and coming from one of the most unhealthy areas in britain lol
Less graffiti in Germany? You obviously haven’t been in many train yards there then…
Has it not occurred to you that the reason there is less litter there is because
A> there are more rubbish bins there, which actually get emptied
B> there are more people used to collect rubbish from the roadside
C> people actually respect things a little more
In truth, the number of bottles of truckers tizer is really frightening, but the last time I went to Ashford truckjoke the amount of plastic in the ditches would have made 2 ERFs and a Reliant Robin from scratch, yet the council just left it there. Surely they could have set up a chain gang from the nick and had them puncture the bottles and pick them up? Then they could see when people were dropping them and make them part of the next cleanup gang?
When it comes to rubbish, I always bag it up and throw it in the bin. I hate seeing it all over the place.
BradCarTransporter:
switchlogic:
BradCarTransporter:
Where would you like us to put the ■■■ ends ■■Ummm, in the ashtray possibly?
And then set my own truck on fire
no chance.
This is a joke…isn’t it?
If you choose to smoke at least have the courtesy to use your ash tray, if you think it is unsafe either don’t smoke or stop when you want a ■■■ so you can dispose of your dog end safely.
I have been unlucky enough to suffer a truck fire as a result of someone discarding a lit dog end, it landed on the back of my truck where my folded up sheet was and it managed to get lodged within the folds of the sheet, outcome…truck fire, me stuck on the hard shoulder for a number of hours and all my personal gear destroyed along with my bosses 2 year old truck, I would have blamed an electrical fault or something but the fire brigade found the cause to be said dog end… Thanks 
I have never come across a more inconciderent group of people as smokers, no care for anyone else, just as long as they can smoke the rest can go ■■■■ themselves!!
let the flaming commence 
jimti:
I have never come across a more inconciderent group of people as smokers, no care for anyone else, just as long as they can smoke the rest can go [zb] themselves!!
where’s the nodding donkey smilie?
years ago my dad and his mate managed to set fire to their own cab by a ciggie end that missed the ashtray - then they had to sit on springs and strings that are normally under foam and upholstery and also sleep on those seats as the bunks were gone, for two days till they got back to the yard. They blamed electricity but who could believe them when the dashboard was still there and working?
malcn:
what is it with you smokers chucking lit ■■■ ends out,
if you ever cycled and were hit or just missed by one of those things, then you an opinion on these guys…
bobthedog:
Less graffiti in Germany? You obviously haven’t been in many train yards there then…Has it not occurred to you that the reason there is less litter there is because
A> there are more rubbish bins there, which actually get emptied
B> there are more people used to collect rubbish from the roadside
C> people actually respect things a little moreIn truth, the number of bottles of truckers tizer is really frightening, but the last time I went to Ashford truckjoke the amount of plastic in the ditches would have made 2 ERFs and a Reliant Robin from scratch, yet the council just left it there. Surely they could have set up a chain gang from the nick and had them puncture the bottles and pick them up? Then they could see when people were dropping them and make them part of the next cleanup gang?
When it comes to rubbish, I always bag it up and throw it in the bin. I hate seeing it all over the place.
I was in Ashford one Friday evening and they told me they had just had a visit from the council to renew the planning permission. Just before this, they had brought in a gang of lads and some cleaners who collected two twin wheel farm trailer loads of ■■■■ bottles from the dyke
BradCarTransporter:
Where would you like us to put the ■■■ ends ■■
Swallow 'em you dirty F*****s, bit of extra fibre may do you some good 
Sick to death of moaning truckers when the motorways on a go slow in the summer because some Knobber has thrown a dimp into the central res or verge 
With a username like that i’d ■■■■ myself if it went straight on the trailer and “frazzled” the load
Ok so you got to stop calling them ■■■■!!! after living in Canada for 6 years and being an Ex-Smoker. they are called Smokes or Cigs. I dont need to tell you all what ■■■■ are do i 
and dont ever say your going outside to ■■■■ on a ■■■ cause that could get you beat up pretty bad 
ppc25:
Ok so you got to stop calling them ■■■■!!! after living in Canada for 6 years and being an Ex-Smoker. they are called Smokes or Cigs. I dont need to tell you all what ■■■■ are do i
Will need to start a new thread if we start on language differences.Nearly gave my dispatcher a coronary when I phoned to tell him I’d just “tipped” in Vancouver.Not to mention a queue or a fortnight.Nowadays when I get a blank response to something I’ve said I accuse them of ■■■■■■■■■■■■ the Queens English,usually works a treat.
speedyguy:
BradCarTransporter:
Where would you like us to put the ■■■ ends ■■Swallow 'em you dirty F*****s, bit of extra fibre may do you some good
Sick to death of moaning truckers when the motorways on a go slow in the summer because some Knobber has thrown a dimp into the cenitral res or verge
With a username like that i’d ■■■■ myself if it went straight on the trailer and “frazzled” the load
It would save my firm a lot of time depolluting the cars if it did happen,as its only the metal they are after I wouldn’t worry too much. But I too would ■■■■ myself if you were caught in the traffic built up behind me.
