UK truck drivers are white men

Was a black guy that had a few container trucks running out of Tilbury docks , dropped off some groupage at our place a couple of times a week

“The white man has stolen my lenses off one of my trailers”

“How do you one he was white?”

“Because I am the only black man at the docks”

Truckulent:

Harry Monk:
They’re just not interested in driving trucks.

It’s the same when I’m out and about on my narrowboat, I’ve probably seen 2000+ other boaters, both owners and holiday hirers. I’ve seen one black man, and one family of Asians on other boats in that time, everybody else has been white. Not necessarily English, you see lots of Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans on holiday boats and for some reason every other hire boat on the Llangollen canal seems to have a family of Norwegians on it.

It comes under discussion on a canal forum I visit and the general conclusion is that there is no hostility or discrimination involved, just that the ethnic minorities don’t have the any interest in British post-industrial heritage and so choose to do something else instead.

The Norfolk Broads are the same. Been going for years and I can recall one Asian family and as far as I recall, no black folk whatsoever… Sure they do go, but there is certainly very little interest.

It’s the same with camping/caravanning, in all the years I’ve had tents and caravans I’ve never seen a black or Asian family on a campsite, here or abroad

I concur - Nottingham white yoots do speak with a ridikilous Jafakin accent (or to put it politically correctly - London multicultural English).

I went to a Tudor re-enactment fayre this summer and told my friend that he was more likely to see a unicorn there than a black person. Despite the sea of people, by the end of the day I had proven to be right.

It’s interesting no one in this thread has declared themselves female or non-white. I suspect the users of this site are well in excess of 99% white and probably closer to 100%. I myself am a 44 year old white man. Please feel free to declare ■■■/race (or should I say gender/ethnicity to use the correct euphemisms) for a quick straw poll.

Ive come accross a few black truckers in my time, but only one asian(who as it turned out couldnt even opperate his tacho. Then again he was agency as well…)

Ive seen quite a few women truckers as well. Like most of the male truckers though they are all middle aged+.

You see a lot of black and asian bus drivers however. In the WestMidlands Id say its at least 50/50 white and non white.
Its also proving to be more popular with women. A chief reason being it can offer short flexable hours that can fit around the demands of family life. The crap wage doesnt matter either as it gets bumped up by working tax credit.

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robroy:

gazsa401:
I live in Nottingham and most of the white kids talk and sound like black kids !!!

Yeh.You hear that crap all the time on the telly. Wtf is that all about exactly, why imitate a foreign accent.
As for supposedly sounding ‘cool or street’ I just think it sounds ridiculous and bloody annoying.
Do they talk like that when they visit their gran, or just when they are with their mates. :smiley:

The really sad thing is that where it does happen it’s a combination of not one thing or the other which wrecks both the different cultures.As opposed to the days when we talked proper Saf East or northern language in our place and vey talked proper Jamaican etc in theirs.IE Socialism in action. :unamused: :frowning:

youtube.com/watch?v=xVkbtNk6DTs

wanderingstar:
I concur - Nottingham white yoots do speak with a ridikilous Jafakin accent (or to put it politically correctly - London multicultural English).

Which again shows the irony and contradiction in the idea of calling the Socialist ideology of integration ‘multi culturalism’.When the two things are by definition mutually exclusive.IE segregation,at least in terms of residential areas,is the definition of ‘multi cultural’. :bulb:

wanderingstar:
I concur - Nottingham white yoots do speak with a ridikilous Jafakin accent (or to put it politically correctly - London multicultural English).

I went to a Tudor re-enactment fayre this summer and told my friend that he was more likely to see a unicorn there than a black person. Despite the sea of people, by the end of the day I had proven to be right.

It’s interesting no one in this thread has declared themselves female or non-white. I suspect the users of this site are well in excess of 99% white and probably closer to 100%. I myself am a 44 year old white man. Please feel free to declare ■■■/race (or should I say gender/ethnicity to use the correct euphemisms) for a quick straw poll.

How come everyone is so good at History that they know it’s inappropriate to come dressed as an 18th Century footman in Tudor times then?? :unamused: :smiley:

del trotter:

Contraflow:

wanderingstar:
I live in the East Midlands where you rarely see a white woman with a white child…

There’s more to the East Midlands than Leicester you know.

