The eu referendum- how do you intend to vote?

del trotter:

Carryfast:

del trotter:
No, your discussing with yourself whatever agenda you feel you want to push, what you really don’t like is when people point out the errors in your blinkered view.

Seeing as only Poland is the only eastern european nation that employ more people in direct automotive manufacturing than the UK your argument about jobs disappearing to eastern Europe doesn’t stack up.

infantile really. :unamused:

No you’re the one with the obvious federalist agenda here.We’re discussing net jobs lost to the ‘EU’ not just Poland. :unamused:

And you’ve been shown time and time again that your facts are wrong, you seem to be blaming the EU for globalisation yet would expect US corporations to be queuing up to come here if the UK left, however you cannot accept when globalisation means some corporations feel it is more profitable to leave the UK, its the world we live in, get used to it.

Yeah right ‘globalisation’ that just happened to involve the transfer of jobs to the EU from the time we joined it.In addition to the fact that Germans or French don’t by British.Thereby turning a trade surplus into trade deficit

While you do realise why the US manufacturers ‘queued up’ to come here to start with.IE protectionist policies that said if it’s sold here it’s made here.Which is a sensible position bearing in mind the alternative. :unamused:

Although that doesn’t change the basic argument.Which is a bunch of Federalists wanting to sign their country over to Juncker.All because they don’t do the idea of the nation state and using bs economic arguments as an excuse for it. :imp:

Carryfast:
In addition to the fact that Germans or French don’t by British.

Of course they don’t. :unamused:
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del trotter:

Carryfast:
In addition to the fact that Germans or French don’t by British.

Of course they don’t. :unamused:
ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-bec9 … z4C8rE4PZ1

worldsrichestcountries.com/t … ports.html

What a surprise you conveniently ( selectively ) left out imports.

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Leave. I care more about voting on this than any other vote I’ve ever done.

Everyone I know is voting Leave too. I can’t believe remain will win.

Carryfast:

del trotter:

Carryfast:
In addition to the fact that Germans or French don’t by British.

Of course they don’t. :unamused:
ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-bec9 … z4C8rE4PZ1

worldsrichestcountries.com/t … ports.html

What a surprise you conveniently ( selectively ) left out imports.

worldsrichestcountries.com/t … ports.html

So on Planet Carryfast trade should only be a one way street to the advantage of the UK? Grow up.

I’m still undecided. Some days I sway one way and some days I sway the other if I’ve read something in particular.

One things for sure if we vote to remain, there won’t be anymore U.K. deals/clauses to keep us happy we’ll get royally shafted from here on in.

George Osborne is on lbc right now saying they have no plans for brexit. What a responsible government we have in power :open_mouth: :unamused:

del trotter:

Carryfast:

del trotter:

Carryfast:
In addition to the fact that Germans or French don’t by British.

Of course they don’t. :unamused:
ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-bec9 … z4C8rE4PZ1

worldsrichestcountries.com/t … ports.html

What a surprise you conveniently ( selectively ) left out imports.

worldsrichestcountries.com/t … ports.html

So on Planet Carryfast trade should only be a one way street to the advantage of the UK? Grow up.

On planet EU it should all be one way trade to benefit the EU especially Germany you mean.So as not to upset your EU Federal government friends.

No surprise that you’d try to dress up a call for ‘trade balance’ instead of deficit as supposed ‘one way trade’.Although just as expected from anyone wanting to sell out their own country because they view the EU Federation as their ‘country’.On that note you did note the actual figures.

OVLOV JAY:
George Osborne is on lbc right now saying they have no plans for brexit. What a responsible government we have in power :open_mouth: :unamused:

You need to realise that everything they do and say is based on what their EU masters want them to do and say.IE the definition of Federal government means local implementation of foreign federal rule.

merc0447:
I’m still undecided. Some days I sway one way and some days I sway the other if I’ve read something in particular.

One things for sure if we vote to remain, there won’t be anymore U.K. deals/clauses to keep us happy we’ll get royally shafted from here on in.

