dieseldog999:
Harry Monk:
toonsy:
What we need is a resident fridge expert to fill in the gaps for us…I see what you did there.
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possibly he is back in dubai where they have limited internet access. hes here in spirit though,and never far away…
Isn’t he in NZ secret testing fully autonomous wagons that will replace us all next year? or have i got me multi personality trolls mixed up again 
chester:
Feel free to correct me if Iam wrong, but isn’t it a driver’s responsibility to check vehicle and load is suitable for the public highway.Bonus points awarded to the first numpty who says “you can’t always check your load because of a seal”
P D Ports at Teesport wont let you open trailers until outside the port
the nodding donkey:
Stop feeding the troll.
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chester:
Feel free to correct me if Iam wrong, but isn’t it a driver’s responsibility to check vehicle and load is suitable for the public highway.Bonus points awarded to the first numpty who says “you can’t always check your load because of a seal”
I don’t know what sort of seal a ferry trailer has, but containers are invariably sealed using a bolt seal which requires a 3’ long set of bolt croppers to remove so why would anyone be a “numpty” if they couldn’t check the load because of one?
Genuine question, just curious.
Juddian:
dieseldog999:
Harry Monk:
toonsy:
What we need is a resident fridge expert to fill in the gaps for us…I see what you did there.
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+1
possibly he is back in dubai where they have limited internet access. hes here in spirit though,and never far away…Isn’t he in NZ secret testing fully autonomous wagons that will replace us all next year? or have i got me multi personality trolls mixed up again
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the thought just occured to me…
if he ends up sometime in the future committing suicide, would he be classed as a serial killer?.. 
I thought that he opened the trailer to let the immigrants out. He found the bodies and called the ambulance.
dieseldog999:
Dave73-UK:
dieseldog999:
and for complete wazzock trolls like chester who obviously have no concept whatsoever of inter port movements,. it is never required to break seals coming from ports otherwise the goods will be rejected.
if anything needs looked at,then customs or immigration will do it whether you want them to or not,thereafter it will be resealed and your notes stamped.
the other option is itl be sealed with a big bolt rivet thing that you need bolt cutters to remove at delivery point,so stick to truck simulator chester old son and dont keep making a fool of yourself.Then again, if this is true why is he then opening the unit less than an hour later looking for “paperwork” makes no logical sense, if fridge units like this are usually sealed the paperwork ain’t gona be in the back door like it is on curtainsiders.
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it can make logcal sense.
some consignees dont need the seal though its prudent to have it on in and out of the docks.
if the paperwork isnt stuck inside the fridge motor,then itl be flung in the back doors.
the scania has stacks,so unless he is built like bobby sands,then he wouldnt be able to retrieve them from the motor.
It may be different but when I pulled unaccompanied fridges out of Hull bound for the Scotish markets, the paperwork was always in the tube with the screw on top mounted either on the headboard or by the winding handle.
Certainly never had the need to pull into a secluded street off Hessle road to go looking for it in the back doors.
Having done a few unaccompanied trailers, we would pick them up, drive out after clearing the camera check we had correct trailer, then stop up the road, open back door to get the delivery/cmr out so as to check we had been giving the correct delivery address.
And I also think our representative from Tang land MrDD is correct.
The fella has been released with no charges, which is what’s important.
biggriffin:
The fella has been released with no charges, which is what’s important.
Err. The cops have been granted another 24 hours of questioning.
I’m guessing he wont be “keeping her lit” for a while.
i got arrested about 10 years ago for alleged dodgy stuff in the trailer.
stopped on the motorway,and took back to the ports holding sheds.
they held me incommunicado for 24 hours till they checked all my phones ect,then arrested the guy i worked for and let me out on bail pending future charges.( thankfully they wont be arriving),
he got let out when he proved had been a innocent subby for another company and so it goes up the line. eventually that guy got the rap pinned to him .
horrible situation to be in for the wee tang lad.
he was living his dream with a gruntmobile full spec king of the road,at 25 year old doing euro work in a left ■■■■■■…theres no better job for lots over here.
This seems to be leading to a higher scandal involving actual EU based port authorities…
It takes military precision to get 39 people onto a trailer in a narrow window in between a trailer being sealed in the prescence of a driver and harbour official AND coupling upto that trailer, driving it onto a ferry, all the way to blightly - only to realize when popping the seal in the prescence of another official upon arrival that “you’ve been had, - large”…
We’ve heard already about “-25 fooling thermal imagining camaeras” along with “only a small sample are put through any checks”.
