Who do you sympathise with?

Dipper_Dave:
Well he has his 15 minutes of fame now, he has 2 more videos apparently- as if the first one wasnt incrimminating enough.

Links?

Dipper_Dave:

Ian58:

anisboy:
I note the video had been taken down :confused:

It can be seen here birminghammail.co.uk/news/mi … ge-9087940

:smiley:
Well he has his 15 minutes of fame now, he has 2 more videos apparently- as if the first one wasnt incrimminating enough.

:laughing: they must be the same footage but he’s just cut out the bit where he floored it!!

Own Account Driver:
99% of these people cutting in will be dicks but every once in a while it might be someone rushing to hospital because their child’s been taken ill or something like that.

Yes, but according to some on here it will still be the truck’s right of way and it will therefore be OK for the lorry ‘driver’ to keep going and force an accident which would otherwise be easily avoidable.

Anyone who keeps going and causes an accident to happen, as the guy in the video did, should have their license revoked permanently. The very fact that this guy thinks it’s a good idea to upload the footage in the expectation that it may somehow prove him innocent is unbelievable. He is a fatal accident looking for somewhere to happen.

Having just gone through all the posts in this thread none has mentioned that the idiot i
towing the caravan is in a live fast flowing lane and a risk to others coming along the motorway to go past the junction . This fact alone would see me let him in as having sat waiting to come off the M6 at the A14 junction and seeing some very scary near misses !!
The old boy is definitley in the wrong for performing such a late manoeuvre and assuming that because his indicator is on that he can move over but with no towing mirrors (required by law) he obviously can’t see . The lorry driver as a professional is also wrong for forcing the accident .
As has been said the lorry driver should have let the idiot in maybe used his horn but why bother isn’t it better to drive around knowing how many lives you’ve saved today :smiley:

News flash!

:laughing:

It’s in the Mail. They have him down as a van driver though.

bazza123:
News flash!

:laughing:

It’s in the Mail. They have him down as a van driver though.

Who are they blaming the moron driver or the ■■■■■■■ in a bucket fan?

The HGV driver would have been perfectly aware that the caravan wanted to move over.

Caravan guy was operating on the assumption that 9/10 people would just relent and ease up and HGV driver should have used common sense and accounted for this.

They’re both in the wrong, between the two of them they’re causing a partial blockage on Europe’s busiest road junction.

Just as an aside , the lorry drivers female friend on Facebook seems like a classy chick :confused: , well that’s going on what she wrote and the language used :unamused: :wink:

war1974:
this is why hgv drivers will never be classed as professional or skilled while these [zb] are on the road.

there is no skill left these days to be an hgv driver its all automatic and sat navs get them around from a to b just what sort of skill do you think is left for a driver in these days ?

foresttrucker:
Caravan guy was operating on the assumption that 9/10 people would just relent and ease up and HGV driver should have used common sense and accounted for this.

I think, last time he was down there that had 2 lanes, so the HGV would’ve moved into the left lane creating a space big enough for him and his caravan ■■?

But there was roadworks = no moving over…

I can’t believe he just drives into the HGV but I can’t believe the HGV driver didn’t relent to avoid an accident.

Another thing to consider…

Had this truck driver not been in a truck at the time, but in fact on a motorbike, would a collision have occurred or would he have avoided it do you think?

It’s a game/question of give and take and the situation is changing every half second and 10 feet.

Ultimately when you have two drivers not inclined to give, Mr Dashcam Warrior and Mr Assertive Caravan Man, these things can happen.

Maybe in an ideal world the HGV driver eases off, there is or isn’t a collision, but regardless he saves the footage and reports the matter to the police, and then the caravan driver is sent on an awareness course or something.

I’m not sure this is any worse than yesterday on the M40, when I eased off a bit to let a curtainsider overtake me. Then the very same curtainsider was happy to let a fuel tanker overtake him for a whole 10 minutes before dabbing his brakes and switching to the M5, while the fuel tanker cut across for the M6.

