I can’t understand why they think its safe to drive at 54.5mph in the middle lane 
muckles:
I have no hard and fast rule about moving over when I see traffic coming down a slip road, I work on how I see the situation at the time.
Normally I’ll move over for a truck so they can get on, I’ll quite often move over for a group of cars.
I don’t normally move over for a car, unless I think it’s safer to move over than to maintain course and speed. I used to drive a Left ■■■■■■ and thought it’s better to hit the car entering the carraigeway than to move over and to hit the car I didn’t see down the side of the truck.I do a lot of motorway mileage in cars these days and I know keep my distance from other drivers joining motorways, because they slow down as they get to the slip road and leave me without space and time to get on. I try and have my own little area so I can plan to slip into the flow of traffic at my own speed.
But I do believe a lot of drivers think the traffic on the motorway is obliged to move over, this really needs to be addressed. I also think there should be proper training on this. Maybe pass your test, have P plates and then you must pass a motorway, night driving test within six months or a year or they revoke your licence.
Good post fella. I agree on a lot of points there.
When I have a car joining - I’ll move over for a lorry- I start muttering to myself ‘go or slow’ over and over again 
I stay steady in the same lane only to pass them at the point of entry and they’d be on the phone texting
mrpj:
albion1971:
however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.A NSL dual carriagaway? How long has this been a requirement? It didn’t used to be.
Been a requirement for many years now.
albion1971:
mrpj:
albion1971:
however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.A NSL dual carriagaway? How long has this been a requirement? It didn’t used to be.
Been a requirement for many years now.
Really !! - where might we find that rule please?
the crowning glory is when a car driver parks in the most ridiculous place i took a 32 tonne volvo to altrincham town centre as i turned in to the loading area behind the shops a woman parked her car got out and walked off i couldnt make the corner cars were behind me at this point grid locked the hole area for an hour lol police were frantically searching to get this car moved she then came back stuck 2 fingers up at me and drove off i wanted to drive over her sodding car lol
albion1971:
mrpj:
albion1971:
however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.A NSL dual carriagaway? How long has this been a requirement? It didn’t used to be.
Been a requirement for many years now.
Whilst there are sections of examination which include knowledge of dual carriageways and motorways, I am not aware of any current requirement to conduct any part of the practical driving test on one.
My apologies about that.It is not a mandatory requirement to take them on a dual carriageway however they can if they wish.
because they’re afraid to / don’t know how to drop a cog and put their ■■■■■■■ foot down!
Get it so many times it’s unreal!
I think there should be some kind of information made available to educate the general public.
There is,its in the Highway code rules 1 and 2 - Rule 1 keep to the left - Rule 2 give way to the right.
ROG:
albion1971:
remember all car intructors must pass the ADI qualification before they can train anyone.The part 2 ADI qual is supposed to be a check of their driving but it seems that it is only a test that they can drive like a learner so they can demonstrate to their pupils - at least thats they way I see it
I have had about half a dozen ADIs come to me for advanced driver training (the A in ADI stands for Approved not Advanced) and to be honest they could demonstrate ‘learner driving’ but were lacking in what I would term ‘overall driving ablity’
I expected them to be at least near LGV driver standard but was disapointedIt also seems from what I have observed locally that quite a few do not drive very well when a pupil is not in the car - not a good advert IMO especially with their driving school name board prominently displayed !!
LGV drivers can ‘breeze’ the advanced test
ROG, how much is an advanced driving test and tuition?
Had a coffin dodger coming down the slip road on the M42 a few months back,slow moving traffic about 5mph comes right to the end of the slip road and then just drives into the side of the truck
Unbelievable!! Got out and asked him wtf he was playing at and said I thought I was past you,a couple of scratches to my near side step his private plated merc was proper dented!! 
■■■■■■!!
The Coca Cola Kid:
I think there should be some kind of information made available to educate the general public.There is,its in the Highway code rules 1 and 2 - Rule 1 keep to the left - Rule 2 give way to the right.
That’ll do nicely, put that on a bill board in service stations etc,
"Highway code rules 1 and 2:
Rule 1 keep to the left.
Rule 2 give way to the right."
Soon spread the message (you’d think anyway)
albion1971:
Albion 1938…great post and most of what you say is true however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.Whether it does them any good is a different matter.
All driving tests need to be updated(inc LGV) and most drivers need their poor standards improved.Starfighter your attitude stinks
I prefer to think of it as pragmatic.
starfighter:
albion1971:
Albion 1938…great post and most of what you say is true however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.Whether it does them any good is a different matter.
All driving tests need to be updated(inc LGV) and most drivers need their poor standards improved.Starfighter your attitude stinks
I prefer to think of it as pragmatic.
I think starfighter has the correct attitude. I drive both lorrys and buses and see this daft joining approach to motorways and other two plus lane roads by car drivers all the time.
