Carryfast:
as I said the Wright Brothers would have been washed out at the application stage.
Chances are they wouldn’t have been washed out because of all the contacts they’d have had. It’s possible to make it with ZERO qualifications but have a load of money or know people. Remember flying airliners doesn’t require a ridiculous amount of skill!
Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip!
You`ve obviously never watched > Magnum PI . 
TC is the man (aka Roger Moseley. 
youtube.com/watch?v=n_1uCXcafIw
When I 1st started driving one of the regulars was a black guy called “chalkie White”.
AFAIK chalkie was his actual given name and not just a nick name
There is a hub in the midlands has several black CE drivers as well as an asian ( the black hate him btw & yep they all said they were black all born in this country classed themselves as British )
I see a female lorry driver everyday have see a few on my travels as well
Yes they are mostly white male lorry drivers but have seen a lot of other types
My cousin is married to a black woman not long after they had started going out she wanted to come up here to the North
east & visit Bemish museum to go down the coal mine & have her pic taken her now father in law said what did she want that for as you wouldn’t be able to see her unless se smiled true story
Carryfast:
Winseer:
Pimpdaddy:
Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip!youtu.be/C1CwHgSMcI0
If you want to see black pilots go to Africa or the US where they’re less likely to be discriminated against!I always thought the main bar to becoming a pilot was the “shutout” for self-qualified people everywhere.
It would cost a fortune to have enough private flying lessons so that one gets the appropriate thousands of hours flying time in your log - so that an airline would consider letting that pilot fly one of theres…Pilots being fed into commercial aviation would traditionally come from “ex RAF” background for example. This guy in the vid doesn’t mention anything about HOW he seemingly broke so easily into flying, although being stateside at the time WAS mentioned. Thanks for the vid though - interesting.
Ironically the selection requirements are based more on school leaver academic qualifications than potential piloting skills or even experience whatsoever.On that note a school leaver with the right GCSE and A level grades,regardless of ethnicity,would have more chance of getting in.Than if the Wright Brothers applied with the qualifications they had when they invented powered flight.
It’s not really true. To go to a an aviation college if you funded yourself i’m not aware of any academic qualifications. It’s recommended you have studied GCSE maths and science. Some colleges specify their own requirements but ultimately it’s about money for them. You’d still have to pass everything, money or academics can’t help there and the training is very challenging and demanding.
For qualified aircrew selection within airlines academic background is not really looked at beyond have you actually got one. It’s more relevant experience and skill sets. Varies with airlines but usual format is a heavy going personal interview, maybe a technical interview, a sim check plus a battery of written tests and computer assessments.
For an initial cadet applicants with airlines I believe academia is looked at more closely but they’re still tested on aviation specific skills and that’s the focus. Academia is not an automatic precursor to having the right skill set.
trux:
Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip!You`ve obviously never watched > Magnum PI .
youtube.com/watch?v=n_1uCXcafIw
Clearly, I don’t watch much TV.
If I don’t see it walking down the street, and I don’t get to see it on TV therefore…
Wot a sheltered life I’ve led eh?
Freight Dog:
It’s not really true. To go to a an aviation college if you funded yourself i’m not aware of any academic qualifications. It’s recommended you have studied GCSE maths and science. Some colleges specify their own requirements but ultimately it’s about money for them. You’d still have to pass everything, money or academics can’t help there and the training is very challenging and demanding.For qualified aircrew selection within airlines academic background is not really looked at beyond have you actually got one. It’s more relevant experience and skill sets. Varies with airlines but usual format is a heavy going personal interview, maybe a technical interview, a sim check plus a battery of written tests and computer assessments.
For an initial cadet applicants with airlines I believe academia is looked at more closely but they’re still tested on aviation specific skills and that’s the focus. Academia is not an automatic precursor to having the right skill set.
caeoaa.com/ba/how-to-apply/#.VjUt5ytQrIU
As I said the academic conditions there at least would have stopped the Wright Brothers’ application in its tracks.
