red7jase:
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
Not for two years at least… Article 50 needs to be invoked
As I understand it Article 50 means negotiations will be completed within 2 years of starting talks? Bit like an eBay auction with a ticking clock. What isn`t agreed by end date is just that: not agreed. So as time rolls on, pressure to agree increases. Good job opportunities for Professors of “Game Theory” here.
red7jase:
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
Not for two years at least… Article 50 needs to be invoked
As I understand it Article 50 means negotiations will be completed within 2 years of starting talks? Bit like an eBay auction with a ticking clock. What isn`t agreed by end date is just that: not agreed. So as time rolls on, pressure to agree increases. Good job opportunities for Professors of “Game Theory” here.
Franglais:
“Could go on for years?” Andy.
Maybe Im wrong, but no. 2 years and thats it. What isnt agreed then, ISNT agreed. Game over.
(Hope I`m wrong)
from web
After Article 50 is used then Britain must leave the EU within two years, unless all member states agree to extend the two-year deadline
So in theory could be anything from 2 years to whenever
Franglais:
“Could go on for years?” Andy.
Maybe Im wrong, but no. 2 years and thats it. What isnt agreed then, ISNT agreed. Game over.
(Hope I`m wrong)
from web
After Article 50 is used then Britain must leave the EU within two years, unless all member states agree to extend the two-year deadline
So in theory could be anything from 2 years to whenever
Ahh ! I stand corrected. So it is possible. But ALL the EU states agreeing to give us more time?
red7jase:
Not read the whole thread but can someone tell me, will we see a reduction in foreign trucks on our roads and parking areas over the coming months.
I’m guessing this is not top or even near the top of the exit agenda but it something I keep getting asked by my none driving friends.
Not for two years at least… Article 50 needs to be invoked
As I understand it Article 50 means negotiations will be completed within 2 years of starting talks? Bit like an eBay auction with a ticking clock. What isn`t agreed by end date is just that: not agreed. So as time rolls on, pressure to agree increases. Good job opportunities for Professors of “Game Theory” here.
As long as art 50 is not invoked, the 2 year deadline does not start.
It is britain that has to invoke art 50, Cameron does not want to be the one invoking it and Boris said he is not in a hurry. theguardian.com/politics/201 … icle-50-eu
But if the 2 year negotiating does not start, everything is at a standstill, which means nobody knows what is going to happen in the long term and that is always bad for business.
Will we end up like the Vietnam peace talks? First, talks about starting talks. Then, talks about what shape table to sit at. Then after 23 months someone says “Oh, only 30 days left”. Do the talks start from the first talks or the real talks? And anyone expecting friendly talks after “hanging the job out” as long as possible must be in cloud cuckoo land!
What will change is ENGLAND getting back to how it once ruled itself. Let the Scott’s have there independence . Even though they won’t really be independent. Cos they will have to answer to the EU. Haha. And also let the Irish be part of the EU so when they start throwing petrol bombs it will be. the responsibility of the EU to sort them out. Perfect …
krystalgazer:
What will change is ENGLAND getting back to how it once ruled itself. Let the Scott’s have there independence . Even though they won’t really be independent. Cos they will have to answer to the EU. Haha. And also let the Irish be part of the EU so when they start throwing petrol bombs it will be. the responsibility of the EU to sort them out. Perfect …
If we just for a moment imagine that your family has managed for about 2200 years to breed with only celtic stock, you and ‘your’ country have been ruled by Romans, Vikings, French, and the Dutch (of sorts). Your patron saint is a Syrian. Your three lions are French. Your Royal family are Germans . Your favourite dish is curry. You live in Spain and expect English food, papers, pubs, shops, and complain that those ‘bloody dagos’ (sic) don’t speak English. …
I could go on.
Beau Nydel:
On a more serious note will we see a return of Gardner engines, twinsplitter gearboxes, marathon bars, opal fruits, curly bananas, user friendly log books, roping and sheeting, cross ply tyres, split rim wheels, and all the other things this glorious industry was robbed of by them lot over the water?
Obviously tongue in cheek-not
You forgot white dog turds
That’s why my mates voted out. Garage and Horris promised them to regain our British white dog turds if we leave. Non of this modern liberal brown stuff. They promised it on the side of a bus! It must have been true. The lying sods.
Instead of having people like Germanary Hunt arguing for “another referendum with me as leader” … We need to see our leadership argue for ways in which leaving the EU can be done quickly as a clean break. The sooner we stop paying over the money that isn’t linked to actual “cargo in transit” the better.
There’s bugger all for the NHS or anything else - until we free up that money. It doesn’t matter how much exactly it ever was - just that we take back control. THAT is what I voted for, regardless of the otherwise accuracy or not of any other “promises made”…
Taking back control - cannot and must not take anything like as long as “Two Years” ffs.
Winseer:
Taking back control - cannot and must not take anything like as long as “Two Years” ffs.
It’s surprising just how vacuous this concept has turned out to be. I ask people, take back control of what? And they rarely have any answer, or an answer that is just plain wrong.
It’s like the people now telling British Asians to go back to Pakistan - telling people who were born here, to ‘go back’ to a place which has never been a part of the EU!
