Kerragy:
At least we got to the point where Carryfast has been proven wrong. We can look forward to letting this thread die with some dignity now.
You’ve only been a member for a month and a half so we can forgive your naivety but if you think a simple thing like unquestionable evidence and every single other person saying hes wrong will mean carryfast will let a thread die then alas, you are sadly mistaken.
He will keep on going like a man possessed to prove he is right and that everyone else is wrong and if he cant, he will twist everything you say and/or change the subject to such a degree that by page 9 the thread will be talking about the soviets regime of the 1950s or that fordism is flawed in the socialist agenda of the thatcherite regime of Junkers Europe. Or both
The-Snowman:
You’ve only been a member for a month and a half so we can forgive your naivety but if you think a simple thing like unquestionable evidence and every single other person saying hes wrong
Feel free to explain what’s supposedly ‘wrong’ about saying that a roundabout can’t work if we’ve got people trying to use the left lane to turn right.Or that the correct rule is right lane turn right.Or that,in the absence of adherence to that rule,then using the right lane becomes unviable and everyone then has to join the muppets who think it’s ok to use the left lane to turn right.Whether ‘invited’ to ‘choose’ to do so,by the road planners,or not.
Or for that matter how does nmms or Fatboy slimslow’s comments,which rightly don’t seem to be saying that the driver in the right lane was supposedly in the ‘wrong’ lane,at least fit the description of ‘every single other person’.
So to conclude the only mistake that the driver in the right lane made was in thinking that it was viable to use the correct lane to turn right.With the road planners having added to the predictable problems of drivers using the left/wrong lane to turn right.
As for those who disagree feel free to go on using the left lane to turn right at roundabouts.
Carryfast:
As for those who disagree feel free to go on using the left lane to turn right at roundabouts.
How do you get off of the roundabout if you don’t use the left lane? Might as well get in it nice and early if the road planners give you the opportunity, no? The right hand lane can seem okay as an option I suppose, but where is the sense of adventure in doing it the same old way? Switch it up every now and then. The left hand lane is where it’s at for the happening drivers, no question.
I don’t have time to mess about in the wrong lane or worry about idiots who do, they have to paddle their own canoe. I’m getting by on nine hours of sleep here FGS.
Carryfast:
Leave it out.If the ‘signs say’ use the hard shoulder and there’s something sitting on it broken down you use lane 2 if possible.Which leaves the question who really wants to trust hard shoulder running instructions anyway on that basis.IE safety.
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Well I use the hardshoulder, when its been designated as a temp running lane, primarily because few others do, and it aids decent-ish progress, but here is the funny thing, I like many of My professional colleagues do this strange thing when behind the wheel, concentrate on the road ahead/beside/behind and keep our wits about us, that way, if an unexpected obstruction occurs, we’re on top of the situation, hey and here’s something even stranger, unexpected obstructions happen from time to time in any lane, so back to the keep your wits about you
Kerragy:
How do you get off of the roundabout if you don’t use the left lane? Might as well get in it nice and early if the road planners give you the opportunity, no? The right hand lane can seem okay as an option I suppose, but where is the sense of adventure in doing it the same old way? Switch it up every now and then. The left hand lane is where it’s at for the happening drivers, no question.
As I said only a naive fool would use the right lane to turn right when the roads are infested with this type of thinking and that’s just the ‘professionals’ let alone the idiots.That’s when the really adventurous decide to use the unused right lane to turn left rather than let all that road space go to waste.
Nah I dont think ill bother thanks, you bored me already. When ever you reach the point of using that phrase you inevitively launch into, well, the same speech you’ve given for the last umpteen pages just reworded in a transparent “im right and you will all bow to my knowledge” rehash. Its already been explained to you
Oh, and for the record, “everyone else” might not be 100% accurate if you include fatboy slimslow but if you’re relying on him as back up to prove youre right, youve already lost
switchlogic:
There is however the risk of going over. Belgium is a bad example to use, their roads are truly awful, so not sure where you get the ‘spending a few bob’ from!
Blimey you’re avin a larf if you’re really trying to suggest that there’s anything wrong with that interchange layout v the joke that is the M1/M62 effort.
