To begin parliament in its opening in September will stop all social payments to EU people in this country…they also will lose their right to free NHS care…The rest can take from 2 to 5 years to implement our exit from the EU… can’t see foreign vehicles operating,ie using Uk as a base after 18 months.and after September any new arrivals from the EU will not be given a NI number those that arrived before 2012 might be allowed to have residency… not guaranteed…be like point system in Australia
Rog270:
To begin parliament in its opening in September will stop all social payments to EU people in this country…they also will lose their right to free NHS care…The rest can take from 2 to 5 years to implement our exit from the EU… can’t see foreign vehicles operating,ie using Uk as a base after 18 months.and after September any new arrivals from the EU will not be given a NI number those that arrived before 2012 might be allowed to have residency… not guaranteed…be like point system in Australia
Jolly good. Im glad you know whats happening in September. Maybe we can forward this thread to 10 Downing St so they can cutnpaste it into the Queen`s Speech?
Never mind all this political stuff, concentrate on what is important like proper tons not these lightweight tonny things, and can we have pounds, shillings and pence back so we know how much we are loosing per mile - oh yeah and miles, furlongs, yards, feet and inches so we know how long it will take to get somewhere. And can we have gallons, pints and fluid ounces back. Thinking about it there is no wonder the youngsters today are so thick, everything has been dumbed down for them they don’t have to think anymore. Bet they don’t even know what a slide rule is never mind sines, cosines and log tables. The EU has so much to answer for. How can you even begin to work things out when everything is in multiples of ten. My grandad would be turning in his grave.
Never mind all this political stuff, concentrate on what is important like proper tons not these lightweight tonny things, and can we have pounds, shillings and pence back so we know how much we are loosing per mile - oh yeah and miles, furlongs, yards, feet and inches so we know how long it will take to get somewhere. And can we have gallons, pints and fluid ounces back. Thinking about it there is no wonder the youngsters today are so thick, everything has been dumbed down for them they don’t have to think anymore. Bet they don’t even know what a slide rule is never mind sines, cosines and log tables. The EU has so much to answer for. How can you even begin to work things out when everything is in multiples of ten. My grandad would be turning in his grave.
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Franglais:
Question for Hanson and Conor: why do you think unaccompanied Ro_Ro could increase?
You set the rules so it is no longer cheaper to send a foreign wagon piloted by an Eastern European being paid 1/7th the wage here in the UK running on French diesel and paying no fees/taxes to run in this country. You remove the ability for said wagon once its here if it still comes to do internal UK-UK deliveries that they use to subsidise the cost of the inbound run from the EU on that cheap diesel and paying peanut wages to the drivers.
Once it starts costing more per delivery than doing Ro-Ro and using a UK haulier then they’ll change back.
bald:
Your problem is that you can not shop within the rules, if you join a club you agree to all of their rules
Rubbish. There are around 20 countries that have free trade agreements with the EU don’t have to abide by all of their rules.
Conor. Thanks for the reply.
When you say “set the rules” I assume you mean set taxes, tariffs, charges, tolls ,whatever you want to call them, to increase costs for a foreign truck coming here? Wouldnt they then increase charges on our trucks working there? With the inevitable rise in transport costs wouldnt we be paying more for ALL imports and increase prices of ALL of our exports? So wed both pay more AND earn less? Or just outright ban them from coming here? With a reciprocal ban the UK trucks banned from EU would be able to take up the extra domestic work. Maybe wed better buy shares in Tugmaster companies? Or start a trailer repair business, we know ow those tuggies drive!
Conor:
Rubbish. There are around 20 countries that have free trade agreements with the EU don’t have to abide by all of their rules.
Carryfast was refering to EFTA and EFTA uses EEA and works within certain rules with the EU.
Leave has no clear script what happens next, will they go for EFTA, Free Trade Agreements, Commonwealth,… so there will be arguments between the different fractions of Leave, and that will take time.
Time brits do not have, thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/ … -8lbfxxnq7.
When you think you can “set the rules”, that can go both ways and for the EU, Britain alone is a small marked share, but the EU is a big marked share for Britain, and after the Brexit I do not think they will be lenient in any negotation.
Britain can kick the EU in the teeth, but the EU can realy hurt the British economy and you can guess who will pay the bill…
The little bloke who is working for his family… 
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
red7jase:
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
Not for two years at least… Article 50 needs to be invoked
Unless the UK economy totally collapses until a driver from Scunthorpe makes less than one from Timisoara, it’s not going to happen.
