Who was at fault me or him?

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Blimey, do you think Carryfast’s computer has broke, 5 posts now without one from Carryfast :smiley:

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eddie snax:
Blimey, do you think Carryfast’s computer has broke, 5 posts now without one from Carryfast :smiley:

He’s taken his mum to the hairdressers, just wait until he gets home :laughing:

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He is now belting up/down the M1 to see this thing for himself.

If you are on the M1, keep a look out for a Hillman Hunter being driven by someone with a very determined yet slightly confused expression.

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OVLOV JAY:

eddie snax:
Blimey, do you think Carryfast’s computer has broke, 5 posts now without one from Carryfast :smiley:

He’s taken his mum to the hairdressers, just wait until he gets home :laughing:

Anybody remember that Ronnie Corbett sitcom ‘Sorry’ :smiley:

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robroy:

OVLOV JAY:

eddie snax:
Blimey, do you think Carryfast’s computer has broke, 5 posts now without one from Carryfast :smiley:

He’s taken his mum to the hairdressers, just wait until he gets home :laughing:

Anybody remember that Ronnie Corbett sitcom ‘Sorry’ :smiley:

I didn’t picture him being as tall as Corbett :laughing:

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Fatboy slimslow:
I’d like to know how these people are being taught nowadays. :bulb: :unamused: LEFT LANE TURN LEFT FROM SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND ELEVEN O’CLOCK with left indicator on. :open_mouth: not hard. :question: TWELVE O’ CLOCK IS STRAIGHT ON, no indicator needed. :exclamation: although it’s good manners to indicate your intentions of leaving AN EXIT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT. RIGHT HAND LANE WITH RIGHT INDICATOR ON FOR TWELVE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AND SIX O’ CLOCK IF DOING A ’ U ’ turn/ divert! :grimacing: all this dumbing down for F1 Ferrari drivers with class one licences NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT IN A LEFT HAND LANE IS PISH! Steve you’re in the wrong :laughing: many screwdrivers on here need to retake test. :smiley: TOO SOFT. :grimacing:

:smiley:

So there we have it.Left lane turn right is for modern day steering wheel attendants because it saves them having to work out which lane is needed relative to the exit points. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Although twelve is actually left lane.But obviously only if someone is lost in this case. :wink:

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Carryfast:

Fatboy slimslow:
I’d like to know how these people are being taught nowadays. :bulb: :unamused: LEFT LANE TURN LEFT FROM SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND ELEVEN O’CLOCK with left indicator on. :open_mouth: not hard. :question: TWELVE O’ CLOCK IS STRAIGHT ON, no indicator needed. :exclamation: although it’s good manners to indicate your intentions of leaving AN EXIT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT. RIGHT HAND LANE WITH RIGHT INDICATOR ON FOR TWELVE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AND SIX O’ CLOCK IF DOING A ’ U ’ turn/ divert! :grimacing: all this dumbing down for F1 Ferrari drivers with class one licences NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT IN A LEFT HAND LANE IS PISH! Steve you’re in the wrong :laughing: many screwdrivers on here need to retake test. :smiley: TOO SOFT. :grimacing:

:smiley:

So there we have it.Left lane turn right is for modern day steering wheel attendants because it saves them having to work out which lane is needed relative to the exit points. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

You are right with normal lane discipline. The trouble is whe signs are telling you to do things you wouldn’t normally, you assume there is a reason. If you ignore them you very often come unstuck.

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robroy:
I blame it all on Socialism. :smiley:

Blimey rob I thought you were one of the old school who’d be using the rule right lane turn right there.Don’t say the steering wheel attendants and their road planner mates have finally brainwashed you too. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

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Oh you are funny CF! :smiley:

While I don’t really want another farsical debate, I do have to wonder what you would do here…

google.co.uk/maps/@50.94549 … 312!8i6656

Assume you want to take the M271(S), which is turning right by the way, so which lane would you pick? :smiley:

P.S. Please please please try and keep your answer brief…

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Nightlord:
I agree it is a bad junction, but why on earth would anyone wanting to turn left or go straight on be in the right hand lane?

and why would you want to be in the left hand lane if your turning right

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Evil8Beezle:
Oh you are funny CF! :smiley:

While I don’t really want another farsical debate, I do have to wonder what you would do here…

google.co.uk/maps/@50.94549 … 312!8i6656

Assume you want to take the M271(S), which is turning right by the way, so which lane would you pick? :smiley:

P.S. Please please please try and keep your answer brief…

Maybe go out armed with a can of blue and white spray paint and paint out the M271 S in the left left lane just making it M271 N. :bulb: :smiling_imp: :laughing: While also removing M27 E on the basis that if anyone is using that junction at that point to go in either direction on the M27 should they really be driving anything at all.

