ROG:
EASY - the SUV was in a lane that did not allow it to go right (see previous posts) so if it wanted to change its mind then ok but it must indicate its intentions and give way to those already in the other laneAs I said - EASY
Rog is exactly right ,I use that round about every week ,the artic tipper is correct , saves changing lanes on top of the A1 ,I do the same my self .
Punchy Dan:
ROG:
EASY - the SUV was in a lane that did not allow it to go right (see previous posts) so if it wanted to change its mind then ok but it must indicate its intentions and give way to those already in the other laneAs I said - EASY
Rog is exactly right ,I use that round about every week ,the artic tipper is correct , saves changing lanes on top of the A1 ,I do the same my self .
Is anyone saying the tipper is wrong? I certainly am not saying that. What I am saying though that as a professional driver he should have 1\ been giving a signal as that alone on a busy roundabout could have made the suv driver realise what was going to happen and have stayed back, and 2\ perhaps a couple more near side mirror checks and he’d maybe have seen that firstly that suv wasn’t signalling and secondly seen that the course of the car didn’t look to be taking the exit so sound the horn.
But no tipper driver not, just suggestions of things which can help avoid an accident regardless of fault.
Can`t wait for the beat season to start 
Rowley010:
Is anyone saying the tipper is wrong?
Yes I am, well the most in the wrong anyway.
Regardless of him joining the roundabout in the wrong lane, the car had a right to bear right, the lorry driver should have made sure the path was clear for him to cross over to the exit road.
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tachograph:
Rowley010:
Is anyone saying the tipper is wrong?Yes I am, well the most in the wrong anyway.
Regardless of him joining the roundabout in the wrong lane, the car had a right to bear right, the lorry driver should have made sure the path was clear for him to cross over to the exit road.
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How can you say that when the road markings state otherwise 
ROG:
tachograph:
Rowley010:
Is anyone saying the tipper is wrong?Yes I am, well the most in the wrong anyway.
Regardless of him joining the roundabout in the wrong lane, the car had a right to bear right, the lorry driver should have made sure the path was clear for him to cross over to the exit road.
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How can you say that when the road markings state otherwise
The road markings on the roundabout don’t show otherwise.
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Punchy Dan:
ROG:
EASY - the SUV was in a lane that did not allow it to go right (see previous posts) so if it wanted to change its mind then ok but it must indicate its intentions and give way to those already in the other laneAs I said - EASY
Rog is exactly right ,I use that round about every week ,the artic tipper is correct , saves changing lanes on top of the A1 ,I do the same my self .
+1. Can’t fault that. As someone who regularly uses that junction the fault lies entirely with those who do not read either the signs nor the lane markings (or idiot guides as I call them). The problem comes from the sense of entitlement that most motorists have. If I screw up on an unfamiliar road I do not bully my way across, I take my medicine and carry on on the wrong road until I find a safe spot to rectify my mistake.
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ROG:
tachograph:
Rowley010:
Is anyone saying the tipper is wrong?Yes I am, well the most in the wrong anyway.
Regardless of him joining the roundabout in the wrong lane, the car had a right to bear right, the lorry driver should have made sure the path was clear for him to cross over to the exit road.
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How can you say that when the road markings state otherwise
The road markings on the roundabout don’t show otherwise.
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I posted the link of the markings dated MAY 2019 which show 100% that the SUV was wrong
,the suv has come up the by pass from the sugar beat factory towards Lincoln to the roundabout and has set off in the middle lane which as the sign here shows you can’t go where he tried to go .
ROG:
I posted the link of the markings dated MAY 2019 which show 100% that the SUV was wrong
The link shows that the car driver joined the roundabout in the wrong lane which no-one is disputing.
What’s in dispute is that the car driver was in a lane that does not allow him to go right.
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Lorry driver was at fault as if he checked for cars entering his blind spot he would of known he was there
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tachograph:
ROG:
I posted the link of the markings dated MAY 2019 which show 100% that the SUV was wrongThe link shows that the car driver joined the roundabout in the wrong lane which no-one is disputing.
What’s in dispute is that the car driver was in a lane that does not allow him to go right.
