Which one to go for?

Mmmmmm interesting thread.

Ive only just started having nights out, I’m married but have no kids. I only have 1-3 nights out max.

I’m waiting in doing my class 1 once I’m passed (all being well!!!) ill be straight on to a contact I made on here for poss container tramping.

But, and I’m sorry mate but I have to say, if I had a wee one id be straight on days. As the others have said mate there only young once.

I have 3 niece’s a great niece and 2 god sons they mean the world to me. So I can only use them for comparision. Our relationships are amazing we are so close and as far as I’m concerned thats totally down to the huge amount of time I spent with them as wee ones.

Now I know you will prob be offended. Hence my politeness. But mate you really need to have a think…

Surely family comes 1st■■?

why don’t
you all stop having a go at the kid if he wants to spend the week in a tin box with no screaming ankle biter and no nagging let him be oh and try maritime again last I heard the longest serving driver at Northampton was only ther 2 year’s so cab hopping should be extinct and the amount of driver’s leaving since the bought out roadways yu should have no problem getting your own scabby scania

samsgrandad:
why don’t
you all stop having a go at the kid

because he asked for advice :unamused: and wether he wants it or not he,s going to get it :laughing:

Trucker8oy:

seth 70:
I think id be choosing a steady day job for a supermarket etc earning good money and seeing my young un grow up,rather than driving a [new shape volvo]for stobarts on buttons,your heads a shed man what you are saying is very wrong and selfish,you can drive the [new shape volvo] anytime,your kid is young once :unamused:

I know i know… It is wrong i do admit. But its like a drug to me. Ive been doing this for only 5yrs so im fairly new to this. i still havent got enough of it. :frowning: ive only done tramping for three months while i was at maritime but i freakin loved it hate being a day man… at the moment. Moneys good but thats not what i want…

Surely this is has got to be somebody typing bollox and having a laugh at our expense ,nobody can be this daft,hes on days and on good money at the minute ,but he just wants to tramp because he loves it ,never mind the wife and kid,hes extracting the urine got to be :unamused:

Trucker8oy:

neilp1982:
If agency blokes get it to trash it about surely they would give it to a tramper. Well i would if i was in charge :smiley:

Yes,because only agency drivers abuse trucks. Full time employees always treat them with 100% respect :open_mouth:

chaversdad:

samsgrandad:
why don’t
you all stop having a go at the kid

because he asked for advice :unamused: and wether he wants it or not he,s going to get it :laughing:

To be fair,he asked for advise re working for Stobarts. He didn’t ask for relationship advise. She might be one of those types of people who enjoys the space etc,as is he.
I would love to tramp. It’s always something ive fancied. But as a married man I know my wife wouldn’t like it. And nor would I after 1 night probably :blush:
But if the OP and his missus have agreed to it then who is anyone else to call him names and critisise the decision they have both come to?
And to say his partner will be shagging anything that moves if/when he does go tramping is a bit out of order. You don’t even know her.

Its a mixed bag of oppinions really. My parents and my wifes parents are living in the same town so shes never gonna be alone. One of the biggest reasons why am i going to tramp is so we could save money for the deposit so we could get a house. We’re gonna move into a smaller property to speed up the saving process. Dont think that i dont have a heart and that im not gonna miss my family. I said once we get a house i could go back on days and pick up where we left off. Dont really like discussing my personal life with strangers but i had to to defense my self a bit :slight_smile:

Trucker8oy:

seth 70:
I think id be choosing a steady day job for a supermarket etc earning good money and seeing my young un grow up,rather than driving a [new shape volvo]for stobarts on buttons,your heads a shed man what you are saying is very wrong and selfish,you can drive the [new shape volvo] anytime,your kid is young once :unamused:

I know i know… It is wrong i do admit. But its like a drug to me. Ive been doing this for only 5yrs so im fairly new to this. i still havent got enough of it. :frowning: ive only done tramping for three months while i was at maritime but i freakin loved it hate being a day man… at the moment. Moneys good but thats not what i want…

