To the Robert Burns driver on the A66 this morning

Then zb pull over and let him get on his way , it’s not hard is it , but no like a lot you take pleasure in ■■■■■■■ other drivers off , were you a tractor driver in the past :unamused:

Do you know that particular road, did you actually read what I wrote, or more importantly understand what I was trying to say?

With drivers with attitudes like yours we are all done for, I guess a bloke like you won’t get that either, but hey ho, takes all sorts, just a shame lots of them hold vocational licences!

To many blue eyed boys these days rushing around, scared of the job, and not giving a toss about the law or any other road users, or even other HGV Drivers, like I said in another post, thank ■■■■ I only have a few years to go!

MickM

Although pulling into a layby is an option a lot depends on the attitude of the driver up your chuff, if he is hanging back but obviously, lighter, faster, more stable etc then I often pull over.

If he is so close up my chuff a reachround is possible and driving in a manner that I feel is aggressive then I may make things worse for him, I may also leave it to the last second to pass obstacles or suddenly lurch over for no reason.

I often find these heroes are OK on the straight but lose ground on the bendy bits due to a serious lack of talent.

Not that I’d ever drive in a dangerous manner just there are options if I’m having a bad day.

Brake testing is forbidden in truck club so I’m sure no one would ever consider that no matter how irritating the following knob jockey is trying to be.

In the end though it’s just another driver doing his thing, driving like a ■■■■ doesn’t mean he is a bad bloke.
One could argue pulling over is the best option, why let someone else upset you. I’d rather have the nutters in front anyway.

There’s only one Burns driver with flashing brake lights on his trailer and I met him in their yard yesterday so I asked him about this. He admitted to getting to Scotch corner and having to go back to Barnard Castle because he, like most, has given up knowing when the A1 is closed because they leave the signs out every day. He also admits to pulling out to see past a Howdens truck quite a few times because from the end of the dual carriageway until it widened again the truck in front was doing 60kph (37.5mph), he’s a good fella but doesn’t like hanging the job out as they’re not hourly paid but salaried plus expenses. He doesn’t know what trucknet is but I enlightened him about the post but he’s not really bothered. If you want to approach someone about their driving standards simply pull over and have a chat rather than taking the keyboard warrior approach

welshboyinspain:
If you want to approach someone about their driving standards simply pull over and have a chat rather than taking the keyboard warrior approach

+1

Is it a race or what (race to the bottom for sure), what did some of these blokes do if they came up behind a Tesco doing 38mph before?, they’d blow a bloody gasket being held up like that, how would they explain the 7 minute delay to their 12 year old planner… :unamused: sod me, i’m glad i’ve only got a few years left too.

dozy:

robroy:
Out of interest where is this park at Barlborough with all these facilities doze?

Also mate can you explain how Conor driving at 50 in a 50 zone could be described as ‘tossing it off’ …just curious how you come to this.

He’s dragging the job out , you know that and I know that ( and so did the R.burns driver) , I’m for ever comming East / west across the 66 and you can run that every day ofbthe week on the limiter without any hassle , do you think there going too do you for doing 56 in a 50 :unamused: .
If he wants to drag it out / toss it off then pull over and do it in a layby , there’s plenty too choose from

And then you’re stupid enough to wonder why your planners are running you ragged every day. It’s because of your half-witted ilk that drivers who don’t regard the job as a race are pressured by planners to do more than they can comfortably.

so come on then TNUKCSI who is telling the truth??

Was the agency god doing 37.5 mph or 50 mph?

was the burns driver a knob or just hacked off at 13 mph below the speed limit?

Olog Hai:
And then you’re stupid enough to wonder why your planners are running you ragged every day. It’s because of your half-witted ilk that drivers who don’t regard the job as a race are pressured by planners to do more than they can comfortably.

More or less says it all really. I’m on day rate but I still tootle everywhere as I won’t be rushed by anyone.

dozy:
He’s dragging the job out , you know that and I know that ( and so did the R.burns driver) , I’m for ever comming East / west across the 66 and you can run that every day ofbthe week on the limiter without any hassle , do you think there going too do you for doing 56 in a 50 :unamused: .
If he wants to drag it out / toss it off then pull over and do it in a layby , there’s plenty too choose from

I’m dragging the job out by driving at the legal limit? My god your employers have done one hell of a mind ■■ job on you. Is there nothing you’d not do to keep them happy? How many cars with kids in have you shoved up the road with your lights on and your hands on the horn because they’ve dared to do 55MPH?

