What’s your maximum, legal length?
Star down under.:
What’s your maximum, legal length?
In the UK its a 13.6 m trailer behind an artic unit . Rigid and trailer is slightly longer I think .
EDIT
Articulated HGV 16.5m
Articulated HGV carrying containers or swap bodies up to a maximum length of 45 feet as part of an intermodal transport operation 16.65m
Articulated HGV incorporating a low loader trailer 18m
Motor vehicle drawing one trailer which is not a semi-trailer 18.75m
more info here if your really that bored on a Sunday afternoon .
Cheers Beefy, (it’s Sunday night ) for general access our max length is 19 metres. This includes 7 axle B doubles up to 50 tonne.
9 axle B doubles 26 metres 65 tonne.
12 axle type 1 road train 36.5 metres (2 trailers) 82.5 tonne.
Gross weights can vary (~5 tonne) dependent upon different operating parameters.
Type 1 road trains need up to 10’ of road width at 90~100 kph, it takes very little to start the dog swaying. B doubles follow without deviation, body and 45’ trailer have negligible sway.
The most versatile configuration is prime mover and trailer/s, as it permits the dropping of trailers and hooking up the next. A turnaround time of 15 minutes.
Looking at photos of your roads, I wouldn’t fancy driving a 26 metre truck of any configuration anywhere but a motorway.
Star down under.:
Looking at photos of your roads, I wouldn’t fancy driving a 26 metre truck of any configuration anywhere but a motorway.
Not much if any difference between UK, Germany or NZ non motorway routes.
Carryfast:
Star down under.:
Looking at photos of your roads, I wouldn’t fancy driving a 26 metre truck of any configuration anywhere but a motorway.Not much if any difference between UK, Germany or NZ non motorway routes.
You’ve never driven anything that big. Drooling over YouTube and playing childish computer games doesn’t count, or make you the slightest bit knowledgeable.
Why do you insist on proving that you live in a fantasy world, like a ten year old child?
He’s running out of steam! Was reading a bit about old fashioned insults last night and this one stood out for obvious reasons
Star down under.:
Carryfast:
Star down under.:
Looking at photos of your roads, I wouldn’t fancy driving a 26 metre truck of any configuration anywhere but a motorway.Not much if any difference between UK, Germany or NZ non motorway routes.
You’ve never driven anything that big. Drooling over YouTube and playing childish computer games doesn’t count, or make you the slightest bit knowledgeable.
Why do you insist on proving that you live in a fantasy world, like a ten year old child?
You protest laughably too much.
It’s clear who could handle that type of outfit with no problem at all even after 20 years out of the job and it obviously ain’t you.
It’s just a drawbar outfit with a proper trailer rather than a silly short type that we are forced to use here.
Which part of what I posted is ‘fantasy’ ‘computer games’.
German and NZ roads just like you’d find here on most non motorway LGV routes.It’s also a lot more practical to reverse than the Norwegian A double.
But you obviously wouldn’t know that in obviously thinking that even a rigid and trailer is too much for you to handle.Don’t judge everyone by your own standards.
The really strange thing is that you’ve said nothing about the OP advocating similar.Why the discriminatory bs directed at me.
Yup A train ( not taking about rigid and drag), B train whatever ,sometimes you have to reverse and I’m sure Star down under would agree it’s a sight easier reversing a b train than an artic pulling a trailer on a dolly .I had the pleasure of driving b trains for a living and at one stage driving a bloody A train bloody wiggle wagon. . Btrains (Canadian spec) would work on trunking on motorways in uk IMO . Jimmy
JIMBO47:
Yup A train ( not taking about rigid and drag), B train whatever ,sometimes you have to reverse and I’m sure Star down under would agree it’s a sight easier reversing a b train than an artic pulling a trailer on a dolly .I had the pleasure of driving b trains for a living and at one stage driving a bloody A train bloody wiggle wagon. . Btrains (Canadian spec) would work on trunking on motorways in uk IMO . Jimmy
Jimbo, we don’t have B trains any more. Shortly after the introduction in the 80s, there was uproar from the ignorant about the potential for massive road train type vehicles to cause death and destruction, in the suburbs. The shift in terminology to B double made the world safe again.
Similarly, when two trailer road trains were given access to restricted routes east of the Great Dividing Range, the terminology was changed to A double. An A double leaving the Port of Brisbane has to display a LONG VEHICLE sign to the rear, as far as Toowoomba. From Toowoomba west,the signs have to be ROAD TRAIN, front and rear.