Here’s my advice to you,(for what it’s worth :smiley: ).
I came away from tramping for a large firm because the time away and suffering from a little ill health drove me up the wall.and I used to love tramping.
I went on days for a while and the time at home was better but I really didn’t like the firm.
Then a year ago I got a job at a small family haulage company,I get my own truck that is oldish but very smart and do occasional nights out,the hours are still long but at the end of a long day I go home to my wife and 5 week old baby and a hot meal and a shower.
I see my job as a happy medium where the hours are long so the wage is still good but I’m not losing out on seeing my family because I can notice small changes in my baby day by day so god knows what a week would be like…

I’ve never personally understood myself why anyone would want to spend their working week sleeping in a lorry on a cramped bunk behind the seats. I’m 31 and don’t have any kids yet and you wouldn’t catch me doing 1 night out a year let alone 4 or 5 a week every week. I like going to work in the morning and coming home to MY OWN HOME in the afternoon/evening like most normal people do in their working careers.

Saying that however I don’t think it’s for me or anyone else to pass judgement on someone’s else’s situation. If the op feels that’s the best thing for his family then that’s his choice. Also I think we should remember lorry drivers aren’t the only ones who work away from home for period’s of time. What about all the men and women in the forces doing tours for months on end, oil rig workers, airline pilots and cabin crews, construction contractors who work away for the week to name some examples that came into my head as I write this.

I’m away for 3 weeks at a time in the aviation industry, followed by 10-14 days off which is a little extreme for the industry but not the type of work I do. Normally a long haul roster out of the UK would be away 4 days, 2 days off, 7 days away, 5 off, away 5 days, off 3 days, away 3 days maybe off 2 days. That kind of thing 10-12 days off a month. It’s very disruptive on homelife. You come home and don’t fit into any kind of routine. The first day home is a wipe out due jetlag, you have stacks of washing to do and wonder around in a zombie like state getting under people’s feet whilst on the come down from culture shock then before you know it you’re away again. High divorce rate on long haul, although some prefer to short haul where although you’re back and see kids every night, you’re in bed before them and knackered, just a different kind of knackered.

My old man chose tramping when we were kids due the subsistence money as proportionally it was much more extra compared to the rest of the wage than it is now. Now it’s not proportionally as big an extra compared to a main wage.

Right mate, here’s my contribution and I will be direct and not ■■■■ about so you may not like it but I don’t give a rat’s ■■■.
You sound to me mate that you have not grown up yet, the bit that got me was when you said along the lines of ‘‘The moneys good but that’s not what I want’’ and you are more concerned about whether you will be driving a bloody Volvo or a Scania ffs. :unamused:
You have a family, you say you are going tramping to make money to save up…■■■■■■■■, tramping ain’t some fabulously paid job, you are going tramping as you seem to have some misguided romanticized view of it, so at least admit that and stop making out it is for some righteous unselfish motive.

As for your sweeping general statement about all small firms running bent and using dodgy motors…again, absolute ■■■■■■■■, and an insult to all small hauliers. It looks like you have swallowed all the horse ■■■■ on the Stobart TV show, so you will fit in there well I reckon.

Speaking as somebody who missed all my 4 kids grow up who are now from 18 to 29, through tramping, I would say to you have a bloody good think about what you are doing as believe me, you will regret it, the best years of this job went 20 odd years ago, so you have missed the boat mate, it ain’t worth a ■■■■ anymore.
So stop looking at it through rosy glasses, don’t listen to the Cabhappys and Tankpolishers :unamused: on here, grow up and forget about ■■■■■■ Volvos and Scanias and more about your real priorities, who gives a ■■■■ about truck marques when you have a young wife and kid.
Also Left hand down’s point is always potentially in the equation(and I thought I was direct :laughing: )

Christ my talents are wasted driving, I’m gonna start an advice forum on here…, to the point, no sympathy and no bull ■■■■, or I might even join The Samaritans and make suicidal people feel better :smiley:

robroy:
Right mate, here’s my contribution and I will be direct and not [zb] about so you may not like it but I don’t give a rat’s ■■■.
You sound to me mate that you have not grown up yet, the bit that got me was when you said along the lines of ‘‘The moneys good but that’s not what I want’’ and you are more concerned about whether you will be driving a bloody Volvo or a Scania ffs. :unamused:
You have a family, you say you are going tramping to make money to save up…■■■■■■■■, tramping ain’t some fabulously paid job, you are going tramping as you seem to have some misguided romanticized view of it, so at least admit that and stop making out it is for some righteous unselfish motive.