In the early nineties I drove for Eagle Freight of Needham Market, they were a Pakistani owned outfit and ran mostly to Russia as well as UK and were seriously considering running overland to Pakistan, wouldn’t fancy tryin that now but would have done then.
Carryfast:
Freight Dog:
It’s not really true. To go to a an aviation college if you funded yourself i’m not aware of any academic qualifications. It’s recommended you have studied GCSE maths and science. Some colleges specify their own requirements but ultimately it’s about money for them. You’d still have to pass everything, money or academics can’t help there and the training is very challenging and demanding.For qualified aircrew selection within airlines academic background is not really looked at beyond have you actually got one. It’s more relevant experience and skill sets. Varies with airlines but usual format is a heavy going personal interview, maybe a technical interview, a sim check plus a battery of written tests and computer assessments.
For an initial cadet applicants with airlines I believe academia is looked at more closely but they’re still tested on aviation specific skills and that’s the focus. Academia is not an automatic precursor to having the right skill set.
caeoaa.com/ba/how-to-apply/#.VjUt5ytQrIU
As I said the academic conditions there at least would have stopped the Wright Brothers’ application in its tracks.
Mm seems so!
To be fair, despite being pioneering designers of early wooden aircraft doesn’t mean they’d be any better as aircrew.
raymundo:
In the early nineties I drove for Eagle Freight of Needham Market, they were a Pakistani owned outfit and ran mostly to Russia as well as UK and were seriously considering running overland to Pakistan, wouldn’t fancy tryin that now but would have done then.
Do you know Sean, or Stas? Where are they now?
Carryfast:
Than if the Wright Brothers applied with the qualifications they had when they invented powered flight.
common discriminatory statement against the Zummerzet race .
i am totally offended and am firing a strongly worded email to Trevor Phillips .
the Wright Brothers did not “invent powered flight”
chardmuseum.co.uk/Powered_Flight/
those johnycumlatelys partook in the first powered flight OUTDOORS !!
not the first powered flight .
please dont repeat this offensive slander again !!
Freight Dog:
Carryfast:
Freight Dog:
It’s not really true. To go to a an aviation college if you funded yourself i’m not aware of any academic qualifications. It’s recommended you have studied GCSE maths and science. Some colleges specify their own requirements but ultimately it’s about money for them. You’d still have to pass everything, money or academics can’t help there and the training is very challenging and demanding.For qualified aircrew selection within airlines academic background is not really looked at beyond have you actually got one. It’s more relevant experience and skill sets. Varies with airlines but usual format is a heavy going personal interview, maybe a technical interview, a sim check plus a battery of written tests and computer assessments.
For an initial cadet applicants with airlines I believe academia is looked at more closely but they’re still tested on aviation specific skills and that’s the focus. Academia is not an automatic precursor to having the right skill set.
caeoaa.com/ba/how-to-apply/#.VjUt5ytQrIU
As I said the academic conditions there at least would have stopped the Wright Brothers’ application in its tracks.
Mm seems so!
To be fair, despite being pioneering designers of early wooden aircraft doesn’t mean they’d be any better as aircrew.
Who knows.But it would have been great to see their reaction and the course of history if someone had said you can’t fly that thing because you didn’t get enough school qualifications. 
robroy:
gazsa401:
I live in Nottingham and most of the white kids talk and sound like black kids !!!Yeh.You hear that crap all the time on the telly. Wtf is that all about exactly, why imitate a foreign accent.
As for supposedly sounding ‘cool or street’ I just think it sounds ridiculous and bloody annoying.
Do they talk like that when they visit their gran, or just when they are with their mates.
Of course they talk like that at grannies. Mind you, she talks like that, she’s only 23
Harry Monk:
raymundo:
In the early nineties I drove for Eagle Freight of Needham Market, they were a Pakistani owned outfit and ran mostly to Russia as well as UK and were seriously considering running overland to Pakistan, wouldn’t fancy tryin that now but would have done then.Do you know Sean, or Stas? Where are they now?