I don’t give a toss whether or not you’ll get done for doing 56 in a 50. The legal limit is 50, my company expect me to drive to the law. If I do 56 in a 50 regularly I’ll find myself on the dole. Are you going to offer to replace the money I’ll lose?

dozy:
I was going too barlborough too park up for the night , I didn’t have a load on for them , and as for are all stobart drivers mugs , I don’t drive for stobarts I drive for mib , and I think a driver who wants too get somewhere where he can get a shower , hot meal , gym etc isn’t the mug , the driver who happy plodding along behind the idiot tossing it off and then ending up n a layby with no facilities is .

You could have stopped at the truckstop at the bottom of the M18. I don’t end up in a layby with no facilities because I don’t drive for a company like yours which expects you to use every last minute available. I’m given plenty of time to find somewhere to park so I don’t end up at 8hrs 59minute bricking myself the next layby comes up in 30 seconds and they’re more than happy to pay for parking in truckstops and services. I can count the number of times I’ve slept in a layby, even one with facilities, in the last 22 years on the fingers of one hand with spares.

It seems to be that you’ve never worked for a decent company and quite frankly don’t know how to do the job properly. If you don’t start slowing down a bit you’re going to have a heart attack before you’re 50.

dozy:
etc ( barlborough ) , I made it just , if I’d of followed Connor dragging the job out I’d of ended up in a layby etc with no facilities .

That is down to your own stupidity, not the fact I’m driving at the legal limit. You do know you don’t have to drive right up to the point your tacho says 9hrs driving? You could have stopped at any of several MSAs and truckstops before you got to Barlborough. Wetherby, Ferrybridge, that petrol station on the A1 north of Doncaster, The Stockyard, Trowell were all places you could have parked up at which had facilities which you would have got to with plenty of time to spare and without busting a blood vessel in rage every time someone went slightly slower than your limiter so don’t give me that crap about having to run to the last minute in order to find somewhere to stop because its bollox.

Your company are making a right mug of you and you’re too stupid to see it.

welshboyinspain:
He also admits to pulling out to see past a Howdens truck quite a few times because from the end of the dual carriageway until it widened again the truck in front was doing 60kph (37.5mph),

Trust me I wasn’t other than where the DC starts and is single carriageway for a few hundred yards as it goes up the hill but I accelerate from the sign so I’m doing 56 by the time I hit the start of the hill but I do end up at 60-70kph halfway up. Prior to that from the end of the previous DC section at Barnard Castle I’m doing 50-53MPH for the entire stretch and that entire stretch is where he kept popping his head out. Quite happy to have my tacho analysed to prove it. The only time I got that low was going uphill. I do 50MPH on the SC sections wherever the truck is able to maintain it.

Bloke is a prime example of why drivers shouldn’t be on salary/load bonus. Strange why he thought the signs should be ignored when all the matrix signs said it was closed as well.
He can continue driving like that and driving like a nob cost his company 40 miles of dead mileage fuel and made him late wiping out any of his gains from his “Hell Drivers” run. Eventually when they get sick of the fuel and repair bills and when he has a smash they’ll sack him. He’ll be in his grave from stress along with Dozy long before the rest of us.

Memo for dozy.

■■■■■■■ police use camera vans on the 66.
As well as plain clothed motors. All it takes is a quick video of you flying over the white marks. And the letters sent warning your employer of your speeding.

How do I know. We’ll I got one in 06. In a coach.

I cant believe some of you.
This is a post by DOZY you’re all getting hot under the collar about.
He’s at a wind up

Conor:

welshboyinspain:
He also admits to pulling out to see past a Howdens truck quite a few times because from the end of the dual carriageway until it widened again the truck in front was doing 60kph (37.5mph),

Trust me I wasn’t other than where the DC starts and is single carriageway for a few hundred yards as it goes up the hill but I accelerate from the sign so I’m doing 56 by the time I hit the start of the hill but I do end up at 60-70kph halfway up. Prior to that from the end of the previous DC section at Barnard Castle I’m doing 50-53MPH for the entire stretch and that entire stretch is where he kept popping his head out. Quite happy to have my tacho analysed to prove it. The only time I got that low was going uphill. I do 50MPH on the SC sections wherever the truck is able to maintain it.

