Andrejs:
You talk about cheap staff from … but to many British people work all last 20-30 years just for national minimum wages or near.i know company where class 1/2 drivers work(full time contract) last 10 years for about 400 pound per week(about 40-45 hours weekly)and they happy
£400 for 40 - 45hrs isn’t anywhere near minimum wage 
4aaaa4dd:
the problem isn’t the poles or any other eu member coming to Britain, the problem is the british government not increasing the infrastructure to accommodate millions of immigrants so now people cant get homes or school places and are seeing hospital waiting lists sky rocket they blame the most obvious thing they see ? its not the poor poles that are just trying to make a better life for themselfs and their families just as any one on here would if they could find work that paid double what they can earn at home … and if you think we weren’t in the [zb] when the foreign fighters came to fly the spit fires and go back on the front lines to fight for Britain then you are very deluded my friend we brits love to believe we are the centre of the universe and we won the war all by ourselfs all we did was supply a platform for the rest of the world to fight the nazis and then convince ourselves it was us that did it …
We won WW2 mostly because Adolph Hitler made several key errors, one of which being, why didn’t he concentrate all his (huge) military power on the only three beaches the Allies could launch their attack from?
His personality, coupled with the military strategy he adopted was instrumental in his defeat. With a few small tactical changes Hitler could have wiped the floor with us, the Americans and even the Eastern Europeans!!
The Glorious Allied Victory is a bit of a myth really. It was a great moment certainly, but had more to do with the other bloke ■■■■■■■ up, than the Allies being so magnificent.
waynedl:
Andrejs:
You talk about cheap staff from … but to many British people work all last 20-30 years just for national minimum wages or near.i know company where class 1/2 drivers work(full time contract) last 10 years for about 400 pound per week(about 40-45 hours weekly)and they happy£400 for 40 - 45hrs isn’t anywhere near minimum wage
yes but some people here tlk who work for 400 before tax -very small money.but this people carry on work for 400 ,and don t looking for anothet job.
DrivingMissDaisy:
Didn’t he stop on for a [zb] hoose then?c o o n c i l is a zb word…ffs…
Try spelling it correctly 
Spelling it the way you did meant the auto censor caught it (based on the first 4 letters)
“We” won the war? Well, partially, even if you are referring to 1940 to 41 alone. Also, I thought the Nazis did concentrate their fortified defences at the most likely point of invasion - the Pas de Calais, which put off the Allies from trying there. Intelligence (incorrect) also told them it would come there since their mobile forces were largely held back there.
Truckulent:
4aaaa4dd:
the problem isn’t the poles or any other eu member coming to Britain, the problem is the british government not increasing the infrastructure to accommodate millions of immigrants so now people cant get homes or school places and are seeing hospital waiting lists sky rocket they blame the most obvious thing they see ? its not the poor poles that are just trying to make a better life for themselfs and their families just as any one on here would if they could find work that paid double what they can earn at home … and if you think we weren’t in the [zb] when the foreign fighters came to fly the spit fires and go back on the front lines to fight for Britain then you are very deluded my friend we brits love to believe we are the centre of the universe and we won the war all by ourselfs all we did was supply a platform for the rest of the world to fight the nazis and then convince ourselves it was us that did it …We won WW2 mostly because Adolph Hitler made several key errors, one of which being, why didn’t he concentrate all his (huge) military power on the only three beaches the Allies could launch their attack from?
His personality, coupled with the military strategy he adopted was instrumental in his defeat. With a few small tactical changes Hitler could have wiped the floor with us, the Americans and even the Eastern Europeans!!
The Glorious Allied Victory is a bit of a myth really. It was a great moment certainly, but had more to do with the other bloke [zb] up, than the Allies being so magnificent.
I think all the allied casualties in the Italian campaign who ■■■■■■■ loads of Hitler’s forces defending Germany’s Southern borders and interests in Italy would disagree with that.
