yourhavingalarf:
Punchy Dan:
I can’t see the problem ,the suv has ZB up end off ,he set off up the inside of the lorry it’s clear to see on the video ,the lane the suv set off from is marked A46 and A17 only ,
Only the right hand lane has the option to go back for Newark .+1…
Two sentences sums it up.
Punchy Dan gets a gold star and is milk monitor for the rest of the week.
they don’t call it horn blowers roundabout for nowt
The lorry was in the wrong.
If the lorry was a car that had done the same thing by changing lane and hitting an SUV in the lane to his left, then the car would clearly be in the wrong. So the lorry was in the wrong. The lorry can’t make the excuse that the SUV was in his blind spot.
If the lorry had indicated left with plenty of warning, this accident might have been prevented as the SUV could have taken avoiding action. Lorry drivers are generally more experienced than SUV drivers, so should be looking out for them and helping to protect them.
carlston49:
The lorry was in the wrong.If the lorry was a car that had done the same thing by changing lane and hitting an SUV in the lane to his left, then the car would clearly be in the wrong. So the lorry was in the wrong. The lorry can’t make the excuse that the SUV was in his blind spot.
If the lorry had indicated left with plenty of warning, this accident might have been prevented as the SUV could have taken avoiding action. Lorry drivers are generally more experienced than SUV drivers, so should be looking out for them and helping to protect them.
How so when the it was the car which was turning right and cut across the front of the truck as the truck was on the correct course,in the correct lane,for that exit of the roundabout.Because the car should have been in lane 3,ahead of or behind the truck,not on the nearside of it in lane 2 because unlike the truck it was turning …right on entry not going straight on.As for muppets not indicating their intentions to exit,or continue around roundabouts,yes absolute useless zb’s.But irrelevant in this case.
carlston49:
The lorry was in the wrong.If the lorry was a car that had done the same thing by changing lane and hitting an SUV in the lane to his left, then the car would clearly be in the wrong. So the lorry was in the wrong. The lorry can’t make the excuse that the SUV was in his blind spot.
If the lorry had indicated left with plenty of warning, this accident might have been prevented as the SUV could have taken avoiding action. Lorry drivers are generally more experienced than SUV drivers, so should be looking out for them and helping to protect them.
Wtf 
It may be an idea before anyone else makes them self look stupid that they state where they live and how many times a week they use said roundabout .
Never understand the excitement with these. It’s essentially someone trying to incorrectly use the outside lane of a roundabout to turn right and it’s only ever going to be so long before they get taken out passing a two lane exit. Not sure why there always has to be the business about the driver should have been looking out for them - vehicles departing should be indicating to do so though.
Punchy Dan:
carlston49:
The lorry was in the wrong.If the lorry was a car that had done the same thing by changing lane and hitting an SUV in the lane to his left, then the car would clearly be in the wrong. So the lorry was in the wrong. The lorry can’t make the excuse that the SUV was in his blind spot.
If the lorry had indicated left with plenty of warning, this accident might have been prevented as the SUV could have taken avoiding action. Lorry drivers are generally more experienced than SUV drivers, so should be looking out for them and helping to protect them.
Wtf
It may be an idea before anyone else makes them self look stupid that they state where they live and how many times a week they use said roundabout .
Hang on a minute, just because you live in the area and use the roundabout several times a week does not necessarily mean you are using the correct procedure. Does it?
You may well be correct on the procedure of this particular roundabout but a lot of drivers become complacent about procedures believing what they do everyday is correct when that is not always the case.
It’s a sad state of affairs when there are so many different views about this accident and roundabout. Even the professionals are confused. 
As has been said the lines on the road may or may not be correct or may be confusing as is sometimes the case in many situations. I have even seen them painted incorrectly a few times.
Things need to be simple and obvious for the inattentive driver but that clearly does not happen very often.
As I said earlier in the post fault lies on both drivers although it appears the SUV was mainly at fault (from what I read on here) but any decent lorry driver(not on a mission) could have probably prevented the accident.
Own Account Driver:
Never understand the excitement with these. It’s essentially someone trying to incorrectly use the outside lane of a roundabout to turn right and it’s only ever going to be so long before they get taken out passing a two lane exit. Not sure why there always has to be the business about the driver should have been looking out for them - vehicles departing should be indicating to do so though.
I agree but some are marked to do so now a days. It’s crap.
Every chance the lorry driver knew the jeep was there…but expected it to take the exit.
As it should have.
commonrail:
Every chance the lorry driver knew the jeep was there…but expected it to take the exit.
As it should have.
On the other side of the coin, it may not have if the lorry had signalled left.
jakethesnake:
Punchy Dan:
carlston49:
The lorry was in the wrong.If the lorry was a car that had done the same thing by changing lane and hitting an SUV in the lane to his left, then the car would clearly be in the wrong. So the lorry was in the wrong. The lorry can’t make the excuse that the SUV was in his blind spot.