I live in the East Midlands and I haven’t seen a black man since 1992.

Is that 'cause they haven’t let you out of the home since then? :wink:

Seriously, in the Leicester area - it’s Asians to, indeed, what seems a total shutout of Black Africans. There’s a handful of middle-easterners (none from Syria or Iraq) - but that’s it.

Don’t forget mind, that that when one says “Asian” that it includes Sikhs, Chinese, and Indians. Let’s not assume a “Stereotype” here and consider that they are all Pakistani and all working as Taxi drivers by any means.

If you go to somewhere like Luton Airport (or Brum… Or Kegworth) then there are also Asian pilots too. I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

youtu.be/C1CwHgSMcI0
If you want to see black pilots go to Africa or the US where they’re less likely to be discriminated against!

Winseer:

del trotter:

Contraflow:

wanderingstar:
I live in the East Midlands where you rarely see a white woman with a white child…

There’s more to the East Midlands than Leicester you know.

I live in the East Midlands and I haven’t seen a black man since 1992.

Is that 'cause they haven’t let you out of the home since then? :wink:

Seriously, in the Leicester area - it’s Asians to, indeed, what seems a total shutout of Black Africans. There’s a handful of middle-easterners (none from Syria or Iraq) - but that’s it.

Don’t forget mind, that that when one says “Asian” that it includes Sikhs, Chinese, and Indians. Let’s not assume a “Stereotype” here and consider that they are all Pakistani and all working as Taxi drivers by any means.

If you go to somewhere like Luton Airport (or Brum… Or Kegworth) then there are also Asian pilots too. I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

Name of the film escapes me at the minute but Denzil Washinton was excellent as an alcoholic coke addicted pilot in it

Pimpdaddy:

Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

youtu.be/C1CwHgSMcI0
If you want to see black pilots go to Africa or the US where they’re less likely to be discriminated against!

Surely you don’t mean that Mandela and his successors are racist.

youtube.com/watch?v=A40awzD6BX8

Or for that matter the Harlem Globetrotters success was based on ‘discrimination’ against non ethnic African basketball players. :unamused:

youtube.com/watch?v=d9wO_rJrQLI

Winseer:
If you go to somewhere like Luton Airport (or Brum… Or Kegworth) then there are also Asian pilots too. I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

Tobias Wilcox
youtube.com/watch?v=GaElH0EHjIs

I don’t want to be a truck driver all my life.
I’ve seen too much of Speyside Forest in the night.
Fly away on Coconut Airways…

mazzer:
Name of the film escapes me at the minute but Denzil Washinton was excellent as an alcoholic coke addicted pilot in it

Its called Flight (2012).

Pimpdaddy:

Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

youtu.be/C1CwHgSMcI0
If you want to see black pilots go to Africa or the US where they’re less likely to be discriminated against!

I always thought the main bar to becoming a pilot was the “shutout” for self-qualified people everywhere.
It would cost a fortune to have enough private flying lessons so that one gets the appropriate thousands of hours flying time in your log - so that an airline would consider letting that pilot fly one of theres…

Pilots being fed into commercial aviation would traditionally come from “ex RAF” background for example. This guy in the vid doesn’t mention anything about HOW he seemingly broke so easily into flying, although being stateside at the time WAS mentioned. Thanks for the vid though - interesting. :slight_smile:

Winseer:
I always thought the main bar to becoming a pilot was the “shutout” for self-qualified people everywhere.

No, nowadays it’s mostly about who you know or how much money you or your parents have.

Winseer:
It would cost a fortune to have enough private flying lessons so that one gets the appropriate thousands of hours flying time in your log - so that an airline would consider letting that pilot fly one of theres…

Its a fortune to you maybe but trust me, there are plenty of people who can afford it, small change in their back pocket. Basically flying is a hobby for the wealthy:)

Winseer:
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Pilots being fed into commercial aviation would traditionally come from “ex RAF” background for example. This guy in the vid doesn’t mention anything about HOW he seemingly broke so easily into flying, although being stateside at the time WAS mentioned. Thanks for the vid though - interesting. :slight_smile:

Traditionally they would but the numbers are dwindling, most will now be civilians.
It’s easier to get into flying in the US, there’s a better structured system, it’s cheaper, there’s less discrimination and more opportunities. I think he’s lucky in that he holds/held some sort of dual citizenship/nationality allowing him to get the best of both worlds, no matter where in the world he flew he always kept his hours.