While the allied invasion of France could have been made anywhere on the beaches of France between the Belgian border and Normandy the problem for Germany being that it’s leadership didn’t know where it would be.While the invasion of Normandy itself was arguably an Allied mistake considering the advantages which just concentrating all the forces used on the invasion of the South of France and attacking Germany’s South Western border with France from there instead.
Over the last 15 to 20 years we haven’t had migration in to the uk we have been saturated. The area of London I was born in has only 20% of the population down as white British in the last census.
I’m sick of how we have to listen to the middle class liberals tell is how it makes us a better more vibrant place. Other than a larger choice of takeaways I don’t see how over stretching are housing education and health services makes things better.
The last couple of weeks we have had the likes of David Blunkett and Jack Straw warning of the problems when the rumos and Bulgarians turn up. They was the ones who opened the floodgates in the east and screamed racist along with the war criminal Blair.
I’ve worked with some eastern euros who have been good blokes and others who are knobs same as British people.
I’d say any firm with a lot of forigen workers are probaly not great jobs as they prey on the migrants not knowing better same as some of the Canadian firms that hire overseas 
What does annoy me is the Jeremy Kyle scum who berate immigrants but won’t go to work themselves.
OP didn’t get a sniff at a job (allegedly) because he’s Polish.
Three pages later and we’re arguing about WW2.
Carryfast:
Truckulent:
4aaaa4dd:
the problem isn’t the poles or any other eu member coming to Britain, the problem is the british government not increasing the infrastructure to accommodate millions of immigrants so now people cant get homes or school places and are seeing hospital waiting lists sky rocket they blame the most obvious thing they see ? its not the poor poles that are just trying to make a better life for themselfs and their families just as any one on here would if they could find work that paid double what they can earn at home … and if you think we weren’t in the [zb] when the foreign fighters came to fly the spit fires and go back on the front lines to fight for Britain then you are very deluded my friend we brits love to believe we are the centre of the universe and we won the war all by ourselfs all we did was supply a platform for the rest of the world to fight the nazis and then convince ourselves it was us that did it …We won WW2 mostly because Adolph Hitler made several key errors, one of which being, why didn’t he concentrate all his (huge) military power on the only three beaches the Allies could launch their attack from?
His personality, coupled with the military strategy he adopted was instrumental in his defeat. With a few small tactical changes Hitler could have wiped the floor with us, the Americans and even the Eastern Europeans!!
The Glorious Allied Victory is a bit of a myth really. It was a great moment certainly, but had more to do with the other bloke [zb] up, than the Allies being so magnificent.
I think all the allied casualties in the Italian campaign who ■■■■■■■ loads of Hitler’s forces defending Germany’s Southern borders and interests in Italy would disagree with that.
While the allied invasion of France could have been made anywhere on the beaches of France between the Belgian border and Normandy the problem for Germany being that it’s leadership didn’t know where it would be.While the invasion of Normandy itself was arguably an Allied mistake considering the advantages which just concentrating all the forces used on the invasion of the South of France and attacking Germany’s South Western border with France from there instead.
I think the Germans expected the allies to invade in the Calais area as there was a huge fake invasion force set up there and it would logically be the easiest crossing.
If the whole force invaded through Italy and the south of France they would have been easy to souround.
However I will bow to your knowledge as a military strategist.
Contraflow:
OP didn’t get a sniff at a job (allegedly) because he’s Polish.Three pages later and we’re arguing about WW2.
No mention of thatcher yet
Contraflow:
OP didn’t get a sniff at a job (allegedly) because he’s Polish.Three pages later and we’re arguing about WW2.
During the war… 
kr79:
Over the last 15 to 20 years we haven’t had migration in to the uk we have been saturated. The area of London I was born in has only 20% of the population down as white British in the last census.
I’m sick of how we have to listen to the middle class liberals tell is how it makes us a better more vibrant place. Other than a larger choice of takeaways I don’t see how over stretching are housing education and health services makes things better.
The last couple of weeks we have had the likes of David Blunkett and Jack Straw warning of the problems when the rumos and Bulgarians turn up. They was the ones who opened the floodgates in the east and screamed racist along with the war criminal Blair.