So a canvas tarpaulin in a 56mph airstream can catch fire from a discarded dog end, as can a quilt that by law has to be fireproof, causing lorries to be burned to the ground
What a load of bollox
& as for the tanker being pierced by something flung up from the tyres, well if it can pierce a tank barrel I’d have thought it would’ve burst the tyre that kicked it up in the air in the first place
The Mont Blanc truck fire, caused by a cigarette ■■■■? Well yes according to Volvo’s lawyers, but then according to OJ Simpsons lawyers he never murdered his wife
ppc25:
Ok so you got to stop calling them ■■■■!!! after living in Canada for 6 years and being an Ex-Smoker. they are called Smokes or Cigs. I dont need to tell you all what ■■■■ are do i
In the early days of the interweb, I used a chat room in MSN and mentioning one of my favourite musicians got me several 48 hour bans. I like John Lee ■■■■■■
I remember a bloke telling his then Australian girlfriend that he was about to get a tug from the German police 
newmercman:
So a canvas tarpaulin in a 56mph airstream can catch fire from a discarded dog end, as can a quilt that by law has to be fireproof, causing lorries to be burned to the groundWhat a load of bollox
& as for the tanker being pierced by something flung up from the tyres, well if it can pierce a tank barrel I’d have thought it would’ve burst the tyre that kicked it up in the air in the first place
The Mont Blanc truck fire, caused by a cigarette ■■■■? Well yes according to Volvo’s lawyers, but then according to OJ Simpsons lawyers he never murdered his wife
All I can say is in my case that is exactly what happened, there is no dispute about that, the fire brigade report was not going to gain or lose from stating the cause of the fire so why would they make it up
Maybe H&S stipulate fire proof sheets these days…I don’t know, but the sheet on the back of my truck certainly wasn’t fire proof and the end result was a fire caused by a cigarette end, and as I was on a motorway at the time I can only conclude someone had trown it from a vehicle or off a bridge onto my truck where it landed in the load sheet causing it to catch fire. Perhaps a contributary factor was that the sheet was ingrained with oil from the bright steel it was used to cover, but that still doesn’t take away the fact that a cigarette was what caused it to catch fire.
Using your logic I suspect you don’t think cigarettes have ever started fires at the side of the roads either.
jimti:
newmercman:
So a canvas tarpaulin in a 56mph airstream can catch fire from a discarded dog end, as can a quilt that by law has to be fireproof, causing lorries to be burned to the groundWhat a load of bollox
All I can say is in my case that is exactly what happened, there is no dispute about that, the fire brigade report was not going to gain or lose from stating the cause of the fire so why would they make it up
Maybe H&S stipulate fire proof sheets these days…I don’t know, but the sheet on the back of my truck certainly wasn’t fire proof and the end result was a fire caused by a cigarette end, and as I was on a motorway at the time I can only conclude someone had trown it from a vehicle or off a bridge onto my truck where it landed in the load sheet causing it to catch fire. Perhaps a contributary factor was that the sheet was ingrained with oil from the bright steel it was used to cover, but that still doesn’t take away the fact that a cigarette was what caused it to catch fire.Using your logic I suspect you don’t think cigarettes have ever started fires at the side of the roads either.
I’m quite sure many fires have been caused by discarded dog ends, but a canvas tarpaulin spontaneously combusting does sound a little far fetched, you don’t usually post a load of drivel, so I was a little suprised by your post TBH, as you say the oil was a contributory factor, but I do find it a little concerning that the fire erupted with such speed that it instantly set fire to the wooden floorboards, travelled 20’ or so, then reached the cab before you could grab your copy of readers wives and your flask, having set fire to a pallet or two in my time I know it takes quite a fire to get them to burn, I assume a floorboard woill burn in the same manner, so all I can say is that it must’ve been a [zb]ing big ■■■ ■■■■ to cause such an inferno
It doesn’t happen as often these days with improvements in design & maintanence, but what’s the worst thing you can do if you get a brake/grease fire on a trailer wheel?
STOP!
