chester:
Mazzer2:
There is no requirement to if you know who loaded it obviously didn’t read what I wrote but then perhaps at 10 years old your levels of comprehension are still underdevelopedShow me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?
See the above post
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
There is no requirement to if you know who loaded it obviously didn’t read what I wrote but then perhaps at 10 years old your levels of comprehension are still underdevelopedShow me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?See the above post
Nothing black and white in the above post, just someone’s interpretation.
Why can no one provide a link?
Picked a trailer up yesterday with a sign on the back,stating"do not break seal"
So I did’nt 
Named and shamed the driver before proof he was involved.
Sad
RIP to the illegal immigrants,this is why we need better secure borders.
chester:
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
There is no requirement to if you know who loaded it obviously didn’t read what I wrote but then perhaps at 10 years old your levels of comprehension are still underdevelopedShow me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?See the above post
Nothing black and white in the above post, just someone’s interpretation.
Why can no one provide a link?
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load security
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load security
I have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
Franglais:
chester:
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
There is no requirement to if you know who loaded it obviously didn’t read what I wrote but then perhaps at 10 years old your levels of comprehension are still underdevelopedShow me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?See the above post
Nothing black and white in the above post, just someone’s interpretation.
Why can no one provide a link?Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load security
Give the kid a break hes busy with trucking simulator
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Franglais:
chester:
Show me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?See the above post
Nothing black and white in the above post, just someone’s interpretation.
Why can no one provide a link?
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Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load security
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Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to use
chester:
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load securityI have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
2 Nov 2018
Vehicle Operators Guidance.
Load Security
Edit
The .gov.uk site (obviously)
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to use
Hell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.
Stop feeding the troll.
chester:
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to useHell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.
Ref facts see above post (again) none so blind as those that cannot see
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to useHell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.Ref facts see above post (again) none so blind as those that cannot see
Not one link, or actual extract as been presented.
Link the FTA code of Practice all you want, but nowhere will it say what you claim 
Beetlejuice:
Named and shamed the driver before proof he was involved.
SadRIP to the illegal immigrants,this is why we need better secure borders.
It’s a tactic because they suspect one or more people in the operation are involved. They do it to make the friends and relatives of the driver put pressure on those higher up the foodchain.
chester:
Mazzer2:
chester:
Feel free to correct me if Iam wrong, but isn’t it a driver’s responsibility to check vehicle and load is suitable for the public highway.Bonus points awarded to the first numpty who says “you can’t always check your load because of a seal”
Break a seal on a fridge trailer loaded with food coming out of Europe and you might as well put it back on the ferry, instant rejection at the places where we tip coming out of France into the UK, but then with your vast experience you would know this, wouldn’t you?
So at your place you regularly take loads out on the public highway without knowing the legality or even if the loads suitability restrained.
Well done you.
Just an observation If you are picking a running reefer set at -25 even if you opened the back doors you couldn’t see zb,for the iced vapour blowing at you, And this trailers frigo was on freeze the illegals would have been dead long before the trailer had left the ferry, if you look up how long the sailing times are from Zeebrugge
chester:
Mazzer2:
chester:
Mazzer2:
Nothing wrong with his google just a bit to difficult for the average imbecile to useHell fire, feisty lot you are aren’t you.
I’ve only merely asked for facts or evidence of you fictional claims of “you don’t need to check loads and you can’t break seals etc” and none of you can.
So now you realise your all wrong, and you’ve got egg on your face the insults start.Ref facts see above post (again) none so blind as those that cannot see
Not one link, or actual extract as been presented.
Link the FTA code of Practice all you want, but nowhere will it say what you claim
Obviously the driver is entitled to demand to inspect load security of any load even if that means breaking the seal before turning a wheel. Fine if you want to exercise that right but don’t be surprised when no-one wants to keep you in a job or you find yourself wrongly accused of theft when a consignment is checked and some is found missing.
Personally I view the comfort of knowing I can’t be held responsible for anything inside, because the seal has not been broken, as much more preferable to peering inside a rigid sided trailer at some stretchwrapped pallets of chilled goods which are never going to bust through the side of the trailer.
Own Account Driver:
Obviously the driver is entitled to demand to inspect load security of any load even if that means breaking the seal before turning a wheel. Fine if you want to exercise that right but don’t be surprised when no-one wants to keep you in a job or you find yourself wrongly accused of theft when a consignment is checked and some is found missing.Personally I view the comfort of knowing I can’t be held responsible for anything inside, because the seal has not been broken, as much more preferable to peering inside a rigid sided trailer at some stretchwrapped pallets of chilled goods which are never going to bust through the side of the trailer.
going by the reports the load was Frozen not chilled , if it had been +2/3 they wouldn’t have died
chester:
Mazzer2:
There is no requirement to if you know who loaded it obviously didn’t read what I wrote but then perhaps at 10 years old your levels of comprehension are still underdevelopedShow me where it says you don’t need to check your load if you know who loaded it.
Take as much time as you need?
Systems are put in place, there is generally a paper trail which accompanied the load starting with loading point, driver, trailer number, date, time, load description, pallets, strapped, many places take a photograph of the load, and the security devices before affixing seals. Each driver signs this form as they take over the trailer. That was our system with Transalliance.
Of course the seal has to have been cut to load the illegals, but these traffickers are clever
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tommy t:
Own Account Driver:
Obviously the driver is entitled to demand to inspect load security of any load even if that means breaking the seal before turning a wheel. Fine if you want to exercise that right but don’t be surprised when no-one wants to keep you in a job or you find yourself wrongly accused of theft when a consignment is checked and some is found missing.Personally I view the comfort of knowing I can’t be held responsible for anything inside, because the seal has not been broken, as much more preferable to peering inside a rigid sided trailer at some stretchwrapped pallets of chilled goods which are never going to bust through the side of the trailer.
going by the reports the load was Frozen not chilled , if it had been +2/3 they wouldn’t have died
Fridge trailers are virtually airtight. They probably would have died in less than an hour from excess carbon dioxide.
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An empty fridge is about 80 cubic metres.
That’s just 2 cubic metres for each person. (Two IBC s each) If there was a part load it’d be less.
Poor buggers didn’t have even half a chance.
chance whoever set it up knew it was a death sentence but didnt care , got the money boyo and plenty more waiting ready to pay and hop on board. things like that are long term organized from back in the mother country they wont ever let this get onto chinese evening news