I’ve worked with some eastern euros who have been good blokes and others who are knobs same as British people.
I’d say any firm with a lot of forigen workers are probaly not great jobs as they prey on the migrants not knowing better same as some of the Canadian firms that hire overseas
What does annoy me is the Jeremy Kyle scum who berate immigrants but won’t go to work themselves.
I think it’s a very similar situation of ethnic Brit working class Americans ( red necks ) ,who fought for their colonial state identity against the ‘liberal’ federalist northern Union forces,having been swamped with cheap/slave African labour,being branded as racists.The fact is playing the racist card and using the relatively small issue of the worst aspects of the indigenous population,to excuse the actions of the cheap labour profiteers and socialist idiots like the Labour Party leadership,is all part of the establishment’s plan,which is mainly all about the combination of cheap labour and increasing the immigrant vote,since the days of Lincoln.The logical conclusion of which will be an immigrant majority taking over the government in the long term.
Contraflow:
OP didn’t get a sniff at a job (allegedly) because he’s Polish.Three pages later and we’re arguing about WW2.
To be fair it was 4aaaa4dd and the Poles who started it. 
kr79:
Carryfast:
Truckulent:
4aaaa4dd:
the problem isn’t the poles or any other eu member coming to Britain, the problem is the british government not increasing the infrastructure to accommodate millions of immigrants so now people cant get homes or school places and are seeing hospital waiting lists sky rocket they blame the most obvious thing they see ? its not the poor poles that are just trying to make a better life for themselfs and their families just as any one on here would if they could find work that paid double what they can earn at home … and if you think we weren’t in the [zb] when the foreign fighters came to fly the spit fires and go back on the front lines to fight for Britain then you are very deluded my friend we brits love to believe we are the centre of the universe and we won the war all by ourselfs all we did was supply a platform for the rest of the world to fight the nazis and then convince ourselves it was us that did it …We won WW2 mostly because Adolph Hitler made several key errors, one of which being, why didn’t he concentrate all his (huge) military power on the only three beaches the Allies could launch their attack from?
His personality, coupled with the military strategy he adopted was instrumental in his defeat. With a few small tactical changes Hitler could have wiped the floor with us, the Americans and even the Eastern Europeans!!
The Glorious Allied Victory is a bit of a myth really. It was a great moment certainly, but had more to do with the other bloke [zb] up, than the Allies being so magnificent.
I think all the allied casualties in the Italian campaign who ■■■■■■■ loads of Hitler’s forces defending Germany’s Southern borders and interests in Italy would disagree with that.
While the allied invasion of France could have been made anywhere on the beaches of France between the Belgian border and Normandy the problem for Germany being that it’s leadership didn’t know where it would be.While the invasion of Normandy itself was arguably an Allied mistake considering the advantages which just concentrating all the forces used on the invasion of the South of France and attacking Germany’s South Western border with France from there instead.
I think the Germans expected the allies to invade in the Calais area as there was a huge fake invasion force set up there and it would logically be the easiest crossing.
If the whole force invaded through Italy and the south of France they would have been easy to souround.
However I will bow to your knowledge as a military strategist.
youtube.com/watch?v=gjF6oGr-Mjw
DrivingMissDaisy:
Didn’t he stop on for a [zb] hoose then?c o o n c i l is a zb word…ffs…
Denis F:
Try spelling it correctly
It is correctly spelt…
…for viewers in Scotland.
macplaxton:
DrivingMissDaisy:
Didn’t he stop on for a [zb] hoose then?c o o n c i l is a zb word…ffs…
Denis F:
Try spelling it correctlyIt is correctly spelt…
…for viewers in Scotland.
Precisely! But due to the PC bull we get these days indigenous dialects become subject to censorship! Fickin tale wagging the dog… 
muckles:
So does UK jobs for UK workers mean german jobs for German workers or Polish jobs for polish workers or maybe Canadian jobs for Canadian workers?What happens then if we find our dream job in another country or the economy of this country ends up in such a state the best way we can earn a decent living is to take employment elsewhere?