Let’s just say there’s more chance that the vote will be reversed within a matter months if not weeks by the Europhile Cons and zb wit Corbynite Bolsheviks together with the LibDims and SNP than us leaving the EU. Which explains why Camoron is holding onto office and thereby article 50 rather than invoking it.
In which case the main change will be the lifting of cabotage restrictions taking place much faster than before and removal of road charging for foreign trucks.Together with Turkey’s membership then being a formality.
Carryfast:
Let’s just say there’s more chance that the vote will be reversed within a matter months if not weeks by the Europhile Cons and zb wit Corbynite Bolsheviks together with the LibDims and SNP than us leaving the EU. Which explains why Camoron is holding onto office and thereby article 50 rather than invoking it.
Yes I too think we will not get what we were promised, it will be all twisted round and they will somehow manage to keep us within the EU. I suspect one route will be for a general election to be called with one side (or even both sides) promising to reverse the decision if they gain office.
Carryfast:
Let’s just say there’s more chance that the vote will be reversed within a matter months if not weeks by the Europhile Cons and zb wit Corbynite Bolsheviks together with the LibDims and SNP than us leaving the EU. Which explains why Camoron is holding onto office and thereby article 50 rather than invoking it.
Yes I too think we will not get what we were promised, it will be all twisted round and they will somehow manage to keep us within the EU. I suspect one route will be for a general election to be called with one side (or even both sides) promising to reverse the decision if they gain office.
Juddian has raised a rumour elsewhere concerning what seems like a possible stitch up in which we replace EU membership with EEA instead.Which puts us in a worse situation than Switzerland.I’d guess that the rules of that would leave the immigration door open ‘and’ probably the issue of cabotage.While giving the government the get out it needs to say it complied with the letter of the referendum vote.But not the spirit of it or what the Leave vote voted for.
Having said that we wouldn’t have lost anything regards the vote having kept us in.While leaving the door open to a government promising to then withdraw from the EEA ( UKIP or even a Labour Party which is prepared to actually listen to its voters ).
The Big Corporate Companies will be decimated by ANY amendments to the current free movement of EU citizens coming into the UNITED KINGDOM.
The ‘decent people’ of the United Kingdom have voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU and STOP free movement and reduce immigration.
I predict mass reduction in immigration over the coming 2/3 years. The U.K have 1.6million unemployed and if the Government do not force these into work I fear these big Corporations may be forced to relocate elsewhere.
As for Drivers, I predict it’s the beginning of the end for Agencies, Companies will look to ‘cut out the middle man’ due to the surge in rates of pay caused by the shortage of EU drivers.
Carryfast:
Let’s just say there’s more chance that the vote will be reversed within a matter months if not weeks by the Europhile Cons and zb wit Corbynite Bolsheviks together with the LibDims and SNP than us leaving the EU. Which explains why Camoron is holding onto office and thereby article 50 rather than invoking it.
In which case the main change will be the lifting of cabotage restrictions taking place much faster than before and removal of road charging for foreign trucks.Together with Turkey’s membership then being a formality.
Of course he’s stalling. Officially it’s to get a new leader in place by coronation… “For the good of the party” they’ll argue - but the blues are faced with a big choice right now:
Fill the cabinet with remainers - whom the public can’t trust - or fill the cabinet with brexiteers with Boris at their head - whom the PCP don’t seem to trust!
Some bright spark needs to sit down and work out “what interim brexit-filled cabinet can we have that’ll not render us unelectable against an unelectable opposition”.
Trying to hang out the Tory leadership contest to “beyond the Labour one” - falls flat should Corbyn manage to hang on OR win the “re-contest” like John Major once did.
Cameron has already poisoned the chalice. Maybe he’s done this to try and keep Osbourne in position - but the only way Osbourne & May can stay even where they are right now - is for them both to endorse Boris for a coronation to PM asap!
Honestscott76:
The Big Corporate Companies will be decimated by ANY amendments to the current free movement of EU citizens coming into the UNITED KINGDOM.
The ‘decent people’ of the United Kingdom have voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU and STOP free movement and reduce immigration.
I predict mass reduction in immigration over the coming 2/3 years. The U.K have 1.6million unemployed and if the Government do not force these into work I fear these big Corporations may be forced to relocate elsewhere.
As for Drivers, I predict it’s the beginning of the end for Agencies, Companies will look to ‘cut out the middle man’ due to the surge in rates of pay caused by the shortage of EU drivers.
Honestly !
Au Contraire … Brexit will assist companies no end in that once the firms try and get drivers to work 23 hours a day outside of the WTD which might soon get ditched - firms will be dismayed to find that the “other” tacho regulations will all be kept. Got a long shift to cover then? - It’ll go to Agency before Full Timers more than ever. UNLESS of course there’s this apocalypse that we get told of - and that doesn’t happen until and unless our trade routes actually get blockaded (act of war to do so) - so I suggest that it’s not going to happen, work backwards - and say that we’re going to get more work and less restrictions - an agency’s dream scenario…
Which explains why Camoron is holding onto office and thereby article 50 rather than invoking it. 