I agree, B doubles/trains would be viable on motorways, but how many transport depots have an exit ramp from motorways?
I notice that the UK/Europe spec trailers have a shorter wheelbase than ours, for a given length trailer. An A trailer is in the region of 40’ long, with the tri at the rear and the turntable mounted above the middle axle. I doubt an A trailer would work with the overhang that is ubiquitous in UK/Euro.
Carryfast:
It’s clear who could handle that type of outfit with no problem at all even after 20 years out of the job and it obviously ain’t you.
Says the long retired night trunker, the least taxing job in industry when it comes to driving, forwards or backwards
Carryfast:
Don’t judge everyone by your own standards.
This is a bit hilarious
Highly original comment about ditches coming in 3…2…1…
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
It’s clear who could handle that type of outfit with no problem at all even after 20 years out of the job and it obviously ain’t you.Says the long retired night trunker, the least taxing job in industry when it comes to driving, forwards or backwards
Carryfast:
Don’t judge everyone by your own standards.This is a bit hilarious
Highly original comment about ditches coming in 3…2…1…
Yep absolutely no thought or planning or skill required to reverse an A frame drawbar outfit through a slalom course or reversing the trailer under a demount box from a 90 degree turn.
But no problem putting an artic in a ditch certainly won’t get you put onto the UPS drawbar induction and test.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
It’s clear who could handle that type of outfit with no problem at all even after 20 years out of the job and it obviously ain’t you.Says the long retired alleged night trunker, the least taxing job in industry when it comes to driving, forwards or backwards
Carryfast:
Don’t judge everyone by your own standards.This is a bit hilarious
Highly original comment about ditches coming in 3…2…1…
Fixed that for you Switchman.
Star down under.:
Fixed that for you Switchman.
Not unless you’re saying that I’ve stolen a UPS Feeder Driver’s identity.In which case they obviously would have said something about that by now.
Switchlogic seems to be good at video opportunities if anyone could sort out a demo with an LHV he could.Just a phone call to Scania from him should do it.
Then we’ll see who’s an alleged driver or not bearing in mind the longer trailer just makes it easier.
But he can do the Norwegian A train reverse slalom demo only two points of articulation is far too easy for him.
Carryfast:
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But no problem putting an artic in a ditch certainly won’t get you put onto the UPS drawbar induction and test.
Yes, I dream of the day I get headhunted by the glorious kings of the road UPS to have the great honour of driving their flat top CFs*. Unlikely to be blessed with such greatness tho so I must settle for my mediocre career. We can but dream (while pulling UPS trailers internationally in an FH16)
*DAF not the other
Carryfast:
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Yep absolutely no thought or planning or skill required to reverse an A frame drawbar outfit through a slalom course or reversing the trailer under a demount box from a 90 degree turn.
Blimey, you reversed round a bend? I bow down to your greatness
A train No no never again….
Carryfast:
Star down under.:
Fixed that for you Switchman.Not unless you’re saying that I’ve stolen a UPS Feeder Driver’s identity.In which case they obviously would have said something about that by now.
Switchlogic seems to be good at video opportunities if anyone could sort out a demo with an LHV he could.Just a phone call to Scania from him should do it.
Then we’ll see who’s an alleged driver or not bearing in mind the longer trailer just makes it easier.
But he can do the Norwegian A train reverse slalom demo only two points of articulation is far too easy for him.
We only have you word that you even hold a truck licence and we know how sloppy you are with truth and facts. Your alleged employment, in a previous eon, is more than possibly a figment of your overactive imagination.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
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But no problem putting an artic in a ditch certainly won’t get you put onto the UPS drawbar induction and test.Yes, I dream of the day I get headhunted by the glorious kings of the road UPS to have the great honour of driving their flat top CFs*. Unlikely to be blessed with such greatness tho so I must settle for my mediocre career. We can but dream (while pulling UPS trailers internationally in an FH16)
*DAF not the other
If you want to drive and more importantly reverse either of those LHV options their drawbar familiarisation and test will be very useful in finding out if you meet the grade.Although probably ignore that in the case of the artic A double outfit.
That just ain’t going to reverse through any slalom course or under any demount box.Although I’d bet that I could get closer to trying it it than you or our Australian interloper.
switchlogic:
Blimey, you reversed round a bend
It’s not a coach or an artic.
As you’ll see the A double is an art form just to reverse in a straight line and I think I could manage it never having even driven one at all.
youtube.com/watch?v=BSnAjgr1QJU