We’ve also heard from drivers talking in the media about “taking hinges and entire fridge trailer doors off” to keep an already-sealed consignment apparently intact, bundle in the people, then screw the door back on, “No one saw, no one heard”…
Now this latter point - would have to have taken place WITHIN the secure harbour compound - wouldn’t it?
In any case, between officials at some place like Zeebrugge “checking and sealing the trailer” and a tug putting it on a ferry as a standing trailer - the 39 unfortunates that have perished MUST have been bundled onto the trailer overseas if the trailer then got taken to somewhere like Purfleet, where Mr Robinson picked it up - still sealed - in good faith, popped across town to Eastern Avenue to deal with other admin aspects, only to then pop the seal to get paperwork out on the back - and only THEN realizing what a huge tragedy and huge CRIME has occured, not of his making, the way I see it.
This investigation - is, and needs to be on an INTERNATIONAL level, looking in particular at port authorities, and transport firms around the shengen zone in particular.
A tragedy, a Crime - and soon I suspect - an international SCANDAL as well. 
Someone else is going to have to tell me what kind of Biscuits get frozen solid for transport purposes… 
Santa:
I thought that he opened the trailer to let the immigrants out. He found the bodies and called the ambulance.
Surely he wouldn’t pick an industrial estate to “let anyone there out”? - Somewhere secluded in the middle of nowhere would be more appropriate IF he was “in on it”?
“Calling an ambulance” wouldn’t be the actions of someone “in on it” neither, come to that…
Didn’t he also pick up the trailer for the first time at Purfleet docks, rather than come across the sea with it already coupled up to his tractor?
Winseer:
Santa:
I thought that he opened the trailer to let the immigrants out. He found the bodies and called the ambulance.Surely he wouldn’t pick an industrial estate to “let anyone there out”? - Somewhere secluded in the middle of nowhere would be more appropriate IF he was “in on it”?
“Calling an ambulance” wouldn’t be the actions of someone “in on it” neither, come to that…
Didn’t he also pick up the trailer for the first time at Purfleet docks, rather than come across the sea with it already coupled up to his tractor?
Maybe not but you can bet they are holding on to the lad whilst the authorities round up everyone else that is anywhere near this one.
Where it was loaded, who dropped it in ZB, where it was heading for. Anyone with any comercial interest to eliminate them from inquiries.
Probably not knowingly “in on it” but definitely " in it"
Winseer:
Santa:
I thought that he opened the trailer to let the immigrants out. He found the bodies and called the ambulance.“Calling an ambulance” wouldn’t be the actions of someone “in on it” neither, come to that…
If he was in on it, what else could he do? Surely it would have been far worse if he hadn’t.
the mail seems to have covered every possible aspect and scenario surrounded by the biggest pile of speculative pish ive seen in the one article since i can remember.
now he is an o/d ,with the truck registered in bulgaria to an “irish” woman though its not been to bulgaria for 2 years.
because a fridge can do -25,then they say they could have frozen to death.or…suffocated,or .suffocated and frozen,ectect.
just as much speculated waffle as what we are reading in here.
ive no knowledge of having to freeze biscuits at -25,but theres always the option of it being a splitter with the door down separating them from the rest of the load.
although i personally prefer to work now and then for similar themed companies as i just cant stand working for the bigger plobber type employers,then its a shame that it has all the obvious hooligan optional extras that cant be doing him any favours,
northern irish,from county armagh,subby,flagged out on bg plates,unmarked with no name,and rental trailer.
id imagine they will try to work out where he has been since coming off the ferry on sat night,and if he went across to france and back after the weekend and see how interesting the trace looks like.
either way itl be a bit of a nailbiter for him these next few months.
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to useHell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.Ref facts see above post (again) none so blind as those that cannot see
Mazzer, your posts are always interesting because they are clever, insightful and to the point.
This *****ER person on the other hand is totally clueless about international haulage operations obviously and perhaps all other haulage ops as well because I haven’t read a post of his for years so I recommend you don’t waste your time on him.
I’m interested in the awful situation Mo R finds himself in and I sincerely hope he is getting the support he needs while “helping the police with their enquiries”.
Can anyone imagine the shock and horror that young driver faced when he opened that door? It’s the stuff of permanent nightmares. I hope he gets over it and I have my fingers crossed for his innocence.
The keystone cops in Essex are a bit of a worry though.
I have taken a ferry to Ireland and back as a foot passenger and there was absolutely no passport checks whatsoever in any direction so why on earth would the coppers reckon a group of Chinese people would need to stash in a fridge to come to UK from Ireland like they led everyone to believe initially?