Having said that changing it to left lane M27 W and M271 S only and right lane M271 N only would be a laugh just to see what happens.Which isn’t a lot worse than what they’ve got there now. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Seriously as I said if the road planners have made it left lane turn right on any roundabout only a mug would then use it properly by using right lane turn right. :bulb:

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Carryfast:

Evil8Beezle:
Oh you are funny CF! :smiley:

While I don’t really want another farsical debate, I do have to wonder what you would do here…

google.co.uk/maps/@50.94549 … 312!8i6656

Assume you want to take the M271(S), which is turning right by the way, so which lane would you pick? :smiley:

P.S. Please please please try and keep your answer brief…

Maybe go out armed with a can of blue and white spray paint and paint out the M271 S in the left left lane just making it M271 N. :bulb: :smiling_imp: :laughing: While also removing M27 E on the basis that if anyone is using that junction at that point to go in either direction on the M27 should they really be driving anything at all.

Having said that changing it to left lane M27 W and M271 S only and right lane M271 N only would be a laugh just to see what happens.Which isn’t a lot worse than what they’ve got there now. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Seriously as I said if the road planners have made it left lane turn right on any roundabout only a mug would then use it properly by using right lane turn right. :bulb:

It’s almost sounding like you’d pick the left hand lane to turn right, which would be the smart move! as if you picked the right lane, you’d end up with traffic also going around the roundabout on your left (n/s), and when you ended up on the M271(s), you’d be in the overtaking lane looking a bit silly! :smiley:

This junction used to follow your logic, where the sign used to say use the left lane to turn left and go straight over, and only the right lane went right on to the M271(s). But it was changed due to the need for more capacity to turn right, and stop traffic queuing on the slip road all the way back to the motorway. You would still get the odd cheeky sod in a car trying to turn right from the left lane if they could nip in in front of a slower vehicle like a truck. :blush: :wink: But what was more dangerous was the rare occasion of the left lane being queued up and someone coming up the right wanting to turn left, as that left turn is a dual carriage way… Now that’s fine as long as the traffic in the left lane actually wants to turn left, but while unlikely, traffic in that lane still has the option of carrying on to the next exit (i.e. straight over).

So in summary, the new layout is in the most part safer and works better with traffic demand!
See, you can turn right from the left lane! :grimacing:

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Evil8Beezle:

Carryfast:

Evil8Beezle:
Oh you are funny CF! :smiley:

While I don’t really want another farsical debate, I do have to wonder what you would do here…

google.co.uk/maps/@50.94549 … 312!8i6656

Assume you want to take the M271(S), which is turning right by the way, so which lane would you pick? :smiley:

P.S. Please please please try and keep your answer brief…

Maybe go out armed with a can of blue and white spray paint and paint out the M271 S in the left left lane just making it M271 N. :bulb: :smiling_imp: :laughing: While also removing M27 E on the basis that if anyone is using that junction at that point to go in either direction on the M27 should they really be driving anything at all.

Having said that changing it to left lane M27 W and M271 S only and right lane M271 N only would be a laugh just to see what happens.Which isn’t a lot worse than what they’ve got there now. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Seriously as I said if the road planners have made it left lane turn right on any roundabout only a mug would then use it properly by using right lane turn right. :bulb:

It’s almost sounding like you’d pick the left hand lane to turn right, which would be the smart move! as if you picked the right lane, you’d end up with traffic also going around the roundabout on your left (n/s), and when you ended up on the M271(s), you’d be in the overtaking lane looking a bit silly! :smiley:

This junction used to follow your logic, where the sign used to say use the left lane to turn left and go straight over, and only the right lane went right on to the M271(s). But it was changed due to the need for more capacity to turn right, and stop traffic queuing on the slip road all the way back to the motorway. You would still get the odd cheeky sod in a car trying to turn right from the left lane if they could nip in in front of a slower vehicle like a truck. :blush: :wink: But what was more dangerous was the rare occasion of the left lane being queued up and someone coming up the right wanting to turn left, as that left turn is a dual carriage way… Now that’s fine as long as the traffic in the left lane actually wants to turn left, but while unlikely, traffic in that lane still has the option of carrying on to the next exit (i.e. straight over).