While to be fair Belgium’s motorway’s were some of the best in Europe and still are at least in terms of design and layout.Until that is the East Euro invasion among others,like everyone else,going for a cheap un tolled alternative to the French autoroutes,happened.At which point it isn’t surprising that the road surfaces were/are falling apart quicker than they could fix them.
Nope, just saying using Belgium as an example of good road building is hilarious. Belgiums motorways have never been the best in Europe and most of them have been potholed roads to hell for decades. You won’t have noticed in your Jag but their design also leaves a lot to be desired, the camber on many of those junctions is all over the shop, can be like riding a rollercoaster!
The-Snowman:
You’ve only been a member for a month and a half so we can forgive your naivety but if you think a simple thing like unquestionable evidence and every single other person saying hes wrong
Feel free to explain what’s supposedly ‘wrong’ about saying that a roundabout can’t work if we’ve got people trying to use the left lane to turn right.Or that the correct rule is right lane turn right.Or that,in the absence of adherence to that rule,then using the right lane becomes unviable and everyone then has to join the muppets who think it’s ok to use the left lane to turn right.Whether ‘invited’ to ‘choose’ to do so,by the road planners,or not.
Or for that matter how does nmms or Fatboy slimslow’s comments,which rightly don’t seem to be saying that the driver in the right lane was supposedly in the ‘wrong’ lane,at least fit the description of ‘every single other person’.
So to conclude the only mistake that the driver in the right lane made was in thinking that it was viable to use the correct lane to turn right.With the road planners having added to the predictable problems of drivers using the left/wrong lane to turn right.
As for those who disagree feel free to go on using the left lane to turn right at roundabouts.
Five pages - impressive! When I saw the OP, I thought it might be good for two at the most. Then I saw somebody put 50pence into Carryfast, so thought it could stretch to 3 or 4. It’s looking good to hit 8 now, I reckon
Come on OVLOV JAY. FIXED week 00:00 midnight Sunday/ Monday morning. Weekend tramping fri Tuesday with an extra Wednesday. So I’ve had my weekly rest, and I’ve not done a FIFTEEN THE WEEK BEFORE and I don’t want to do one the following week AFTER I HAVE HAD ANOTHER WEEKLY REST! So yes six X fifteens can be done LEGALLY because you are into TWO FIXED WEEKS, after weekly rest and you don’t need to do split daily rests. I’ve done it in a former life, and it’s so simple. Work it out. Please
Fatboy slimslow:
Come on OVLOV JAY. FIXED week 00:00 midnight Sunday/ Monday morning. Weekend tramping fri Tuesday with an extra Wednesday. So I’ve had my weekly rest, and I’ve not done a FIFTEEN THE WEEK BEFORE and I don’t want to do one the following week AFTER I HAVE HAD ANOTHER WEEKLY REST! So yes six X fifteens can be done LEGALLY because you are into TWO FIXED WEEKS, after weekly rest and you don’t need to do split daily rests. I’ve done it in a former life, and it’s so simple. Work it out. Please
Fatboy slimslow:
Come on OVLOV JAY. FIXED week 00:00 midnight Sunday/ Monday morning. Weekend tramping fri Tuesday with an extra Wednesday. So I’ve had my weekly rest, and I’ve not done a FIFTEEN THE WEEK BEFORE and I don’t want to do one the following week AFTER I HAVE HAD ANOTHER WEEKLY REST! So yes six X fifteens can be done LEGALLY because you are into TWO FIXED WEEKS, after weekly rest and you don’t need to do split daily rests. I’ve done it in a former life, and it’s so simple. Work it out. Please
I’ve worked it out, as have the rest of us. The fixed week only applies to driving hours, not duty. You can’t do six 15’s without 3 split daily rests between two weekly rests. I’d say you were trolling us all, but trolls don’t normally try and make themselves look stupid, they leave it to everyone to pull them apart. You’ve managed both.
OVLOV and rob, not digging pal! You’ve agreed the four tens, sat, sun, mon and Tuesday.
Six fifteens is legal. It’s like five nights out in 5x24 = 120 hours and six nights out 6 x 24 = 144 hours! As long as your digis out before the exact time you put it in on your first shift back from a WEEKLY rest period! Come on, it’s not rocket science.