General IZD:
My only real prediction is that driving and working hours will be increased.
I don’t think they can increase mate.
15 hours you can’t do no more or I would be parking the truck up
What will change in our industry? Hopefully we as drivers have had a wake up call and will start working a bit smarter.
Bridges? Let’s stop hitting them. ■■■■ bottles everywhere? Let’s stop doing it. Dragging the job out too much? Calm it down a bit. Driving like Lewis Hamilton in a DRS zone? Knock the cruise back a couple of clicks. In time to come we will not be able to blame foreign drivers so much.
If we work smarter and drive better, public perception will improve and profits will improve. Increased MPG and reduced repair costs.
Themoocher:
General IZD:
My only real prediction is that driving and working hours will be increased.I don’t think they can increase mate.
15 hours you can’t do no more or I would be parking the truck up
They will most likely turn away from current rules and closer towards US/Canada hours, just with tacho.
Don’t think they will start removing tachos, but hours will go up towards over the pond numbers…
kyk:
Themoocher:
General IZD:
My only real prediction is that driving and working hours will be increased.I don’t think they can increase mate.
15 hours you can’t do no more or I would be parking the truck upThey will most likely turn away from current rules and closer towards US/Canada hours, just with tacho.
Don’t think they will start removing tachos, but hours will go up towards over the pond numbers…
What’s over the pond hours consist of on a simple format?
on simple format = more driving time, more working time, less breaks 
I’m not from over there - wait for answer from one of them or Google…
red7jase:
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
I pulled on to Beaconsfield services Thursday night for a 45 and the amount of foreign trucks on there was staggering. And they really don’t care where they park either.
I showed my mom the footage on my dash cam and she was shocked at just how many wagons on the road are actually foreign. And this is WITH cabotage.
Imagine it without 
Re: Does this mean we can dust the CPC?
Postby Olog Hai » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:47 pm
Let’s ignore all the usual barrack room lawyers, who infest the haulage industry, think that the view through a truck windscreen gives some kind of unique knowledge of what will happen in years to come and think nothing of presenting their opinion as cast-iron fact, and listen to a legal guy who charges £300 per hour to represent miscreant hauliers in front of Traffic Commissioners. He has an opinion on what will happen with DCPC along with a great deal else:
Driver CPC obligations are also unlikely to change, this is because, although the regulations were created by the EU, the UK is a signatory of the, snappily titled, European Agreement Concerning the Work of Crews of Vehicles Engaged in International Road Transport (AETR) which contains driver CPC obligations. The UK is expected to remain a signatory of AETR as a condition of ongoing trade with the EU. This will be in line with a number of other non EU counties.
backhousejones.co.uk/effects … -industry/
We miss you, Conor.
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Ive lifted that from the "dust off cpc" thread. Seems to me that if a non EU UK wants to trade with the EU we will have to still conform with their standards. This IS how Swiss and Norway sit alongside the EU. So seems unlikely to be any change in drivers hours etc. An alternative is to cease trading with the EU, so we wont have to obey their rules at all. We can then trade with those 2 billion consumers in the emerging world that Paolo Barnard is talking about. After all its only BBC propaganda that all those people coming here in rubber dinghies are after hand-outs: the truth is theyre all after the shopping in Bond St.
eagerbeaver:
What will change in our industry? Hopefully we as drivers have had a wake up call and will start working a bit smarter.Bridges? Let’s stop hitting them. ■■■■ bottles everywhere? Let’s stop doing it. Dragging the job out too much? Calm it down a bit. Driving like Lewis Hamilton in a DRS zone? Knock the cruise back a couple of clicks. In time to come we will not be able to blame foreign drivers so much.
If we work smarter and drive better, public perception will improve and profits will improve. Increased MPG and reduced repair costs.
Calm down there lorrys drivers are bottom of any list that will be made.Look at kent there not building anything for op stack because of price and they want it to be private so they dont have the hassel of it says alot what they think of a lorry driver.
I think checks will be more stringent this will help stop women getting smuggled in for the ■■■ trade as with children and slaves this alone will be a very good thing, I had never heard of this sort of thing going on in uk and I am ashamed of my country for not doing more to stop it