So in summary, the new layout is in the most part safer and works better with traffic demand!
See, you can turn right from the left lane! :grimacing:

Meanwhile in places where they don’t mind spending a few bob to do the job properly.No problems with capacity or trucks T boning each other on the exit of a poxy roundabout here. :bulb: :wink:

google.co.uk/maps/@50.521018 … a=!3m1!1e3

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Fatboy slimslow:
I’d like to know how these people are being taught nowadays. :bulb: :unamused: LEFT LANE TURN LEFT FROM SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND ELEVEN O’CLOCK with left indicator on. :open_mouth: not hard. :question: TWELVE O’ CLOCK IS STRAIGHT ON, no indicator needed. :exclamation: although it’s good manners to indicate your intentions of leaving AN EXIT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT. RIGHT HAND LANE WITH RIGHT INDICATOR ON FOR TWELVE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AND SIX O’ CLOCK IF DOING A ’ U ’ turn/ divert! :grimacing: all this dumbing down for F1 Ferrari drivers with class one licences NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT IN A LEFT HAND LANE IS PISH! Steve you’re in the wrong :laughing: many screwdrivers on here need to retake test. :smiley: TOO SOFT. :grimacing:

Is this coming after your recent “six fifteens on the bounce is legal” post?

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For the avoidance of doubt -
To turn left, the right lane is not right but to turn right it is the right lane. But sometimes the left lane is right if the signage says the right lane is not the left one.
The left lane is sometimes the right one and the right one is sometimes not the right one.

Hope that clears things up

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Fatboy slimslow:
many screwdrivers on here need to retake test.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=135510&p=2158107#p2158107

See rule 1 of the top post

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Carryfast:

robroy:
I blame it all on Socialism. :smiley:

Blimey rob I thought you were one of the old school who’d be using the rule right lane turn right there.Don’t say the steering wheel attendants and their road planner mates have finally brainwashed you too. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Of course you use the right hand lane when turning right at a roundabout UNLESS signs or markings say otherwise which you are obliged to obey…it aint complicated.

It’s like the hard shoulder, you do not use as a rule (literally) unless the matrix say otherwise.

The third lane, no hgv.s usually, but on the 621 there is a stretch that hgv.s can use…according to signs and markings.

On the M8 you go into lane 3 to exit at a couple of junctions,…because you are instructed by the signs and markings :bulb:

The same in this case.

Is it really worth a 4 page debate ffs. :unamused:, Steve only asked if he was in the wrong, it was answered correctly on page 1.
No he was not in the wrong, he adhered to the signs and markings. :bulb:
So Carryfast instead of turning it into another 12 page saga, knock it on the ■■■■ head. :unamused:

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robroy:
it aint complicated.

No, but carryfast always likes to make it that way…

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the maoster:

Fatboy slimslow:
I’d like to know how these people are being taught nowadays. :bulb: :unamused: LEFT LANE TURN LEFT FROM SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND ELEVEN O’CLOCK with left indicator on. :open_mouth: not hard. :question: TWELVE O’ CLOCK IS STRAIGHT ON, no indicator needed. :exclamation: although it’s good manners to indicate your intentions of leaving AN EXIT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT. RIGHT HAND LANE WITH RIGHT INDICATOR ON FOR TWELVE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AND SIX O’ CLOCK IF DOING A ’ U ’ turn/ divert! :grimacing: all this dumbing down for F1 Ferrari drivers with class one licences NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT IN A LEFT HAND LANE IS PISH! Steve you’re in the wrong :laughing: many screwdrivers on here need to retake test. :smiley: TOO SOFT. :grimacing:

Is this coming after your recent “six fifteens on the bounce is legal” post?

you’ve never weekend tramped then? Once you’ve done the workings out, please come back to me. It’s easy driving around this little island of ours, I’m nearly thirty years into it class one, you’ve been doing it longer, it’s not rocket science.

week one! Friday to Tuesday tramping ( I used to night tramp ) no fifteens/ reducers
Week two, Friday to Wednesday. Six fifteens.
Week three! No fifteens/ nor reducers. Easy.
Fri, sat,sun then FIXED WEEK STARTS AGAIN 00:00 sun night/ morning, so mon, tues and Wednesday another three fifteens. Thursday off reduced 24 hours pay back by the end of the third week, blah, blah, blah.
Then another fixed week starts on the following 00:00 hrs sun midnight/ Monday morning.
That’s how to do it! Four tens as well, come on it’s not hard. Defensive driving that’s all it is.

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Evil8Beezle:
Oh you are funny CF! :smiley:

While I don’t really want another farsical debate, I do have to wonder what you would do here…

google.co.uk/maps/@50.94549 … 312!8i6656

Assume you want to take the M271(S), which is turning right by the way, so which lane would you pick? :smiley:

P.S. Please please please try and keep your answer brief…

I’d straddle the lanes hoping that a car would drive under me trailer.