Nearly an accident while the cars around them were making last second decisions.

Can never understand why literally 1 or 2 seconds drive time is so utterly vital to some fellow HGV drivers :question:

Mikey D:
Just as an aside , the lorry drivers female friend on Facebook seems like a classy chick :confused: , well that’s going on what she wrote and the language used :unamused: :wink:

Yeh I noticed that, she sounds a right dirty mouthed cow. She needs summet big stuck in her gob to shut her up. :wink: :laughing:

Why didn’t the caravan driver just sit on the chevrons till someone flashed him in, rather than barge his way in front of the lorry. While I don’t condone what the lorry driver did, there’s no need for the caravan to be there.

robroy:

bazza123:
News flash!

:laughing:

It’s in the Mail. They have him down as a van driver though.

Who are they blaming the moron driver or the ■■■■■■■ in a bucket fan?

When I read it they were all against the caravan to be honest.

I reckon the girl was from a car behind to see if they could get through.

If it was me stuck I might be tempted to move a few cones and drive round the scene :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

To Robroy, what foul mouthed girl■■?

Is there a follow up video?

happyhebridean436:
Why didn’t the caravan driver just sit on the chevrons till someone flashed him in, rather than barge his way in front of the lorry. While I don’t condone what the lorry driver did, there’s no need for the caravan to be there.

Once the trucker stopped the toilet driver from getting in it turned into a willy waiving contest. And as the saying goes, pride always comes before a fall.

robroy:
she sounds a right dirty mouthed cow.

Thats exactly my type of woman! :laughing: :laughing:

waynedl:
Another thing to consider…

Had this truck driver not been in a truck at the time, but in fact on a motorbike, would a collision have occurred or would he have avoided it do you think?

Irrelevant. Any decent biker would be the other side of the caravan passing everything! :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Isn’t this dashcam mount a little on the low side for a truck?

My money went on it being a “White Van Man” dashcam. The language fitted better than one of us as well I thought. There would be lots of [zb]'s rather than 's right? :smiling_imp:
The way he just ploughed into the cutting-in caravan tower would suggest he had nothing but contempt for his own vehicle as well, which leads me to the conclusion that YES it was a works vehicle, but NO it wasn’t one with a tacho/digicard in it - ie no way a professional’s vehicle. Odds on he doesn’t hold a blue card either.

Who would drive like this in their own car, let alone a truck they’d be expected to drive every day?
People think having a dashcam in the front exonerates them of any blame for anything whatsoever. I bet the insurer ramps up their premiums for sideswiping/rear ending the caravan, seeing as that’s what’s on the footage here…

All in all, Not one of us I think… :bulb:

DaiDap:

waynedl:
Another thing to consider…

Had this truck driver not been in a truck at the time, but in fact on a motorbike, would a collision have occurred or would he have avoided it do you think?

Irrelevant. Any decent biker would be the other side of the caravan passing everything! :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

You know what I mean, if he wasn’t so safe in his big cage, flexing all those muscles, and instead was likely to get injured, would the collision have happened?

The answer is surely NO.

foresttrucker:
It’s a game/question of give and take and the situation is changing every half second and 10 feet.

Ultimately when you have two drivers not inclined to give, Mr Dashcam Warrior and Mr Assertive Caravan Man, these things can happen.

Maybe in an ideal world the HGV driver eases off, there is or isn’t a collision, but regardless he saves the footage and reports the matter to the police, and then the caravan driver is sent on an awareness course or something.

The thing is, if when the 4x4 had gone past to it’s furthest point (roughly caravan axle level with front of truck?? Ish?) and the HGV driver eased off, then what would the footage actually show?
Someone leaving till a bit late to get in the slip road? Someone who’s made an error of judgement and been allowed to proceed?

It wouldn’t exactly be ‘pass it on to the Police’ footage would it?