Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.
Are these the same scared drivers who can’t hack agency work and throw all their toys and dummies out when they’re required to handball some parcels to the back of the trailer?
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
It looks like your selective memory issues have struck again.You’re the one who mentioned the ego word first.So exactly what did you mean and why would you have any interest in, or be advocating LHV’s in that case ?.
It was also obviously you who mentioned the ‘beneath’ word.
Why would you even think that when the issue is clearly too much crap work in the industry precisely because of the inefficiencies imposed by length and weight limits and road fuel taxation, deliberately making the decent work ever more economically unviable for operators to do.viewtopic.php?f=2&t=168472&start=30#p2750703
It’s obvious that what you’re all about is just like your Euro artic history. LHV’s would be good for the face fits elite which you perceive yourself to be.
But 7.5t or class 3 work is good enough for others calling them egotists if they complain.All on the basis of a laughably hypocritical do as I say not as I do regime to maintain that situation.I meant what I said, that people obsessed with driving bigger trucks are usually compensating for something. Made no comment about anything but them, not about bigger trucks, not about drivers that aren’t them, not about myself, just their obsession because I’ve met many, but as usual you’ve created an entire fake meaning in your head which leads me to my next point…
Carryfast:
face fits elite which you perceive yourself to be.Are. You. F*****. Kidding. Me. How the actual f**** have you come to that conclusion. How many times over how many months over how many comments have I clearly and straightforwardly pointed out again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again that I’m nothing of the sort, that I’m an average driver that has had lots of jobs and I’ve pointed out to you so so so so many times anyone could have done it, even you and you’ve just constructed this elite nonsense to make up for your own failings. The ‘elite’ is a total fiction made in that crazy brain of yours. How I can perceive myself to be something I don’t think exists is a bit baffling. FFS you didn’t use to be this bad at understanding things.
Carryfast:
looks like your selective memory issues have struck againSays the professional liar.
For future reference as you seem confused- if you see me mentioning being an elite driver guess what? I’m taking the pee out of your stupid idea, not actually thinking I am one. Though you’ll no doubt intentionally misunderstand and lie again. It’s. A. ■■■■. Take.
But you obviously think that you’re judge and jury as to whether any driver is supposedly ‘obsessed’ with driving the biggest vehicle as opposed to what other reason in your view exactly.Obviously selectively applying to yourself ?.
As I said it’s all about the work.
Generally bigger means more opportunities and chance to get on decent distance work.
You should know because a larger heavier truck means more economies of scale to take more stuff further for a given fuel and driver cost.Unfortunately for the career opportunities of Brit drivers the rail lobby knows it.
So how in your view would you explain a preference for driving any type of vehicle on distance work than driving a Terex tipper in a quarry all day for the rest of your career.
It’s all about the work not the truck and a larger truck is just a tool that in most cases provides the best quality of work and truck drivers generally do the job for the freedom of the open road to go places the further the better.Also not for the privilege of driving an artic 2 hours up the road and then spending most of the shift as a warehouse labourer hand balling it’s bleedin load on and off it, among other class 3 type zb local work. 
Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.
Reality distortion field in full effect yet again
Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.
I wouldn’t be “scared” to drive one but I wouldn’t clamour for their introduction because they would simply depress wage levels for HGV drivers, of which I am one. Pulling twice as many trailers requires half as many drivers. It’s hardly rocket science.
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.I wouldn’t be “scared” to drive one but I wouldn’t clamour for their introduction because they would simply depress wage levels for HGV drivers, of which I am one. Pulling twice as many trailers requires half as many drivers. It’s hardly rocket science.
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.
So why did you want a class 1 licence when you could obviously have limited your licence to class 3 and earn more for driving a 16/18 tonner ?.The fact is increasing efficiency increases demand for services and makes distance work more viable.So how many four wheelers did you drive around Europe Harry ?.
Realistically there’s no way that anyone is going to operate an artic A double outfit here anyway.
But an NZ drawbar type regime would work fine just like it works there and throughout Scandinavia.
DCPCFML:
Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.Are these the same scared drivers who can’t hack agency work and throw all their toys and dummies out when they’re required to handball some parcels to the back of the trailer?
Yeah right the ability to handle a drawbar outfit doing box and trailer swaps is directly proportional to the willingness to work as building site or warehouse labourer.
Are you a manager by any chance.
Does that look like ‘hand balling some parcels to the back of the zb trailer’.Yeah right the 8 ft less makes all the difference in your blind view of the world.
Ironically that’s not a driver unlike in my case.Don’t forget I had to do it all again in reverse loading the one I was taking back after tipping the one I’d brought in.
Carryfasts latest hard on generating topic I see.
Carryfast:
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.So why did you want a class 1 licence when you could obviously have limited your licence to class 3 and earn more for driving a 16/18 tonner ?.The fact is increasing efficiency increases demand for services and makes distance work more viable.
Have you rally spent a lifetime in road transport without realising that artics and rigids are designed for different types of work?
Carryfast:
Don’t forget I had to do it all again in reverse loading the one I was taking back after tipping the one I’d brought in.