They really do get the hump when they run out of slip road and then hard shoulder 
, but why on earth can’t they put the pedal down an inch more and move into the gap, or slow down and slot in behind. It’s not rocket science.
As for the brake testing idiots, has anyone actually flattened some tool when they do this? If so, tell us what happened 
somerset bus driver:
starfighter:
albion1971:
Albion 1938…great post and most of what you say is true however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.Whether it does them any good is a different matter.
All driving tests need to be updated(inc LGV) and most drivers need their poor standards improved.Starfighter your attitude stinks
I prefer to think of it as pragmatic.
I think starfighter has the correct attitude. I drive both lorrys and buses and see this daft joining approach to motorways and other two plus lane roads by car drivers all the time.
They really do get the hump when they run out of slip road and then hard shoulder
As for the brake testing idiots, has anyone actually flattened some tool when they do this? If so, tell us what happened
You could always be a professional and ease off and let them in for once.
It seems a lot on here blame everyone else and expect them to do everything correct and if they don’t they are idiots.
You never see idiot truck drivers do you■■?
albion1971:
somerset bus driver:
starfighter:
albion1971:
Albion 1938…great post and most of what you say is true however every car driver that sits a test has to drive for a short period on a dual carriageway.Whether it does them any good is a different matter.
All driving tests need to be updated(inc LGV) and most drivers need their poor standards improved.Starfighter your attitude stinks
I prefer to think of it as pragmatic.
I think starfighter has the correct attitude. I drive both lorrys and buses and see this daft joining approach to motorways and other two plus lane roads by car drivers all the time.
They really do get the hump when they run out of slip road and then hard shoulder
As for the brake testing idiots, has anyone actually flattened some tool when they do this? If so, tell us what happened
You could always be a professional and ease off and let them in for once.
It seems a lot on here blame everyone else and expect them to do everything correct and if they don’t they are idiots.
You never see idiot truck drivers do you■■?
Be a professional and ease off ■■
Why the hell would you slow a 44t lorry to loose a car in, nobody has to ease off, the slip is an acceleration lane for the car to select his own slot, be it behind you or in front it doesn’t matter as long as everyone is making progress.
If you start slowing up for cars all that will happen is that they will slow up with you and make the situation a whole lot worse, not very professional at all !!
albion1971:
You could always be a professional and ease off and let them in for once.
It seems a lot on here blame everyone else and expect them to do everything correct and if they don’t they are idiots.
You never see idiot truck drivers do you■■?
Then the vehicle behind you thinks you are going slower and tries to overtake, or brakes and causes a line of brake lights down the motorway. This is the sort of comment that I’d expect from someone who has the theory, but not the practice. Most decent drivers will slow to assist someone if there’s no-one behind them, or move over if possible - and then sit there like a lemon because said car driver hasn’t a clue what’s going on.
grumpybum:
albion1971:
You could always be a professional and ease off and let them in for once.
It seems a lot on here blame everyone else and expect them to do everything correct and if they don’t they are idiots.
You never see idiot truck drivers do you■■?Then the vehicle behind you thinks you are going slower and tries to overtake, or brakes and causes a line of brake lights down the motorway. This is the sort of comment that I’d expect from someone who has the theory, but not the practice. Most decent drivers will slow to assist someone if there’s no-one behind them, or move over if possible - and then sit there like a lemon because said car driver hasn’t a clue what’s going on.
No not if you anticipate the situation and ease of the gas a bit without breaking.Theory but not practice eh?
Drove long distance for 5 years.Petrol tankers in London for 12 and much more.
Its not surprising you see so much bad driving from trucks on the roads when you read the attitude of some on here.
Blame everyone else but themselves.No wonder our reputation has gone down the pan.
albion1971:
grumpybum:
albion1971:
You could always be a professional and ease off and let them in for once.
It seems a lot on here blame everyone else and expect them to do everything correct and if they don’t they are idiots.
You never see idiot truck drivers do you■■?Then the vehicle behind you thinks you are going slower and tries to overtake, or brakes and causes a line of brake lights down the motorway. This is the sort of comment that I’d expect from someone who has the theory, but not the practice. Most decent drivers will slow to assist someone if there’s no-one behind them, or move over if possible - and then sit there like a lemon because said car driver hasn’t a clue what’s going on.
No not if you anticipate the situation and ease of the gas a bit without breaking.Theory but not practice eh?
Drove long distance for 5 years.Petrol tankers in London for 12 and much more.
Its not surprising you see so much bad driving from trucks on the roads when you read the attitude of some on here.
Blame everyone else but themselves.No wonder our reputation has gone down the pan.
Your lack of real life experience shows !!!
Don’t know about you lot but i have noticed it though but is it worth moving out when they just leave you standing in lane 2?