As for your sweeping general statement about all small firms running bent and using dodgy motors…again, absolute ■■■■■■■■, and an insult to all small hauliers. It looks like you have swallowed all the horse [zb] on the Stobart TV show, so you will fit in there well I reckon.

Speaking as somebody who missed all my 4 kids grow up who are now from 18 to 29, through tramping, I would say to you have a bloody good think about what you are doing as believe me, you will regret it, the best years of this job went 20 odd years ago, so you have missed the boat mate, it ain’t worth a [zb] anymore.
So stop looking at it through rosy glasses, don’t listen to the Cabhappys and Tankpolishers :unamused: on here, grow up and forget about [zb] Volvos and Scanias and more about your real priorities, who gives a [zb] about truck marques when you have a young wife and kid.
Also Left hand down’s point is always potentially in the equation(and I thought I was direct :laughing: )

Christ my talents are wasted driving, I’m gonna start an advice forum on here…, to the point, no sympathy and no bull [zb], or I might even join The Samaritans and make suicidal people feel better :smiley:

Christ don’t sit on the fence robroy. :smiley:
Good advice though.

I want to drive a new shape volvo tramping when you’ve a young family at home , whats wrong with you man ,
I missed the first 5 years of my daughter growing up ,even when she was born I was away and it was a week later before I got home ,
she is now 21 and I still regret to this day , missing her birthdays ,her first experiences etc and then Wait until she starts school then starts asking why can’t you make it to sports days and things and then she starts saying well other dads do so why can’t you, It doesn’t matter how many videos, photos your mrs takes it still ain’t going to be the same as being there .
Believe me You really need to get your head from up your arse and smell the coffee ,

  1. Why the hell do you want to tramp all week and miss your young daughter growing up, it`s time you will never get back, leave the tramping until see is a bit older,at least then you will miss the teenage years.

  2. If you want your own truck go to a smaller firm,not a large multi-national where you and the truck are just a number to be used and abused.If you ring up the planner at the green machine to say you need to be back on wednesday for a parents evening, do you really think he will give a crap, go with the smaller firm everytime. Few years ago I was working for a smallish family firm(75 trucks) my Mrs rang them to ask them to get a message to me,mobile was busted,they rang me on the cab phone and even though I was only 30 odd mins away from job to turn around and go straight home in the truck, could you imagine Stobbies or the like doing that, oh the emergency,the Mrs had to rush the dog to the vets.

There’s been some brilliant advice here, and you’re lucky to have had such replies, especially being that it has been from those who have been there and know from from their own experience exactly where you are heading.

Whilst the idea may appeal you of swanning about in a big motor on tramping, don’t kid yourself that you’ll be earning the big bucks, because tramping unless very specialised just doesn’t pay well, the pay is designed around you doing 2 weeks working hours for one weeks pay, then making the mistake that many do of thinking your subsistence pay is part of your wages…no it bloody isn’t…and unless you like living as a hermit spending every moment not driving huddled inside or polishing your tin shed, living off baked beans with sausages, you’ll spend most of your night out money getting away from the bloody lorry before you go as insane as most here.

Transport has changed completely especially in the last 25 years, where tramping could be a social job years ago, you’d invariably meet up with a few like minded drivers and stroll off for a pint and a bite to eat, now increasingly those drivers that are insular hostile and aggressive towards each other on the road are the same ones who will be parked up and pull the curtains round the second they stop, the good fun but hard work days of transport have gone, so as said above don’t get any romantic dreams about it, the reality will be anything but.