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If I’ve got this right, the cam car has come off the slip from the a1 north bound and as approaching from the left of this image. The lorry and car are coming from the road on the right, having just gone over the a1.
Lane one filters off, separated by chevron and left turn only, effectively making this a two lane approach to the roundabout. Just under the lorry is an arrow in lane two showing ahead only. Lane 3 is showing ahead or right turn.
Highway code rule 186 give us this:
"When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise:
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane, keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout, signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want"
It appears that, although the lorry drivers observational skills may be lacking, they weren’t the one in the wrong.
ROG make up your bloody mind. First you said the suv should have given way to the lorry and now your saying the lorry is wrong. Which one is it?
tachograph:
ROG:
I posted the link of the markings dated MAY 2019 which show 100% that the SUV was wrongThe link shows that the car driver joined the roundabout in the wrong lane which no-one is disputing.
What’s in dispute is that the car driver was in a lane that does not allow him to go right.
The way I see it is left lane on the approach left only,lane 2 ahead only,lane 3 ahead ( lane 2 on exit ) and right only.Car driver was in lane 2 turning right ?.The rest is history and inevitable.
dieseldog999:
id say the main culprit would be the wazzocks who painted the lane markings ( or the lack of them ) as its not uncommn for there to be a complete lack of them after certain points on large roundabouts like that which leads to a who dares win scenario.
To be fair if anything we have too many different lanes and stupid road markings and layouts on the approach and through roundabouts with varying levels of information.
Whereas the continent generally has no markings at all on the roundabout itself,not even lane markings in France or Switzerland.Just relying rightly on the usual commons sense rules of keep nearest to the centre of the roundabout to turn left and nearest to the kerb to turn right or go straight on and rarely if ever more than two lanes on the approach.Regardless of how big the roundabout is.
The…
Unsolvable
Roundabout
Dilemma.
Nite Owl:
tachograph:
ROG:
I posted the link of the markings dated MAY 2019 which show 100% that the SUV was wrongThe link shows that the car driver joined the roundabout in the wrong lane which no-one is disputing.
What’s in dispute is that the car driver was in a lane that does not allow him to go right.
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If I’ve got this right, the cam car has come off the slip from the a1 north bound and as approaching from the left of this image. The lorry and car are coming from the road on the right, having just gone over the a1.
Lane one filters off, separated by chevron and left turn only, effectively making this a two lane approach to the roundabout. Just under the lorry is an arrow in lane two showing ahead only. Lane 3 is showing ahead or right turn.
Highway code rule 186 give us this:
"When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise:
signal right and approach in the right-hand lane, keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout, signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want"
It appears that, although the lorry drivers observational skills may be lacking, they weren’t the one in the wrong.
No wrong ,the camera car has come out of Newark town on the old rd .
The lorry has come up the A46 from the beat factory and has the option of lane 2 or 3 to continue on A46 but has gone in lane 3 the right hand lane other wise for A17 he would have to change lanes on the A1 bridge , although 2 and 3 say A17 once on the over bridge only the right lane continues to a17 .
I can’t see the problem ,the suv has ZB up end off ,he set off up the inside of the lorry it’s clear to see on the video ,the lane the suv set off from is marked A46 and A17 only ,
Only the right hand lane has the option to go back for Newark .
Punchy Dan:
No wrong ,the camera car has come out of Newark town on the old rd .
The lorry has come up the A46 from the beat factory and has the option of lane 2 or 3 to continue on A46 but has gone in lane 3 the right hand lane other wise for A17 he would have to change lanes on the A1 bridge , although 2 and 3 say A17 once on the over bridge only the right lane continues to a17 .
Ah, so they are. That’ll teach me to pay more attention!!
Punchy Dan:
I can’t see the problem ,the suv has ZB up end off ,he set off up the inside of the lorry it’s clear to see on the video ,the lane the suv set off from is marked A46 and A17 only ,
Only the right hand lane has the option to go back for Newark .
+1…
Two sentences sums it up.
Punchy Dan gets a gold star and is milk monitor for the rest of the week.