Cor blimey Harry, I find it difficult enough to remember people I met last week now let alone nearly 25 years ago 
and most of my time there I picked unaccompanied trailers up in Europort and ran East sometimes being away for a month or more (bit like the later day EE driver but in reverse), was in a beat up old Volvo that consisted of all cannibalised parts from various motors and rebuilt badly, even the gearbox was arse about face but no limiter so went like the wind. I used to hate it when I had to take the Russian lads wages to them !!
I saw a guy in a turban once at my old job, couldn’t be arsed to stick around to watch as I wanted to go home, but it was either R.A.J or RAJ, similar sort of colours to Sparks. Guy didn’t know his arse from his elbow. Don’t think he could have got the unit I the same postcode as his trailer if his passport depended on it. Might not have helped that he had a load of sprinter drivers trying to tell him which way they thought he should bend it. I’d got my class 1, but hadn’t driven since my test, so I effe’d of sharply before they asked me to have a go.
teatime:
[quote=“CHAINSAW”Go to Brum airport and see the lavish prayer and wash facilities while the stinking toilets the indigenous are made to use…
So the penny has not yet dropped ,time to change deity then.
Anyway up here truck drivers are humans , no one really cares about skin tone , religion,or nationality as long as the feet can reach the pedals.
Well in the Todays rag of a newspaper there was an article of how 2 muslim drivers in US won £150k for getting the sack for refusing to haul booze… if I held to my beliefs I would be refusing to deliver most of the muck they load into my trailers
I run a DCPC business and get a lot of phone calls enquiring about DCPC.
Whenever the person on the other end has a certain accent I automatically assume they are calling about PSV/PCV CPC. so I guess I am being racist.
But 90% of the time I am right. Very few Mohammad’s or Khans etc seem to drive HGV but plenty seem to drive PCV in the same way many seem to drive Taxis. Maybe they just like carrying passengers?
I think someone already mentioned motorbikes? I do tens of thousands of miles a year by bike including many of them across Europe and rarely see ‘certain groups’ of people riding motorbikes.
When i worked at Salvesens at Heathrow you were a minority if a white male.
cypry0:
When i worked at Salvesens at Heathrow you were a minority if a white male.
Heathrow area is indeed very much Muslims & Sikhs. There’s a Union Rep I know on the Langley estate who wields the firm hand necessary to keep these two major factions from tearing each other apart in the workplace.
They call him “Turbanator” locally - out of respect rather than some kind of joke.
When one turns up at a Heathrow depot - don’t be surprised to be “Locked out” until buzzed in. Security is really tight. I can’t help but chuckle at the irony though when someone who looks like a jihadist with a badge has to buzz me in, myself being considered a bit of a “dodgy-looking geezer” as I am in this area, a white Brit who doesn’t speak the Patois…
Winseer:
cypry0:
When i worked at Salvesens at Heathrow you were a minority if a white male.Heathrow area is indeed very much Muslims & Sikhs. There’s a Union Rep I know on the Langley estate who wields the firm hand necessary to keep these two major factions from tearing each other apart in the workplace.
They call him “Turbanator” locally - out of respect rather than some kind of joke.:
Don’t forget to add the Hindus to the equation.
Realistically most of what was Middx and it’s neighbouring west side areas show the Indian side of ‘multiculturalism’ ( segregation ) in action.Then added to that are the African areas of South and parts of West London.Now also moving out into Croydon 
.Which then leaves the question of what happens if/when the mainly indigenous buffer areas in what was Surrey but now South West London and/or remaining parts of North Surrey,that divides the large African South London population from the large Indian ones,in what was Middx now West London and it’s western environs like Slough,decide that it’s time for some more ‘white flight’.
As for the three way friction between Sikhs,Hindus and Muslims.Trust me that could get even more ‘interesting’ if/when much of it was sometimes turned against the indigenous community not just each other.As I found to my shock when being naive born and bred in the indigenous Surrey area I was suddenly dropped into that environment,in the Hounslow area,as a college student,as part of my job at the time located in Feltham. The fact is,as nature rightly realised,such different alien cultures were never meant to be mixed in one country let alone certain parts of a country.