Bloke is a prime example of why drivers shouldn’t be on salary/load bonus. Strange why he thought the signs should be ignored when all the matrix signs said it was closed as well.
He can continue driving like that and driving like a nob cost his company 40 miles of dead mileage fuel and made him late wiping out any of his gains from his “Hell Drivers” run. Eventually when they get sick of the fuel and repair bills and when he has a smash they’ll sack him. He’ll be in his grave from stress along with Dozy long before the rest of us.

That’s your word against his about the speed, whether you need to get your tacho analyzed just to prove a point on trucknet is a bit dramatic. I think you’re missing the point about being salaried, it means you get paid the same regardless of how much or how little you do, so no need to rush. He’s admitted he messed up by ignoring the signs as they are on daily yet the road is not always closed. It’ll be a long time before he got the sack he’s quite well up the ladder! If you had such a problem with him though you could have pulled over at the roundabout when he was stopped and told him what you thought about him rather than post it on here being the big hard keyboard warrior, he might even have found it funny about his mistake!

It’s not going well for him, is it really.

Note to Doze from the Socket.

Most of the stuff I drive is speed monitored and I guess a lot of fellas on here are the same.

Some pimply Herbert somewhere is watching us and we get notified how many times we go over. They don’t like it.

I’m sorry that you find yourself in a situation where you have to nail it every mile/minute of the day but as others have suggested you maybe partly to blame. It is unacceptable to expect a truck driver to consistently break the law on a daily basis. Something is very wrong here. Look in the mirror and practice saying “it ain’t happening, Bro”.(Your planner/handler probably wears a baseball cap back to front). Do yourself a favour :smiley:

So next time you come up against somebody maintaining the posted limit, don’t automatically think they are stupidly “dragging the job out”.

They are probably enjoying what they’re doing for a living.

Maybe you should switch employer and join the rest of us.

And you will still enjoy your facilities :smiley: :smiley:

war1974:
so come on then TNUKCSI who is telling the truth??

Was the agency god doing 37.5 mph or 50 mph?

was the burns driver a knob or just hacked off at 13 mph below the speed limit?

He’s not a knob he’s actually a nice bloke just got fed up of the truck in front and was looking to see if there was something slowing them down. We’ve all done it at some point but if my driving offended someone I’d rather they spoke to me about it than post it on the internet where I couldn’t defend myself

welshboyinspain:
I think you’re missing the point about being salaried, it means you get paid the same regardless of how much or how little you do, so no need to rush.

You’ve just posted that you get the same no matter how much or how little you do so why would you take 10hrs to do a job for £100 when you can charge around like a madman and do it in 8 and still get £100? Salary incentivises drivers for chasing themselves up their own backsides as does getting paid based on mileage or tonnage.

welshboyinspain:
He’s not a knob he’s actually a nice bloke just got fed up of the truck in front and was looking to see if there was something slowing them down. We’ve all done it at some point but if my driving offended someone I’d rather they spoke to me about it than post it on the internet where I couldn’t defend myself

I was doing 50 ■■■■■ MPH on the SC sections and was slowing down on the hills so it was ■■■■■■ obvious what was slowing me down wasn’t it? He got fed up because I was doing the limit and not sat on the limiter as he wanted to be so he could get paid the same money for doing less hours.

I would’ve spoken to him about it if I could have caught him up, I’m no shrinking violet.

If he does end up behind me again on a SC section of the A66 I’ll make sure I’m doing 60KPH for the full stretch so he can legitimately claim I was.

Oh and when you’re passing messages on tell him his stupid flashing lights are illegal.

Holy sh*t. Give me 5 mins I’ve ran out of popcorn.

What a wonderful thread. A glowing example of small ■■■■■ syndrome. One chap drives like a slug. Another driver tries to bully him out of the way. Another driver says ■■■■■■■■ to the pair of them and would overtake both because he is running out of time. Another driver suggests brake testing. Another driver turns into Hercule Poirot and locates the back door slipstreamer.

WHAT A BUNCH OF KNOBS!!!