It will then promptly set fire to the trailer.
Best thing to do is phone the fire brigade & tell them to catch you up, when they have, stop.
However, not many mountain descents in the UK long/steep enough where this has been a problem.
Remember also in the old days, engine brakes were not as efficent as they are today & often didn’t work at all.
Never bothered me before but yesterday it was quite a nice afternoon, on the way home from work I had the sunroof open . The twit in the puddlejumper in front lobbed his ■■■ end out the window, bounced off my bonnet, through the sunroof and hit me on the arm.
Wasn’t that bothered but I’ve just fitted a new front facing car seat for my little 'un and it landed right next to it. The thought of it hitting him isn’t a pleasant one at all.
Most ■■■■■■ off I was.
You can smoke all you like, but please don’t throw them out the window, its just littering at best and could hurt someone at worst.
I don’t see why I should have to keep my windows closed on a nice day just because someone can’t be bothered to use an ash tray.
here here
BradCarTransporter:
Where would you like us to put the ■■■ ends ■■
Into the ashtray or bins provided, my dear Watson
bobthedog:
Less graffiti in Germany? You obviously haven’t been in many train yards there then…Has it not occurred to you that the reason there is less litter there is because
A> there are more rubbish bins there, which actually get emptied
Myth… In Poland, for example, you have litter bins only on the bus/tram stops and in the city centres… There is much more bins in Britain…
B> there are more people used to collect rubbish from the roadside
I never seen any people collecting rubbish from the roadside in Poland, except for volunteers in the Earth Day. I used to take part in that action when I was a scoutmaster and my kids managed to get almost two sacks of rubbish on the few km stretch of the main road… It would be propably a two skips for the same lenght of the road in UK…
C> people actually respect things a little more
People do not respect things much more in Poland, but throwing litter on the street is not widely accepted. There are some dump dupers who put their rubbish somewhere in the forrest, and that’s a problem, but you don’t do it on the street, as it’s simply a shame and someone will point it to you that you are doing wrong and ask you to pick your rubbish. I never seen anyone reacting to littering people here in Britain.
So I am sorry to say that and I am going to put my hardhat on now, as I know that British people do not like to hear such a things from a foreigher, but I will say it: Britain is a wonderful country, the people are in general as every other folks on the world and have some good sides and bad sides, and one of your bad sides is that you are a dirty nation. It’s not so dirty here because lack of litter bins and etc. It’s dirty here, becouse British people litter and this is widely tolerated. That’s why.
When it comes to rubbish, I always bag it up and throw it in the bin. I hate seeing it all over the place.
this is exactly what I do. And I was giving once a lift to the trade plater, the English guy. He ate a chocolate bar, then throwed the paper out of the window. I pointed out to him that I have a bag hanging on the middle seat headrest and that he can put his rubbish there. He was really impressed to see this. He said “Man, you are weird, you are carrying bag of rubbish with you…”… it says everything.
As for the main topic: my father was driving a car once in summer, so he had his window open and someone’s cigarette end landed on the back sit and before he noticed and was able to stop safely, it burned a big hole in the upholstery…
Lot of forrest fires are also caused by doing this…
So i do believe that the cig ends can cause a fire… But I think that the bigger problem is that it’s simply littering.
newmercman:
I’m quite sure many fires have been caused by discarded dog ends, but a canvas tarpaulin spontaneously combusting does sound a little far fetched, you don’t usually post a load of drivel, so I was a little suprised by your post TBH, as you say the oil was a contributory factor, but I do find it a little concerning that the fire erupted with such speed that it instantly set fire to the wooden floorboards, travelled 20’ or so, then reached the cab before you could grab your copy of readers wives and your flask, having set fire to a pallet or two in my time I know it takes quite a fire to get them to burn, I assume a floorboard woill burn in the same manner, so all I can say is that it must’ve been a [zb]ing big ■■■ ■■■■ to cause such an inferno
I don’t know where you got the spontaneously combusting or 20’ from, I would guess the said dog end was in the sheet for a while and the wind at 56 mph would have fanned the fire, I didn’t notice it until things were well alight and it was another motorist that drew my attention to the fire, the sheet was behind the headboard and the head board was already starting to burn by the time I pulled up, I did save a bit of my kit, but as I was on the hard shoulder of the motorway there wasn’t much room for me to get a cab load of gear out and away from the truck even if I wanted to, adding to that the heat was quite intense within seconds of stopping. The fire engine arrived in under 10 minutes from my call from the roadside phone (before mobiles)according to the report, (it seemed a lot longer to me) by then the cab was gutted.