Meanwhile your young wife and family grow apart from you, they see you at weekends and you become increasingly a stranger, you end up living different lives…what does that matter if it suits you both now?, well it matters when you suddenly decide at age 50 that you don’t want this any more, so, ‘i’ll go on days love’…and you expect to just pick back up from 20 years ago, well unfortunately if you’re still together your wife and family may not exactly welcome this, at best you’ll be under her feet and worse it may well be the final straw for the relationship, then all that work for the future is flushed down the toilet and you could be yet another late middle aged bloke cleaned out living back in bedsit land or worse still forced to live in a lorry like the poor bloody foreigners trying to etch a living over here in lorries.

Believe me i’ve seen this, i’ve worked with blokes who if they got back to the yard in the week would sleep in the lorry…‘‘save that 10 mile drive home’’…yeah right.

To be fair with some couples it works, they’re as happy as two pigs in a pile of poop, but you have to remember generations and expectations from life have moved on, some young women especially are not content with the prospect of working class lives any more.

If you decide to do this then best of luck to you and i hope it works well for all of you, but as the majority of posters here have said, think about this hard.

edit…just seen your avatar, do you drive a flour tanker like that?, if so thats a bloody well paid number with them, lots of blokes here would give their eye teeth for that, don’t be in a rush jobs like that don’t grow on trees…and whatever happens to the economy flour will always be needed.

Left hand down!:

Trucker8oy:

Left hand down!:

Trucker8oy:

Left hand down!:

Trucker8oy:
we just had our first baby and my other half wanted me home every night. but now shes 1.5 years young so ive been allowed to take off again

So you’re leaving your wife to bring up your 1.5 yro daughter all on her own while you enjoy the peace and quiet and high life of living in your big rig all week touring the UK. Nope, that relationship definitely won’t end in tears…

What are you a personal relationship advisor :slight_smile: she knew about it when we got married 3yrs ago so… in SICKNESS and in health :smiley:

You didn’t have a kid 3 years ago. :bulb:

To save an argument ive asked and she said that i can go that she will be fine.

:open_mouth:

They all say that, right up until the point you come home early one Friday to find her naked sat on top of your best mate’s ■■■■.

Don’t beat about the bush mate will ya! :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Left hand down!:
I couldn’t give a [zb]! It’s true! I think some people are deluding themselves that their OH will be perfectly happy to rattle around the house on their own while they’re away working. If a woman says they’re perfectly happy with a given situation in truth it means the exact opposite. :open_mouth: I suspect the OP is only a nipper though. Bit harsh on the bairn not having her dad around as she grows up. You don’t get them years back. Think on! :exclamation:

I agree with this though, just think to the future when the OP comes home one Friday and mrs tells him his child took her fisrt steps last Tuesday morning! :frowning: ■■■■ that, there’s more to life than roughing it out in a tin box 5 days a week!
I know half a dozen guys that used to be out all week in B&B whilst operating rail, on track machines, they were all divorced within 3 to 7 years the lot of em.

Agree with everything Juddian says especially about today’s insular, aggressive anti social drivers sat in their cabs :unamused: At least in the old days the drudge of tramping came with a social life. Too many today treat the job as some kind of minimal rest endurance test, get a life ffs.
I and a few like me still try, and succeed, to salvage some kind of enjoyment out of the job on a night away from home, but if I had the choice again, knowing what I know now, it would be days working, with nights at home with the wife and kids.

get a job at tesco delivering the shopping , the shop less than a mile from me was recruiting a few weeks ago ,it was full time at £10 an hour driving a sprinter van, believe me where I live that ain’t to bad of money , there is a transport company down the road from me paying £8 an hour for class 1 then they expect you to make your money up with your night out allowance ,
if like you said in your posting that you ain’t going to be that much better off then I would stick at what you’ve got ,
all the money in the world won’t buy back the years you’ll miss watching your daughter growing up .

Been reading the old timers thread…just recently.most of them looked like they enjoyed their working lives,and would do it all again…if they could.
Horses for courses,i suppose.