Let me guess in 30-40 years time you’d be one of those saying you thought you were only voting for a common market not a USE. :unamused:

Sounds familiar…
youtu.be/1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

OVLOV JAY:
Sounds familiar…
youtu.be/1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

Best Prime Minister we never had.I’m still here though speaking for him hopefully. :frowning:

Heath’s face is a picture - such arrogance and contempt!

Carryfast:

OVLOV JAY:
Sounds familiar…
youtu.be/1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

Best Prime Minister we never had.I’m still here though speaking for him hopefully. :frowning:

It’s funny how both left and right wing politics have changed since those days. Listen to that, and then the tripe Corbyn is spouting on sky, and they’re both supposed to be from the same political stance

Munchkin, I do drive a JCB if that makes matters better…
…Although they’re a bag of ■■■■, I’d rather go for a Cat or a Case.
:stuck_out_tongue: :laughing:

OVLOV JAY:

Carryfast:

OVLOV JAY:
Sounds familiar…
youtu.be/1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

Best Prime Minister we never had.I’m still here though speaking for him hopefully. :frowning:

It’s funny how both left and right wing politics have changed since those days. Listen to that, and then the tripe Corbyn is spouting on sky, and they’re both supposed to be from the same political stance

No there’s no connection.Shore was a Nationalist not a Socialist he just didn’t realise it,just as I didn’t at the time.It’s also why Wilson,Callaghan and Jenkins etc made sure to consign his career to the wilderness just like the Cons did with Powell. :bulb:

You’ll note the confusion and contradiction between Heffer trying to reconcile his obvious Nationalist belief here with Socialist ideology and not surprisingly contradicting himself in the process.The fact is Socialism always abhors the idea of the Nation State and National Sovereignty and the two can’t be reconciled you have to choose one or the other.To their great credit Shore and Heffer both put country over Socialist ideology thereby both effectively ending their careers. :frowning:

youtube.com/watch?v=K1R3TgChPsU

3.27-3.57

Stanley Knife:
Heath’s face is a picture - such arrogance and contempt!

He gave Jimmy Saville an OBE. I wonder why.

Found this (a joke?), on another forum…

A pretty little girl named Suzy was sitting on the pavement in front of her home.
Next to her was a basket containing a number of tiny creatures; in her hand was a sign announcing “FREE KITTENS.”

Suddenly a line of big cars pulled up beside her. Out of the lead car stepped a grinning man. “Hi there little girl, I’m the leader of the Conservative Party, David Cameron, what do you have in the basket?” he asked.
“Kittens,” little Suzy said.
“How old are they?” asked Mr Cameron.
Suzy replied, “They’re so young, their eyes aren’t even open yet.”
“And what kind of kittens are they?”
“They’re REMAIN IN THE EU supporters,” answered Suzy with a sweet smile.
Mr Cameron was delighted, a golden opportunity beckoned.

As soon as he returned to his car, he called his PR chief and told him about the little girl and the kittens. Recognizing the perfect photo op, the three of them agreed that they should return the next day; and in front of the assembled media, have the girl talk about her discerning kittens.
So the next day, Suzy was again on the pavement with her basket of “FREE KITTENS,” when Cameron’s motorcade pulled up, this time followed by vans from BBC, ITV, Channels 4, Channels 5, CNN and Sky News, cameras and the audio equipment were quickly set up, then Cameron got out of his limo and walked over to little Suzy.

“Hello, again,” he said, “I’d love it if you would tell all my friends out there what kind of kittens you’re giving away.”
“Yes sir,” Suzy said. “They’re BREXIT supporters.”
Taken by surprise, David Cameron stammered, “But yesterday, you told me they were REMAIN IN THE EU SUPPORTERS.”
Little Suzy smiled and said, “I know. But today, they have their eyes open.

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facebook.com/theguardian/vi … 380116323/ There are some really hateful people(BG doctor message).