Well that’s what happens when you’re the bosses yes man
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.So why did you want a class 1 licence when you could obviously have limited your licence to class 3 and earn more for driving a 16/18 tonner ?.The fact is increasing efficiency increases demand for services and makes distance work more viable.
Have you rally spent a lifetime in road transport without realising that artics and rigids are designed for different types of work?
Well, a third of a lifetime, at best. He was only a driver 5 minutes in the grand scheme of things. Being a yes man he was as much a warehouse worker as driver.
Carryfast:
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.
Carryfast and logic in same post is something of an oxymoron
Carryfast:
But you obviously think that you’re judge and jury
No, why would I think that exactly? Just expressed my opinion which you have tried your very best to twist and mangle to fit your freakish twisted view of me. It’s all just opinions. You put a great emphasis on your opinions and think they’re important, I don’t on mine and know they aren’t.
Carryfast:
Also not for the privilege of driving an artic 2 hours up the road and then spending most of the shift as a warehouse labourer hand balling it’s bleedin load on and off it, among other class 3 type zb local work.
Well, you were a yes man so I suppose it was inevitable
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.So why did you want a class 1 licence when you could obviously have limited your licence to class 3 and earn more for driving a 16/18 tonner ?.The fact is increasing efficiency increases demand for services and makes distance work more viable.
Have you rally spent a lifetime in road transport without realising that artics and rigids are designed for different types of work?
Define different.You’re saying that more capacity supresses wages.So why doesn’t your logic work the same for 4 wheelers v artics if its true.So an artic curtainsider v a four wheeler curtainsider.What’s the difference other than the artic has more load deck space and weight capacity.You’re saying that extra capacity of the artic is a bad thing putting four wheeler drivers out of work right ?.
Oh wait what it’s actually doing is opening up a new sector for class 1 drivers that would never have been there.The same applies by coupling up a drawbar trailer to the 4 wheeler.
Now suddenly it’s economically viable to take on work that wouldn’t have existed before.
While by your logic the drawbar or artic driver would actually earn less than the four wheeler driver and would generally only be covering similar distances.
Yeah right.So why did you want the class 1 Harry why not stay with class 3 you didn’t answer the question ?.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
But you obviously think that you’re judge and juryNo, why would I think that exactly? Just expressed my opinion which you have tried your very best to twist and mangle to fit your freakish twisted view of me. It’s all just opinions. You put a great emphasis on your opinions and think they’re important, I don’t on mine and know they aren’t.
Carryfast:
Also not for the privilege of driving an artic 2 hours up the road and then spending most of the shift as a warehouse labourer hand balling it’s bleedin load on and off it, among other class 3 type zb local work.Well, you were a yes man so I suppose it was inevitable
You’re the one who said that driving artics let alone an LHV is an egotistical thing.
But then you say it’s not when it suits you and obviously not for yourself only for others.
So ending up on a disciplinary for refusing to carry out a management instruction is also your idea of a yes man.
Keep digging.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Surely the same logic goes for 18 tonners v artics.Carryfast and logic in same post is something of an oxymoron
Obviously a lot more logical and less of an oxymoron than saying that anyone who chooses to drive an artic instead of a 7.5 tonner is doing it for egotistical reasons.While at the same time advocating artic A double outfits.
Then you seem to be agreeing with Harry that they are actually a bad thing and that smaller really does = better for trucks.
Make your mind up what are you actually saying.
Carryfast:
DCPCFML:
Carryfast:
What I’m seeing is drivers who are scared to drive anything with more than one point of articulation and trying to hide it with bs.Are these the same scared drivers who can’t hack agency work and throw all their toys and dummies out when they’re required to handball some parcels to the back of the trailer?
Yeah right the ability to handle a drawbar outfit doing box and trailer swaps is directly proportional to the willingness to work as building site or warehouse labourer.
Are you a manager by any chance.
Does that look like ‘hand balling some parcels to the back of the zb trailer’.Yeah right the 8 ft less makes all the difference in your blind view of the world.
Ironically that’s not a driver unlike in my case.Don’t forget I had to do it all again in reverse loading the one I was taking back after tipping the one I’d brought in.
What a drama queen. I see the error in your username. Instead of Carryfast it should be Carry[zb]all.
peterm:
If they (the bosses) want longer artics, why not B doubles like here in Oz? Oh no, I’ve probably wound CF up now.
But do you know the difference between an A or B Double? or a truck that can pull 2 45 trailers at 90t here legally in OZ?
CF will come and shoot you down silly man lol
Without Carryfast, Trucknet would be one boring place, I’m loving this Eastenders/Emmerdale or Coronation Street drama between Mr Switch, this is prime time entertainment at its best.
Carryfast quoted Boris for the decorations in his PM pad and got paid top dollar for supplies he bought cheap at Homebase and B&Q .
Carryfast:
Obviously a lot more logical and less of an oxymoron than saying that anyone who chooses to drive an artic instead of a 7.5 tonner is doing it for egotistical reasons.
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Just as well I didn’t say or mean that then isn’t it. Just another lie
Carryfast:
Make your mind up what are you actually saying
That’s hilarious coming from you