Yes on the main part in my opinion. If Britain isn’t primarily for the British, Germany primarily for the Germans, Poland for Poles and Canada for Canadians there is absolutely no point in any of those countries existing as they do, granting citizenship, having cultural groups and populations that identify with that area of land, having armies, navies and air forces who swear allegiance to that land and often die in the name of it.
If I as a British citizen and native of that country (well 50% native) have absolutely no benefit over a complete newcomer then what’s the point of it all. Why not let any nationality join the British army, why not let absolutely any one play for the English/Scottish etc national football teams, why not make the official language of Bradford Urdu, the official language of Leicester Gujarati and Boston Polish. Why not offer all British school places to any EU citizen even if they currently live in Bulgaria, Sweden or Italy.
Now in my opinion, nationality, cultural belonging and putting your own people first in their own country do matter, very much so. These are some of the very fundamental foundations of actually having a country in the first place but in western Europe these foundations have being severely undermined by opening the door wide open, ignoring the existing population and effectively turning the country in to a united nations refugee camp with every nationality under the sun represented and jostling for influence while the British people themselves often look on in bewilderment as the country they now live in would not be recognised by their grand parents, and especially by those who apparently fought and even died fighting fascism so that this situation could be allowed to happen in the first place. Now I can’t speak for any war veteran of any side, but I have strong doubts that many of those who fought in the British army had images of their future and the future of their country being the current predicament where in the next 50 years they and their descendants could well number less than 50% of the population, despite the fact that when they went to war to fight fascism, indigenous British peoples must have accounted for 99+% of the population.
kr79:
Carryfast:
Truckulent:
4aaaa4dd:
the problem isn’t the poles or any other eu member coming to Britain, the problem is the british government not increasing the infrastructure to accommodate millions of immigrants so now people cant get homes or school places and are seeing hospital waiting lists sky rocket they blame the most obvious thing they see ? its not the poor poles that are just trying to make a better life for themselfs and their families just as any one on here would if they could find work that paid double what they can earn at home … and if you think we weren’t in the [zb] when the foreign fighters came to fly the spit fires and go back on the front lines to fight for Britain then you are very deluded my friend we brits love to believe we are the centre of the universe and we won the war all by ourselfs all we did was supply a platform for the rest of the world to fight the nazis and then convince ourselves it was us that did it …We won WW2 mostly because Adolph Hitler made several key errors, one of which being, why didn’t he concentrate all his (huge) military power on the only three beaches the Allies could launch their attack from?
His personality, coupled with the military strategy he adopted was instrumental in his defeat. With a few small tactical changes Hitler could have wiped the floor with us, the Americans and even the Eastern Europeans!!
The Glorious Allied Victory is a bit of a myth really. It was a great moment certainly, but had more to do with the other bloke [zb] up, than the Allies being so magnificent.
I think all the allied casualties in the Italian campaign who ■■■■■■■ loads of Hitler’s forces defending Germany’s Southern borders and interests in Italy would disagree with that.
While the allied invasion of France could have been made anywhere on the beaches of France between the Belgian border and Normandy the problem for Germany being that it’s leadership didn’t know where it would be.While the invasion of Normandy itself was arguably an Allied mistake considering the advantages which just concentrating all the forces used on the invasion of the South of France and attacking Germany’s South Western border with France from there instead.
I think the Germans expected the allies to invade in the Calais area as there was a huge fake invasion force set up there and it would logically be the easiest crossing.
If the whole force invaded through Italy and the south of France they would have been easy to souround.
However I will bow to your knowledge as a military strategist.
^^ As I said, some assumptions and errors were made by Hitler that with better intelligence and more nouse wouldn’t have been made perhaps. I hardly think they could have invaded anywhere…there was rather a lot of gear and men to get ashore…
Can I suggest you take a look at the book ‘How Hitler Could Have Won WW2’ by Professor of Military History Bevin Alexander. It makes a change from the usual American historian that seems to think that America won the War single handed… 
Muckaway:
“UK jobs for UK drivers”?
I agree.
+1
Loving the arm chair generals