ve worked at stobbys and worked for one of his subbys and been there as a agency driver, and i found its not the bloke in general they hate(he retired anyhow) and its not the driver, it appears to be the depot and office staff, they can be very clicky and official, favourite sayings are --not in my depot, thats not company policy, you work when i say,you,ll still have time.