If the lorry had indicated left with plenty of warning, this accident might have been prevented as the SUV could have taken avoiding action. Lorry drivers are generally more experienced than SUV drivers, so should be looking out for them and helping to protect them.
Wtf
It may be an idea before anyone else makes them self look stupid that they state where they live and how many times a week they use said roundabout .
Hang on a minute, just because you live in the area and use the roundabout several times a week does not necessarily mean you are using the correct procedure. Does it?
You may well be correct on the procedure of this particular roundabout but a lot of drivers become complacent about procedures believing what they do everyday is correct when that is not always the case.
It’s a sad state of affairs when there are so many different views about this accident and roundabout. Even the professionals are confused.As has been said the lines on the road may or may not be correct or may be confusing as is sometimes the case in many situations. I have even seen them painted incorrectly a few times.
Things need to be simple and obvious for the inattentive driver but that clearly does not happen very often.
As I said earlier in the post fault lies on both drivers although it appears the SUV was mainly at fault (from what I read on here) but any decent lorry driver(not on a mission) could have probably prevented the accident.
I do not use it several times a week .
Possibly not
I use this roundabout about 2 to 3 times a year coming from the same direction that the lorry and SUV used so I KNOW the markings and can say that the SUV is 100% in the wrong
That is fact and cannot be changed … but it is fun to read others ‘opinions’
Own Account Driver:
Never understand the excitement with these. It’s essentially someone trying to incorrectly use the outside lane of a roundabout to turn right and it’s only ever going to be so long before they get taken out passing a two lane exit. Not sure why there always has to be the business about the driver should have been looking out for them - vehicles departing should be indicating to do so though.
Or they get taken out by someone taking an exit as a right turn from a previous entry.
Reminds me of this argument.
It’s no surprise that so many muppets get the basic rules of the road using roundabouts wrong when they are often being lead into it by equally stupid road planners in too many cases.Ironically truck drivers being some of the worse culprits.IE it’s anarchy in which some roundabouts are stupidly marked out as left lane turn right while others aren’t and many drivers who don’t even understand the correct procedure for roundabouts anyway.
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tachograph:
The reality is that on the approach to the roundabout the SUV driver had placed himself in the wrong lane, however having found himself in the outside lane he had every right to cautiously bear bear right while the lorry driver should have made sure his path was clear before crossing over to the the A46 exit, to say the lane did not allow the SUV to go right is complete nonsense.
Lets get this right.Truck driver is in the correct ( right ) lane of the roundabout to go straight ahead using the right lane exit.The car driver is in the wrong ( left ) lane to turn right.Car then fails to give way to traffic exiting the roundabout and predictably gets collected as truck understandably crosses the roundabout to take the correct exit using the correct lane.This could just as easily have been two cars and supposing the truck had been a biker then what.You’re saying it’s the bikers fault ?.
the maoster:
the lane markings (or idiot guides as I call them)
“To expect the unexpected shows a thoroughly modern intellect.”
Cyclist was a fault
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SUV at fault but the PROFESSIONAL driver could have taken steps such as move his fingers if that’s not too much effort or too much too ask to put a signal on to show other road users what his intention was and this may have avoided the crash. That’s all there is to it. End of.
Rowley010:
SUV at fault but the PROFESSIONAL driver could have taken steps such as move his fingers if that’s not too much effort or too much too ask to put a signal on to show other road users what his intention was and this may have avoided the crash. That’s all there is to it. End of.
Exactly right and that is what is lacking in a lot of so called professionals. It’s the attitude that I am right so I am coming through no matter what because I am bigger than you.
This kind of driving is becoming more prevalent on our roads and not just with lorries. There is very little respect or courteousy these days and I personally am glad I very rarely drive in the UK anymore.
BAD attitude = Bad driver. End of. 
jakethesnake:
Rowley010:
SUV at fault but the PROFESSIONAL driver could have taken steps such as move his fingers if that’s not too much effort or too much too ask to put a signal on to show other road users what his intention was and this may have avoided the crash. That’s all there is to it. End of.Exactly right and that is what is lacking in a lot of so called professionals. It’s the attitude that I am right so I am coming through no matter what because I am bigger than you.
This kind of driving is becoming more prevalent on our roads and not just with lorries. There is very little respect or courteousy these days and I personally am glad I very rarely drive in the UK anymore.BAD attitude = Bad driver. End of.
Yes bad attitude and lack of courtesy on the part of the driver who was trying to turn right from the left of a roundabout having entered it in the wrong lane,in failing to give way to the truck.Very likely at that point being in a front nearside blind spot and the driver reasonably expecting nothing to be there.
As for ‘this’ country feel free to try the same stunt in Italy 
or even France using the nearside on entry and on the roundabout to turn left and see what happens.
ROG has got it spot on.