Winseer:

Pimpdaddy:

Winseer:
I’ve not seen a black Pilot even in the movies… C’mon - someone prove me wrong now with a youtube clip! :astonished:

youtu.be/C1CwHgSMcI0
If you want to see black pilots go to Africa or the US where they’re less likely to be discriminated against!

I always thought the main bar to becoming a pilot was the “shutout” for self-qualified people everywhere.
It would cost a fortune to have enough private flying lessons so that one gets the appropriate thousands of hours flying time in your log - so that an airline would consider letting that pilot fly one of theres…

Pilots being fed into commercial aviation would traditionally come from “ex RAF” background for example. This guy in the vid doesn’t mention anything about HOW he seemingly broke so easily into flying, although being stateside at the time WAS mentioned. Thanks for the vid though - interesting. :slight_smile:

Ironically the selection requirements are based more on school leaver academic qualifications than potential piloting skills or even experience whatsoever.On that note a school leaver with the right GCSE and A level grades,regardless of ethnicity,would have more chance of getting in.Than if the Wright Brothers applied with the qualifications they had when they invented powered flight. :unamused: :laughing:

wanderingstar:
In the last year I’ve noticed one female and one black truck driver. Every single other truck driver I’ve seen has been a white man. When you walk down today’s streets it feels like we’re a dying breed, but there seems to be an invisible barrier between the general working population and an HGV steering wheel. I notice the same effect if you walk off the streets and enter a museum or art gallery or anything to do with our country’s history. There’s an invisible barrier or force field that only indigenous folk or the odd Asian seem to want to cross. What is it about trucking that puts the other races off? I live in the East Midlands where you rarely see a white woman with a white child so it’s not like I’m in one of those isolated little patches where we still predominate. I’m on the M1, M6, M42, M50 each day and see hundreds of truckers thru the week and the demographics of truck driving are clearly at odds with the world ‘out there’.

I do see female truck drivers from time to time - I saw one filling up a DHL truck, I think, at Warwick services yesterday. And there’s a lady who drives a pink tipper/grab truck for Lynch, painted for breast cancer awareness. I saw that on the Strand a few months ago while the works were still going on, and again last week coming down the M40 in Oxfordshire. But very rarely a non-white one.

Carryfast:
Ironically the selection requirements are based more on school leaver academic qualifications than potential piloting skills or even experience whatsoever.On that note a school leaver with the right GCSE and A level grades,regardless of ethnicity,would have more chance of getting in.Than if the Wright Brothers applied with the qualifications they had when they invented powered flight. :unamused: :laughing:

Not really, academic requirements are more for the integrated & MPL training providers (shows how likely you are to pass exams etc during training). Ethnicity always plays a part in almost everything in life, aviation is no exception.

Pimpdaddy:

Carryfast:
Ironically the selection requirements are based more on school leaver academic qualifications than potential piloting skills or even experience whatsoever.On that note a school leaver with the right GCSE and A level grades,regardless of ethnicity,would have more chance of getting in.Than if the Wright Brothers applied with the qualifications they had when they invented powered flight. :unamused: :laughing:

Not really, academic requirements are more for the integrated & MPL training providers (shows how likely you are to pass exams etc during training). Ethnicity always plays a part in almost everything in life, aviation is no exception.

The point being,that regardless of all the PC bs contained in the Tuskeegee Airman example,ethnicity in this case is more a case of unarguable natural selection,not discrimination.Which of course doesn’t fit the integrationist world must live as one Socialist script.

As for the the academic qualifications issue as I said the Wright Brothers would have been washed out at the application stage.Who of course no surprise just happened to a mixture of … ethnic Brit and Swiss.Not African or Asian etc. :wink: :laughing: