Pansie Division:
Snarley you have made yourself look a right prick and learn where spell check is you thick [zb].
Hehehe, spot on.
I bet ‘when I’ doesn’t come back to this thread.
If you don’t ask, you never learn. If you never learn, you never know. If you never know, then you are useless.
I have more respect for people who ask, than ‘know it all’s’ that never ask then f*ck up.
I have never been afraid to ask.
I have asked how to rope and sheet, how to use tail lifts, I have asked people to spot me on blind side reverse. Does this make me stupid? No, it makes me smart.
Mike-C:
Snarley:
Ok, I understand technology, but…
driver… I am lost…
TM, why?
driver, I am in Islington and my sat nav has crashed… How do I get to Hounslow
TM… buy a ■■■■■■ map
driver… cant you guide me on the computer !!!Seriously, do you really rely on technology, you should grow some
They should grow some. Everyones at it !!
Help, how do i get to…?Snarley:
WTF is wrong with the new generation of driversThey learn a lot in a generation and then it gets boring
A generation is only a couple of months now at best .
Nicely done Mike
As to the post, I have met quite a few ‘old timers’ who wouldn’t help but generally they are forthcoming. I’m not an old timer, just 7 years in class 1, but I will help wherever I can.
Along a similar vein, I took my private pilots license back in '90, now have twin, IR etc (bit like having adr & HIAB ) and before 911 I used to get to sit in the jockey seat on an airliner if I was going abroad. I remember an old timer on a 747 out to the states teaching me a load of stuff about instrument nav and when I thanked him he said, ‘in the air we are all the same, pilots, no matter what you fly. In fact I envy you because you have the newness of it and actually have to fly the thing whereas I press buttons’.
We are all truck drivers, and at some point we all have problems. One thing we do know is that no-one outside of us is that keen to bail us out so we’d best look after each other.
Snarley.
It is the drivers like you who make the newer drivers afraid to ask … big deal you got put in a van at 17 to go france … whilst you was doing that people of your age was getting there end away.
As rightly said by others there are 1000’s of years worth of experience on this site, so it can honestly be said that the site in general have been there seen it and done it you have retired drivers only to willing to assist the new drivers well apart from ROG, on a sicky because of the fireworks couple of weeks back.
Lets just hope you do not need help.
We have a driver who admits “isn’t a real driver”, got made redundant from a retail management job and always fancied having a lorry license. Many drivers avoid him because they don’t want to answer his questions and I’ve helped him out with directions, where materials are in the quarry etc.
Recently I’ve been lied to by management and above mentioned driver has stepped in to help me out regarding writing a grievance letter etc. Point is you never know when you may need help in return, no matter how clued up on your job you are.
Muckaway:
. Point is you never know when you may need help in return, no matter how clued up on your job you are.
Agreed, I don’t know a lot, but what i do know I’ll freely (yes, even a Yorkie sometimes gives things away for nowt!!) pass on if it’ll help someone.
The ONLY ‘stupid’ question, is the one that isn’t asked.
As Harry as said pre 911 you could sit up front on an airliner, the pilots never objected my request as it passed the time for them and the boredom.On a TAP Air Portugal flight i could see the curve of the earth, and the first officer was at the back chatting up the flight attendants, and on a 747, an old pilot with an old steel pencil case for his pens, if you passed him in the street you would think he was a school caretaker and not 747 pilot with thousands of hours under his belt.
Good luck with the IR Instrument Rating.
Around ten years ago I found myself, for some insane reason, taking HGV lessons. It was a struggle and a steep learning curve. I happened to find Trucknet and any question I asked, no matter how trivial or stupid always got a helpful answer. The same once I had passed and got my first job.
Fast forward to the present, I still ask questions and still receive good advice and help.
I do not know all there is to know about road haulage and I never will.Trucknet will hopefully be here for as long as I and others need help.
Truck net is not doomed but plankers like you are sure to fail at some point, goodbye and goodnight.
I think for the most part Twa…Er Trucknet is OK. You still find genuine advice amongst the ■■■■■■■■. Heck, even I can be helpful sometimes! 
One or two of the forums I used to frequent in the past have been ruined by autopost software, guerilla marketing tactics, & a general ‘dumbing’ down of the content.
If you’re into motorbikes you might have come across Bike Chat Forum, where you’ll soon realise that all of the above, & much more happens.
I’m not saying that I suspect any of that goes on here at Trucknet, but I do sometimes begin to feel a little uneasy about some of the posts.
Owning a forum can be very lucrative, I frequent CNCZone where the owner is on a very nice £earner but is intelligent & balanced enough to know it can so easily be destroyed if all it’s ‘real’ people find a need to go elsewhere.
I wouldnt say TruckNet is lucrative ( and I see the figures 
) but it does enough to justify the owners keeping it going.
I have lost count how many times over the past 13 years members here with better foresight and knowledge than me have foretold its imminent demise 
But we seem to be still here. 
It has changed in 13 years , in character and tone, but so has the industry and its members, - remember TruckNet itself doesnt provide the content on here, its not written by us, its written by you. So you lot set the tone. We just stop the excesses
I know people hate it when I give facts to back up my point of view- but the simple fact of the matter is last week we had over 617,000 page views, the same week last year we had 520,000 thats close to 100,000 more page views a week.
Doomed? well we maybe but not just yet or for the foreseeable future I think, but what do I know for 13 years all those more knowledgeable members have told me its dying
OP doesn’t have to read the type of topics that annoy him “I can’t reverse” etc.
I did my training (which was excellent BTW) with Peter Smythe and I’m pretty sure that I learnt “the only stupid question is the one you don’t ask”
Trucknet is a fantastic resource for new drivers, it’s not always so easy to approach people out in the field, so to speak.
I’ve learnt lots on here, probably from what the OP would consider to be mundane posts.
happysack:
Comedy gold!
Happysack defo.+1…
To the OP…It’s unbelievably Stupid to critisize other drivers In this manner when by all accounts you need advice just as much, If not more than some of the other drivers on here…
Muckaway:
Point is you never know when you may need help in return, no matter how clued up on your job you are.
+1
Must say this thread is quite funny.
Like many of you on this forum,I’ve been truck driving since I left the forces 45 years ago.
I struggled to get my first job driving a Bedford TK,being a tank driver in the forces carried no weight.
I was given the keys to an old TK,shown how to tie a hitch in a rope and told to get on with it.
Asking advice from other drivers was normal and no one thought any less of you.
Before long.the boss threw me a set of keys for an AEC Mandator and trailer,my first artic, and so it went on.
Within a few short years I’d done flats,coil carriers,containers,tankers,fridges extendibles,tilts,all over the UK before I fell into a middle east job,so now in my semi retirement I can look back with some satisfaction that I’d gained all this experience by being in the right place at the right time and being expected,and trusted to do it.
But,where are the new generation of drivers going to come from?
I ask this because to repeat the case of my son,having driven 7.5 tonne for 10 years and was quite happy until he got made redundant.
In between agency jobs since, he’s spent 3 grand getting his ADR,Hiab,renewing his FLT ticket,full CPC and finally took his class 2.
Nearly every job he goes for it’s the same story,no experience mate,come back when you’ve got 2 years!
No one can tell you where you can buy this experience.
Most of you along with myself gained experioence on the job,we were trusted and it’s got us to where we are today.
I only wish I could bottle my experience and flog it,I’d make a ■■■■■■■ fortune!
You see these latest adverts for flashy new trucks from Volvo,Mercedes,DAF and the like,who the ■■■■ is going to be driving them in the next few years?
So to get back to the theme of this thread,if it will help any aspiring truck driver who asks for advice,I’ll give it gladly.We all had to start somewhere and it’s not getting any easier to start in this industry that has changed greatly in the time I’ve spent in it.
(On a brighter note,my lad has got a 3 month contract on a class 2 with a major parcel firm,so maybe this is the break he’s been waiting for,and if he has any questions,he knows where to come for a sensible answer).
tango boy:
Snarley:
I read the posts every day, but lately it is doing my brain in…
- I can’t reverse
- what is my spreadover
- Tacho regukations
- bla bla bla
When I was 17, I was sent to marseille, on my own in a transit. I bought a map, and did it.
I now drive a 44t artic, when I get new jobs, I sort it,WTF is wrong with the new generation of drivers.
regulations■■?
i dont see what the problem is in asking questions, if snarley dont like it then dont read it simples…
its people like him that does my head in by being a kn*b head,
Please reply ‘Snarley’…I love these type of threads. One thing I do like about Trucknet is the ability to look back on peoples ‘posting history’ so as to be able to catch em looking like a douche …
Help, I need somebody
muckles:
Personally I think the ting that will doom trucknet is the attitude of some of the posters.Over the years I seen a decrease in the witty, helpful types, many who had years of experience and were willing to share it and those who seem to like their job or their truck and want to share it with other like mined people, they seem to have given up due to the increase in rude, unhelpful people who’s only role seems to slag off anybody who has a point of view different to theirs or who might be actually enjoying their job or who wants some advice.
I’d hate to be a new driver now if this is representative of what new drivers have to face when they start working as a truck driver.
+1
oops !
Did I touch a nerve
LOL