May those poor souls rest in peace and God help those they left behind to get over this awful tragedy.
Hopefully the traffickers and slave employers here will get their just desserts very soon.
Hurryup&wait:
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to useHell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.Ref facts see above post (again) none so blind as those that cannot see
Mazzer, your posts are always interesting because they are clever, insightful and to the point.
This *****ER person on the other hand is totally clueless about international haulage operations obviously and perhaps all other haulage ops as well because I haven’t read a post of his for years so I recommend you don’t waste your time on him.
I’m interested in the awful situation Mo R finds himself in and I sincerely hope he is getting the support he needs while “helping the police with their enquiries”.
Can anyone imagine the shock and horror that young driver faced when he opened that door? It’s the stuff of permanent nightmares. I hope he gets over it and I have my fingers crossed for his innocence.
The keystone cops in Essex are a bit of a worry though.
I have taken a ferry to Ireland and back as a foot passenger and there was absolutely no passport checks whatsoever in any direction so why on earth would the coppers reckon a group of Chinese people would need to stash in a fridge to come to UK from Ireland like they led everyone to believe initially?
May those poor souls rest in peace and God help those they left behind to get over this awful tragedy.
Hopefully the traffickers and slave employers here will get their just desserts very soon.
I keep an open mind but that’s the problem with his potential innocence at the end of your post. It looks like the work of a professional trafficking operation who will most likely have got their return from those inside slaving away in nail bars. You have to ask yourself how likely they are to gamble all that planning and payday on letting any random innocent joe truck driver pull the trailer at any stage with the risk of them hearing a noise in the back and being straight on the blower to Plod and Border Force.
Of course those inside could have been under strict instructions to keep quiet but even if they take that gamble there’s still a risk the driver inevitability spots them at the final delivery point. If I was plod I’d be wanting very strong evidence the driver was just dropping the trailer somewhere, for someone else to be making the final delivery before letting him go.
If you asked me to describe what type of truck would most likely be involved in this type of thing you’d pick a blinged up Irish Scanny flagged out to Bulgaria over a fleet spec blue chip one all day long.
“Certainly never had the need to pull into a secluded street off Hessle road to go looking for it in the back doors”.
Can readers suggest any other reasons for pulling into a secluded street off Hessle Road, Hull?
chinese6:
“Certainly never had the need to pull into a secluded street off Hessle road to go looking for it in the back doors”.Can readers suggest any other reasons for pulling into a secluded street off Hessle Road, Hull?
I can but the mere thought of it warrants a course of antibiotics.
Couple of questions I’d like to raise if I may to the chiller pros…
Firstly, Is it usual practice for a chiller to be used for anything other than chilled/frozen goods?
I mean it’s gonna look dodgy if the consignment notes say pallets of durex, yet she’s set to minus 25, and sealed up.
I mean don’t get me wrong I’ve wished for some pre chilled rubber over the friction stick in my time but it’s a bit odd.
Secondly, now surely 39 bodies are gonna add some weight to the trailer, and as yet no mention of cargo/amount I’ve seen…?
Which leads me to wonder if he noticed it were maybe feeling odd, so if empty apart from the pour souls in it, I’d presume passed at time of movement maybe they were causing a issues…
Or it felt heavier and so he felt it best to pull up somewhere quiet and check as if you know the Essex area it’s a vosa picknic spot, and being a young OD, nice rig, unusual registration process of wagon, and him being from across the shores maybe he just panicked as I’m sure Alot of us would and dived down a bolt hole before getting potentially crucified.
Now you may say Ooooh he went and hid, he’s guilty but I’m sorry to say if my home, job, income maybe at stake I’d be having a panic too, especially if i knew I’m done for regardless due to the bollox of law, and maybe he simply were tired and overlooked the obvious…
So it’s now a case of damage limitations…
Thirdly, I’m no expert on how long one of these needs to be running when empty to get it to the required temp for say its next load, but I’d assume not long IF empty, and would it be pre sealed for hygiene reasons even when empty if it were say going to be used for specialist goods like pharmaceuticals?
Alot of missing pieces in this case, like Where’s he been since coming over for a Bob tail session and all the other variations to the tale.
I feel press have been bang outta line plastering him out there, as at end of the day if he is guilty of anything it would have been made public in time, but as of yet…(unless the dark forces know otherwise or are playing otherwise…)…
Lads innocent till proven and should be treated as such.
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